NBA legends discuss LeBrons legacy, Kobe says LeBron has no excuses, needs to be a better leader

[Professor Emeritus]

Kobe is just as bad as his stans, no wonder where they get it from

All the other panelists were being logical then Kobe comes in sounding like a damn Coli poster.

Talking about how Lebron needs to "trust his teammates more" when Kobe's the one who feuded with Shaq and stopped taking shots in a game in 2003 to "prove a point", gave up and stopped trying on both ends in Game 7 in 2006 to "prove a point", demanded a trade from the Lakers if they didn't get him better teammates, shytted on Smush and Kwame every chance he got, talked shyt about Bynum, and consistently took 25 shots and game while dominating the ball down the stretch without letting his teammates get any shine at all.

 

[FreshandClean]

What?

Is this some alternate universe where kobe didn’t win 5 rings?

Kobe led the lakers to the best record in the West for 3 straight years. How did he and gasol not win? Are you retarted sir?

My nikka ...please read the og comment again you obviously misunderstood something

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

SHE SAID NO!!!!!!!!!!

 

[High quality poster]

My nikka ...please read the og comment again you obviously misunderstood something

This margarita got me seeing double. Aiight I get that. But Lebron is still playing with a team far more talented and in a weaker conference than Kobe did post Shaq before gasol.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

I wish someone would have the balls to finally say that Bron actually makes teammates worse, not better. Biggest myth in NBA history right there.

Really so when did MJ and Kobe take a trash team to the finals? I’ll wait!

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Jeff Green and JR would be in China if it wasn't for Lebron.

Real talk... Cats forget that NY gave JR Smith and Shump away for literally nothing.... JR Smith was on his way out of the league until he secured that Bron influenced deal in 2016

 

[Reece]

Lebron was beating the breaks off kobe With inferior teams though

IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

The same Regular Season that the Raptors went #1 in the East.

Those Cleveland Cavs also went #1 IIRC before being knocked out twice

Kobe could have mailed in the series if he wanted. Gasol, Odom and Bynum would have been too much for Cleveland's front court.

 

[MVike28]

Kobe’s delusion is hilarious to watch.

Breh said just figure it out

This nikka asked to be traded twice, complained he had zero help in the post Shaq and pre Gasol years.

Not to mention there is no world where he can ever be considered better than Bron.

But keep talking.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

The only year Smush was a relevant NBA player was the one year he averaged 11ppg playing with Kobe.....

You mean playing for Phil?

 

[GreatestLaker]

Kobe's comments make little to no sense. When Kobe's teams faced greater teams he always lost. Whether is was against the Spurs, Celtics Thunder etc. Its a TEAM SPORT. Same way Kobe with Lamar, Kwame, Luke and Smush isn't beating the Suns featuring 3 all-stars. This current Cavs team with Lebron ain't beating this Warriors team. This dude forgot why he demanded to be traded in 07?

 

[ELESDEE616]

OT:

Have any of y'all read Kobe's interview with police after they pulled him in. shyts hilarious. You can hear how entitled his surbaban ass was. He really thought he had that Cac pass. "I like to cum on their faces, that's my thing"

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Lamar was the only Laker worth a shyt on the team aside from Kobe. Walton was a decent role player in the regular season, but he wasn't ready for the playoffs(much like Clarkson).

Walton wasn't ready for the playoffs? You're just making up shyt.

Walton had 19 points and 6 boards in Game 1, then went for 17 and 10 in Game 3, and finished with a 16 and 6 in Game 7. His other games weren't as good but 12-6-2 on 46% shooting (36% from three) wasn't bad for a 4th option. And he hit a shot or at least free throws in the clutch in the final 3 minutes of each one of the first three games.

Kwame wasn't a bad role player in that matchup either - he was able to take advantage of Phoenix's lack of size and averaged 13 and 7 on 53% shooting.

And as you admit Odom was a force through the series.

On defense, the combination of length and movement that Smush-Kobe-Luke-Odom-Kwame had really limited Phoenix for a while. The defense they played on the Suns for those first three games was as good as anyone had done all year.

It's sort of dumb only to use a post-season sample size to answer this question, especially since the Lakers had a sample size of one series.

Using statistics only also isn't reflective of contributions. Thompson's stats are ass, but he was helpful against the Celtics and made an impact there. Korver was dreadful in the finals, but he was a big part of every other series, again, in particular, the Celtics.

Lebron's teammates were terrible against Indiana, Boston, AND Golden State. Their averages actually look better than they should due to the Toronto games.

Korver was a big part "in particular" against the Celtics? Come on man, Korver scored 14 in the 30-point blowout in Game 3, they were winning that one with or without him. Take out that game and he averaged 8ppg on 38% shooting against Boston. And that's all he did, he wasn't distributing the ball or rebounding or playing lockdown defense or nothing else.

When a player averaging 8ppg on 38% shooting is your example of a teammate coming up "particularly" big, then you KNOW there's a problem.

 

[10bandz]

OT:

Have any of y'all read Kobe's interview with police after they pulled him in. shyts hilarious. You can hear how entitled his surbaban ass was. He really thought he had that Cac pass. "I like to cum on their faces, that's my thing"

this pathetic cac is obsessed with the kobe rape shyt

 

[10bandz]

Kobe's comments make little to no sense. When Kobe's teams faced greater teams he always lost. Whether is was against the Spurs, Celtics Thunder etc. Its a TEAM SPORT. Same way Kobe with Lamar, Kwame, Luke and Smush isn't beating the Suns featuring 3 all-stars. This current Cavs team with Lebron ain't beating this Warriors team. This dude forgot why he demanded to be traded in 07?

2010 Boston was a greater team than the Lakers squad....and he was a winning record vs TD

Kobe also never got his "help" traded in midseason for trash, but hey, keep ignoring that

And when he demanded a trade it was because they weren't keeping their promise. He was going to go to the Clippers in 04 before Jerry Buss changed his mind last minute and JB promised he'd rebuild the team around him. Kobe got a little impatient but the Jkidd for Bynum trade is what set him off, and for good reason. They should've traded for Kidd. Either way Kobe just wanted them to make a move which they ended up doing shortly after.

Oh yeah when Kobe came back from demanding a trade, he had the Lakers in 1st place by midseason BEFORE they traded for Gasol. So he didn't exactly come back to the team and lay down......he worked with what he had and the team was overachieving even before the Pau trade.....but y'all dont wanna talk about that

 

[itsyoung!!]

Chauncey Billups: I'm not charging LeBron for some of those losses in the Finals. He wasn't the favorite every time. He's rarely the favorite in the Finals. So how can you expect him to really win? It's the NBA Finals. It's the two best teams in the world.

stopped reading here.

One of the issues with the NBA play offs is that 1 conference is so much better than the other conference that rarely is it the actual 2 best teams in the nba finals (and its why you have so many sweeps or non close series)