NASCAR banning the flag will change the GOP forever. Coalitions are shifting. US social market future…GOP Freedom Caucus floats corp tax increase!!

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Nah, all this is just the more centrist Republican establishment trying to regain control of hte party. These rabid racists will go back to the fringes where theyve always been and Romney/Boehner types will go back to juelzing when they say racist shyt
 

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They have a floor of 40% already. That’s not a small party.

I will fully flesh out the argument later but these realignments will affect Dem party as well.

What indicators have you seen of a good amount of Republicans being open to increasing the social safety net?

They will start seeking alliances with hardcore Bernie voters that hate the Dems and are willing to sacrifice social/cultural issues so long as they’re able to test out their economic theories

You lost me here. How many Bernie supporters would you put under this category?

I don't think these 2 segments of voters form a viable party. What I think is more feasible, is that the Republican party sheds it's racist, xenophobic "fringe", and returns to being the conservative party. Fiscal responsibility, social conservatism, anti immigration, pro-life. A party some of our milquetoast posters on here can get behind :smugfavre:
 

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The Maga/Tea Party base will still be a factor. They are the base and if Trump loses there will be a perception that the party elites did a stab behind the back by abandoning Trump. So I can see a Tea Party 2.0 wave that is gonna be even more radical. This is why I won’t be surprised if Tom Cotton becomes the nominee is a tough primary in 2024. The GOP elites may want to change but their base is getting more and more radical. Hell wouldn’t be surprised if there is a split.
Tom Cotton is legit the biggest nightmare we could possibly face in the future. A true dystopian, white supremacist, polished fukkhead. Does not have, even close, the kind of appeal/personality cult kind of presence Trump has, but he, like Paul Ryan was high fiving about corporate welfare at Frat keggers, Cotton probably has a legit, quiet, supervillain backstory, either that or they will Homelander him one. This fukking piece of shyt just oozes hate and white supremacy.
 

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Nah, all this is just the more centrist Republican establishment trying to regain control of hte party. These rabid racists will go back to the fringes where theyve always been and Romney/Boehner types will go back to juelzing when they say racist shyt
There’s going to be some kind of pushback by the fringe that engulfs the moderate wing.

Fox News, right wing radio, and Russia didn’t do all this to default back to the old stalemate.

Trump just got out of control but he is where they were heading
 

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There’s going to be some kind of pushback by the fringe that engulfs the moderate wing.

Fox News, right wing radio, and Russia didn’t do all this to default back to the old stalemate.

Trump just got out of control but he is where they were heading

Night of the Short Tiki Torches
 

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Truthfully there was very little market for the social conservative and libertarian economics theory, the base and center-right elites just swallowed it because of fears of socialism. The union I think was always tenuous, liberals vs anti liberals, and it still didn't fully work out due to the fact the left still gained control of pop culture. The GOP will rebound quickly and move towards ditching the white working class for high-income Asians and Hispanics, the way the Democrats left them behind from 1967-1980. We might see a nationalist party with your planks though.

I think the upper-class conservatives are tired of apologizing for their beliefs because of the way not just trump supporters, but tea partiers and Gingrich, Reagan democrats, Dixiecrats act in public. There is a limit. I also see white families breaking apart over this. A lot of white kids are sick of this behaviour as well.

Not sure if you identify with these ideas or are just relaying them.

Because it's some bullshyt :stopitslime:

Upper class conservatives are tired of apologizing for their beliefs... What beliefs?

The ideology of I got mines, fukk you? :mjpls:

The ideology of corporations are citizens too? :troll:

There ain't no belief system on that side, they didn't eat up Reaganomics and war hawkishness out of a fear of socialism it's because there is no academic legitimacy to conservativism and these batshyt economic theories give it a veneer.
 

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Tom Cotton is legit the biggest nightmare we could possibly face in the future. A true dystopian, white supremacist, polished fukkhead. Does not have, even close, the kind of appeal/personality cult kind of presence Trump has, but he, like Paul Ryan was high fiving about corporate welfare at Frat keggers, Cotton probably has a legit, quiet, supervillain backstory, either that or they will Homelander him one. This fukking piece of shyt just oozes hate and white supremacy.

He is. Plus he is focused, young, ans polished with his words.
 
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