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Because Giannis is their best rim protector, that's why.


And Wiggins was 3-13 the next time he played them.

And as you astutely pointed out Giannis rarely guards him.

My point here wasn't Wiggins scoring 31 on the Bucks in one game. My point was that in the few instances I saw Giannis try to guard Wiggins, Andrew was able to get by him with ease. When Wiggins played Kawhi, it was almost unfair. Kawhi made Wiggins look like he didn't even know how to play basketball. He humiliated him repeatedly when they were matched up. He ripped him play after play. And Wiggins was unable to get any good looks.

Giannis is not a bad defender. He's elite as a rim protector and is pretty good on the perimeter. But he's not as good as Kawhi. That is what my initial post was about. The gap between Kawhi and Giannis as defenders is pretty vast right now.
 

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And as you astutely pointed out Giannis rarely guards him.

My point here wasn't Wiggins scoring 31 on the Bucks in one game. My point was that in the few instances I saw Giannis try to guard Wiggins, Andrew was able to get by him with ease. When Wiggins played Kawhi, it was almost unfair. Kawhi made Wiggins look like he didn't even know how to play basketball. He humiliated him repeatedly when they were matched up. He ripped him play after play. And Wiggins was unable to get any good looks.

Giannis is not a bad defender. He's elite as a rim protector and is pretty good on the perimeter. But he's not as good as Kawhi. That is what my initial post was about. The gap between Kawhi and Giannis as defenders is pretty vast right now.

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You can't be serious with this, you can't bring up how Wiggins did in game 1 then say Giannis "rarely guards him" when it's pointed out that Wiggins stunk it up in game 2. Giannis was on him just as much in game 2 as he was in game 1.
 

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Bradley missed too many games for my liking (if he didn't, he would be deserving of having his name on one of those teams), the real snub here is Marcus Smart. He played the second-most total minutes for the Celtics (behind IT2), would often guard the best backcourt threat (often IT2's opposite), acted as a great help defender and lockdown defender simultaneously, and was his team's one-size-fits-all defensive cork - guarding 1-4 regularly - sometimes even 5s, and even forcing himself to guard multiple positions on the same damn play. He's basically the guard version of Draymond Green.


If he can get his shot more consistent, he's an all star 2 way player in the making. He drives fans crazy with some of his antics and shot selection, but be makes so many winning basketball plays its hard to ignore.
 

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Yeah, Kawhi definitely made it on reputation this season (still doesn't take away from him being arguably the best wing defender in the game), still not the worst selection, but it just adds to the shame how more effective defenders who have greater defensive workloads don't get recognition.

Agreed. He definitely is the best defender when he puts his mind to it and goes for it, but Giannis showed up more consistently this season as Leonard took up a bigger offensive role.
 

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Whiteside, Avery should be on the list. Cp3 and Danny Green suck and are non factors to me
 
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You can't be serious with this, you can't bring up how Wiggins did in game 1 then say Giannis "rarely guards him" when it's pointed out that Wiggins stunk it up in game 2. Giannis was on him just as much in game 2 as he was in game 1.

I brought up how Wiggins got by him with ease off the dribble and was able to get easy shots at the rim when he was defended by Giannis. I never mentioned he scored 31 points. I'll go back and watch the second game. I don't remember what happened but its possible Wiggins was able to again get by Giannis easily when they were matched up but this time only missed shots he typically makes.

My main point in this thread though was about Kawhi vs. Giannis. I just remember watching last year how HELPLESS Wiggins looked against Kawhi. Nobody else last year made him look quite that helpless. And it definitely wasn't Giannis who the few times he guarded Wiggins was quickly taken advantage of.
 

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I peeped it they ain't wanna name ANY players from the East but Greek freak.
Chris Paul over John Wall or Bradley?
Anthony Davis over Whiteside?
fukk going on?:gucci:
 

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Chris Paul :francis:

Teflon Don strikes again. It's disgusting/hilarious how overated he is.

Bradley and indeed Smart as @Gil Scott-Heroin said should def be somewhere on these lists. And how is AD in and not Whiteside? TBH didn't watch that many Pelicans games but hard to understand how Whiteside isn't in there.
 

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Steve Kyler admitted that he didn't vote Draymond for either team because of the kicking stuff from last season.

It obviously didn't affect Draymond in the end but if the NBA is going to be giving players contract incentives based on these awards, they need to start holding voters accountable.
 

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Breh no other player in the league would be getting 30mpg shooting 35 percent just shows you how important smart is


If he can get his shot more consistent, he's an all star 2 way player in the making. He drives fans crazy with some of his antics and shot selection, but be makes so many winning basketball plays its hard to ignore.
 
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