Albums Nas - The Lost Tapes 2 (Discussion Thread)

[Big Mark]

SD is an album that has a rewritten history about it. When it dropped. It was prolly one of Nas’ most critically acclaimed albums. And yes. If it was one disc it wouldve been better and we wouldnt even be having this discussion. Especially if the tracks that didnt make the album.
Keep these songs listed right here
Message To The Feds
Nazareth Savage
These Are Our Heroes
Disciple
Sekou Story
Live Now
Just A Moment
Reason
Virgo
Remember The Times
War
Thief’s Theme

Then add Serious ft AZ, Good Morning, and Foul Breeze. shyt wouldve been one of his best albums.

Bridging the Gap was kind of a hit so I’d keep that and You Know My Style but I’d definitely add Foul Breeze, Good Morning and Serious. I would also add Talk of NY.

 

[NoHalfWay]

Stillmatic

Your The Man (Extended)
Never Gonna Give it Up
The Flyest (w/Bravehearts)

God's Son

High
My Will
Two Seater

I thought High was recorded around 1998

 

[HNIC973]

Nasir is his worst album by far even though 7 songs.The best songs on HHID SD Nastradamus destroy anything on Nasir

 

[spliz]

That's interesting. When did that shift happen and would you happen to know why?

I think after this is when the whole “weak beats” argument started gaining legs and people were unfairly shytting on Salaam Remi. This is when he was working with him heavy and people were obsessed with him linking back up with Premo etc etc. Then a narrative started happening where everything Salaam touched was wack and this album was basically retroactively hated. This is also the album where Nas went with “weird” singles like Bridging The Gap instead of shyt like “Know My Style”. He did have “Just A Moment” but this is basically the start of Nas not giving a fukk about “hits” per se. He started doing the opposite of what anyone else was doing in the industry.

 

[spliz]

Bridging the Gap was kind of a hit so I’d keep that and You Know My Style but I’d definitely add Foul Breeze, Good Morning and Serious. I would also add Talk of NY.

Yea I was gonna add You Know My Style as well. Forgot to.

 

[Ziggiy]

So who decides Nas final tracklist before it's pressed and released to the public? I think Nas catch a lot of heat for leaving his best work off the album but I don't think he decides his final tracklist

Nas executive produces most of his albums, so more than likely he and Anthony Selah and whatever A&R is assigned to work with him chose the tracklisting

 

[Ziggiy]

I think after this is when the whole “weak beats” argument started gaining legs and people were unfairly shytting on Salaam Remi. This is when he was working with him heavy and people were obsessed with him linking back up with Premo etc etc. Then a narrative started happening where everything Salaam touched was wack and this album was basically retroactively hated. This is also the album where Nas went with “weird” singles like Bridging The Gap instead of shyt like “Know My Style”. He did have “Just A Moment” but this is basically the start of Nas not giving a fukk about “hits” per se. He started doing the opposite of what anyone else was doing in the industry.

There was nothing “weird” about Bridging The Gap as a single. I fukking love that song it
Makes me think about my pops (RIP). This is the same man who made I Can a hit single.


Your right about people retroactively hating on SD. It was critically acclaimed when it dropped. The hate started when The Source (who still had relevance around this time) only awarded it a 3.5/5 Mics. Then the floodgates opened on Nas being this terrible beat picker and Salaam Remi somehow being the downfall of the album (when if you check the credits Salaam has some of the best songs on both discs)

Also people don’t know that SD was slated to be a triple album, but Sony wouldn’t let Nas release it as such at the last minute. Thats why songs like Talk Of NY, Serious, Good Morning, and Get Up didn’t make the album because they were from the scrapped third disc

 

[theflyest]

Lost Tapes is my favorite Nas project, so I’m looking forward to this, as a lot of his unreleased material is superior to his official releases IMO.

 

[spliz]

There was nothing “weird” about Bridging The Gap as a single. I fukking love that song it
Makes me think about my pops (RIP). This is the same man who made I Can a hit single.


Your right about people retroactively hating on SD. It was critically acclaimed when it dropped. The hate started when The Source (who still had relevance around this time) only awarded it a 3.5/5 Mics. Then the floodgates opened on Nas being this terrible beat picker and Salaam Remi somehow being the downfall of the album (when if you check the credits Salaam has some of the best songs on both discs)

Also people don’t know that SD was slated to be a triple album, but Sony wouldn’t let Nas release it as such at the last minute. Thats why songs like Talk Of NY, Serious, Good Morning, and Get Up didn’t make the album because they were from the scrapped third disc

Im not saying “Bridging The Gap” was a weird song. I said it was a weird single. “You Know My Style” was hot on mixtapes n all that. But he chose the opposite. It was a weird single because it was almost like he chose the opposite of what people wanted to be the next single. And “I Can” was far more accessible than “Bridging The Gap”. I knew that shyt was gonna be a single before it became one because the streets was bumping it heavy. shyt was bumping out mad whips before it was a single. shyt. The nikka coulda even made “Virgo” a single cause nikkas was fukkin wit that too.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I think after this is when the whole “weak beats” argument started gaining legs and people were unfairly shytting on Salaam Remi. This is when he was working with him heavy and people were obsessed with him linking back up with Premo etc etc. Then a narrative started happening where everything Salaam touched was wack and this album was basically retroactively hated. This is also the album where Nas went with “weird” singles like Bridging The Gap instead of shyt like “Know My Style”. He did have “Just A Moment” but this is basically the start of Nas not giving a fukk about “hits” per se. He started doing the opposite of what anyone else was doing in the industry.

Meh...it got some nice reviews. But did rap fans like the album? Not really breh. Weak, melodramatic beats and lots of forgettable tracks. I thought a lot of the Salaam tracks were fine, especially the title track (which has a breakbeat and Nas kills it). But to release this album a year after The Black Album was just a bad look to me. A year after Hov gave everyone an album with near flawless production and bangers, we got a double album of slow drums and forgettable beats full of LES and Chucky Thompson tracks....nah.

 

[Ziggiy]

Im not saying “Bridging The Gap” was a weird song. I said it was a weird single. “You Know My Style” was hot on mixtapes n all that. But he chose the opposite. It was a weird single because it was almost like he chose the opposite of what people wanted to be the next single. And “I Can” was far more accessible than “Bridging The Gap”. I knew that shyt was gonna be a single before it became one because the streets was bumping it heavy. shyt was bumping out mad whips before it was a single. shyt. The nikka coulda even made “Virgo” a single cause nikkas was fukkin wit that too.

As I recall they shot videos for Virgo, UBR, and These Are Our Heroes. UBR and These Are Our Heroes leaked but Virgo never did

 

[spliz]

Meh...it got some nice reviews. But did rap fans like the album? Not really breh. Weak, melodramatic beats and lots of forgettable tracks. I thought a lot of the Salaam tracks were fine, especially the title track (which has a breakbeat and Nas kills it). But to release this album a year after The Black Album was just a bad look to me. A year after Hov gave everyone an album with near flawless production and bangers, we got a double album of slow drums and forgettable beats full of LES and Chucky Thompson tracks....nah.

A double album of slow drums? Fam do u even be listening to the albums u be talkin bout because u be wrong as shyt. And rap fans did fukk with the album. Everyone I played it for at the time or that I knew had it liked it. There was songs they didnt like on it because like it said. It coulda been trimmed down. But there was alotta dope shyt on it. If that “Nazareth Savage” beat was given to Jadakiss or somethin the shyt woulda been called a straight banger. Album was no more melodramatic than his other albums. Matter fact Nas was pretty happy on the shyt. Also SD >>> BP2.

 

[MikeStamina]

Nah I fukks with Nasir hard. Not a classic though. Solid 4 Mics which is amazing considering the circumstances of its conception.


Nasir is better than both Streets Disciple (which is underrated as well) and Nastradamus so its FAR from his worst album.

I think you just lost ya ever loving mind. Comparing Nasir to SD. The title track alone belongs in a hip hop museum of how to MC. FACT!

Mr Z, imma need you to apologize to SD asap for making such an outlandish silly comment

 

[MikeStamina]

So who decides Nas final tracklist before it's pressed and released to the public? I think Nas catch a lot of heat for leaving his best work off the album but I don't think he decides his final tracklist

NOBODY decides their tracklist. Always some form of teamwork. Between the artist side n label side

 

[ThirdAct]

Rest of my Life from SD is another underrated one, that shyt is too smooth

Also Remember the Times is the funniest Nas song ever, that shyt is hilarious...plus that beat