Nas - NASIR (Discussion Thread)

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I liked it, gonna continue to keep listening. The production is actually pretty good for 2018 Kanye standards.

Like others have said, it is too short. 3 more quality songs added to this would make this a better album.
 

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Rapmastermind’s “NaSIR” Review:

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“Welfare, it’s dark and there’s not help here. Killer Cops shooting Black Kids to instill Fear” – NaS


Not For Radio – 5 MICS
Cop Shot The Kid – 5 MICS
White Label – 4 MICS
Bonjour – 4 MICS
Everything – 4 MICS
Adam & Eve – 5 MICS
Simple Things – 4 MICS

Lyrics/Content/Themes – 4.5 MICS
Performance – 4 MICS
Production/Samples – 4.5 MICS
Features – 4 MICS

Overall Mic Average: 4.36 MICS


Well, I’ve gotten several messages for my opinion on this. I gave it a solid full week spin to really soak in the entire album bar for bar, beat for beat. Last Thurs Night Stream was a mess in the beginning, but it was good to see everyone out there in Queensbridge showing love. Wish I could be there but out of town for Father’s Day weekend, so I missed it. Anyways…..I enjoyed the listening party but I held back judgement on the non-mix/mastered version. Then Jay had it on Tidal and I heard the completed version and I was impressed. Going in I wasn’t concerned about the 7 songs because NaS has two great short albums with “ILLmatic” and “The Lost Tapes” both about 10 songs. After playing it straight through several times, I realized this album is a natural progression of Ye and NaS’s collaborations. Yes Ye and Jay have had a stronger bond musically but NaS and Ye do have a long history. I posted the full track listing history pages back showing how this year is the 20th Anniversary of their 1st Collaboration. So…the singing, mellow pace and even laid-back production didn’t really bother me. Also, NaS has always used singers and R&B hooks his entire career. Loved the cover and the symbolism of showing Black Children with their hands up at such a young age. They were 80's babies too. NaS was young in the 80's so I'm not shocked because he always reps the 80's ("Child of the 80's, Y'all N#ggas is Lazy"). I also feel the cover was a reflection of not just NaS looking at his past as a young black man in America. It was also the fact now his own son Knight is the around the age of the kids on the cover. It's just a deep cover. Here’s my song by song breakdown.

“Not For Radio” is essentially the sequel to “Hate Me Now”. That track remains one of the most popular singles of NaS’s career. When NaS originally wrote the song, he said he was trying to make a record like Puff and Big's "Victory” which sampled Bill Conti’s “Rocky” Score. Well he goes and gets Puff Daddy again to bring those Epic Sh!t Talkin Adlibs. Puff was talking wild sh!t on this. Even used some “Life After Death” adlibs. The Sample was Flawless. I really enjoy when rappers use Orchestras or Movie Scores and loop it right. NaS also sampled Legendary Composer John Williams on the "STILLmatic" track “Every Ghetto”. This song comes from Legendary Composer Basil Poledourius score from the 90’s Classic film “Hunt for the Red October”. It starred Sean Connery and Alec Balwin and was the first film about Tom Clancy’s “Jack Ryan” Character. Just like “Hate Me Now” (Which was from Composer Carl Orff's Classic "Carmina Burana")......Using the Basil sample gives the track a very epic feel. The original “Hate Me Now” had a choir sample on the intro and hook but because of sample issues they changed it on the album version.


Well I wasn’t surprised by choir on this one to tie it all together. NaS gets philosophical and conspiratorial lyrically on the track but it will make you think for sure. Puff was just wild, I did love the last line though, (You Lucky God Made us forgiving and compassionate). So True Puff….preach. The hook was straight by 040 Shake, I do like her voice. She killed it on Pusha’s “Santeria” too. Starting the song “Escobar Season Begins” was great. NaS had tried to distance himself from his “Escobar” Persona in the past (Remember the “Death of Escobar” Mixtape) but fans always call him “Esco” so he’s embraced it as years have gone on (Thus giving us that heat rock "Esco Let's Go"). “Escobar Season” has become a fan slogan for all NaS’s album releases since “I Am”. So…by opening the album like that was definitely a shout out to the fans. I was cool with the slow flow on this because it was like he had conquered and triumphed. A King walking towards his throne. Nice way to set off the album. Next comes the song “Cops Shot The Kid”. The title was originally called “Cops” but I like the change. This song feels like a spiritual sequel to “Cops Keep Firing” which was featured on “The N!gger Tape” by NaS and Green Lateran which came out during “Untitled”. That track NaS talked about the constant struggles Black People have with police. The song looped a Jay Z Sample throughout. Of course with everything going on the song couldn't be more relevant as a new shootings of Black People of many different ages continuously pop up.


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(Puff Daddy reunites with NaS for Epic "Hate Me Now" Sequel)


Well this time, a Classic Slick Rick Sample is used from “Children’s Story’. Ye isolates the sample and loops it through the song while also distorting the vocals. The song begins with a Classic Richard Pryor Standup talking about Police Brutality. NaS has a long history of discussing Police Brutality, Violence and Misconduct through his career. On this song he holds nothing back talking about the clear bias against Black Citizens of America when it comes to Law Enforcement. To everyone’s surprise Ye actually featured on the track. His verse was dope too, reminded me of “College Dropout” Ye which had strong Afrocentric themes. For the record, I have my own issues with Ye’s antics over the last years and recent months. Some say he was trolling for attention, others say this was some crazy elaborate marketing scheme for controversy. Honestly, none of that matters to me because he was wrong period and disrespectful. With that said it’s clear he’s going through psychological issues, he was heavily medicated and he’s clearly dealing with a medical condition. These albums seemed like a form of Therapy for Ye. I did like how Ye and Cudi both opened up on Mental Illness on their albums which is a problem in the Black Community and needs to be spoken about. But Ye had no excuse, his Dad was a Black Panther and Activist and his Mom was an English Professor. He knows the history as he’s rapped about it in the past. I believe NaS was working on this album before the outburst and social media meltdowns. I’m sure they had personal conversations and worked through any issues about what happen. The beat bumps hard and sounds like it could of came out in the 90’s.

“White Label” is just some Hip Hop sh!t. I like the title change because Ye was really digging in those crates to find this one for sure. (White Label is a reference to promo vinyl records). The sample was fire and NaS uses a unique flow on this. But the way this was chopped was just off the chain and was definitely “Old Ye” here. “Bonjour” was some grown man fly sh!t. Tony Williams just has a really smooth vocal. The beat was cool too. “Everything” definitely felt more like a Ye record but I though NaS did good on this with his verses. The Dream just has an amazing voice and Ye sounds pretty good without to much heavy autotune. He needs to have more confidence in his vocal. Sure the intro was little long but it’s a good song. I liked the themes of mistakes, growth and righting wrongs. “Adam & Eve” was fire top to bottom. The sample, hook, beat, lyrics. It was just sick. That piano loop was just dope. The Dream killed that, he sounded like a folk singer from the 60’s and 70’s. To the point you almost thought that was the sample. This might have been the “7 Deadly Sins” track as NaS raps about his sexual escapades. (Just like he did on “Remember the Times” on “Streets Disciple” which also had a sick sample too). The last track “Simple Things” was another track that felt more like Ye but NaS did good on it, ended the album on a mellow note.


Overall…I pretty much liked every song and thought NaS and Ye matched up pretty good on this. It really was a cohisive body of work. As for the Kelis Drama, I personally feel NaS didn’t really need to get into on this album. They’ve been broken up for about Decade and he already addressed the relationship on “Life is Good” years ago. Kelis remarried and had another child so there’s another man involved with her now. So…for me personally, timing seems interesting with the whole situation. Especially with them going through a custody and legal battle. But I’m fully aware, NaS isn’t perfect as he’s rapped about his transgressions in the past but that doesn’t mean I’m just going to take any allegation as fact. So again NaS didn’t need to say anything because it can and will be used against him. Sure….there were a few subliminals but they were light and you can’t even say he was talking about her for sure. Kelis decided to make the issue public and took it to a media blog. NaS isn’t taking that route. Any Music Reviewers that are using Kelis to give this album a bad review isn’t judging the music for what it is. They are being obtuse and unrealistic about NaS’s legal situation. NaS basically was in a lose-lose situation after the Kelis interview. If he said something on the album, they would have picked it apart. He said nothing and look, they are picking it apart. So he did the right thing imo. He should speak on it when he’s ready and wants too. There’s always multiple sides to every situation. Again Kelis made this a media issue when they were having a private court matter, NaS did not. Mind you she said in the past on camera and I quote, “I would never talk bad about my Son’s Father in Public".


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(Like throughout his career, NaS tackles Police Brutality and Racism on "NaSIR")

In the end I’m happy, NaS continues to grow and evolve. Also this wasn’t NaS’s “4:44” though that was a great LP for Jay. In all fairness as I said when Jay's album came out last year, NaS been on this “Grown Man” Hip Hop Wave. For the last 15 years since “God’s Son”, "Street's Disciple", "Untitled", "Distant Relative" and "Life Is Good". “NaSIR” continues this with more themes of racism, police brutality, relationships, reflection, wealth and business life etc. I’m Happy NaS and Jay are releasing music like this though dealing issues that grown men deal with. He has nothing to prove sales wise, chart wise or success wise, NaS isn't in these new rappers lane, he's in a Legendary lane. He's charting 28 years after his debut verse. That's like Three Decades of music. (But But NaS isn’t relevant, Nobody listens to NaS, Nobody likes NaS beats), LOL. You guys are running out of excuses, the Man is a Hip Hop Legend. I also appreciate the 7-song thing because they did it for the art. My only beef, there wasn’t a vintage storytelling track. NaS did have stories mixed into the verses though. Also, it was probably the most laid back NaS album but again that’s more about Ye’s style.

I know some of us heads would of loved a 7 track Premo LP or RZA LP or even Havoc LP since they've all produced Classic beats for NaS. Who knows, maybe it could happen one day. Especially when NaS moving forward with his Mass Appeal Label. We all know he recorded a lot of music over these last 6 years. I think this is the advantage of a “Non-Filler” album. It had ZERO Fat. I don’t have to skip anything. I just play the album as if it’s a 26-minute song. In the 60’s 70’s and 80’s many Classic albums under 10 songs dropped. “Thriller and Control” by Michael and Janet both only had 9 songs and both are considered two of the greatest albums of all time. Prince’s “Purple Rain” only had 9 songs is considered one of the greatest soundtracks ever. Shoot, Issac Hayes released the Legendary R&B Soul LP “Hot Buttered Soul”. It only had 4 SONGS and they were all Classic. So much so it’s one of the most sampled albums from Issac Hayes (NaS sampled it on the “Life is Good”). My point? Short albums can and have delivered. So props to Ye, this 4 LP run was pretty strong. Each album has it's own identity, mood and distictive styles. As for Singles? There's really is no "Club" type song on this but “Cop shot the Kid” needs a video, could be Epic. Go and Get Ricky to be in it. “Everything” could be good for radio because obviously Ye and Dream on it. “Adam & Eve” and “Bonjour” has potential and would love NaS and Puff to do a video for “Not for Radio”.

So for me it's a Strong 4 MICS could see it possibly getting a bump up to 4.5 eventually because it’s a very easy brisk listen so I think that will help replay value. Also NaS bars are always a breathe of fresh air in an era not as concerned with lyricism.. I’m happy NaS is content with his career and where he is. He will be making music for himself and the fans in these future years. That's why he said he's not for Top 40 or doesn't care about your criticisms of his production because he knows he has support. He echoed this on "Testify" ("F*ck Ya'll Little Hoe B*tches, I don't need ya'll I'll go Gold Wit it") NaS is who he is now, can we please stop asking for “ILLmatic 400”. He gave us a sequel basically with “STILLmatic” almost 20 years ago and said, “But it’s always forward I’m moving, never backwards stupid here’s another Classic”, A 10th Anniversary Version with 2 new songs and remixes, a 20th Anniversary Version with all the Single B-Sides and Remixes and just this year, a full Live Orchestra Version from Washington DC. If NaS had made a “ILLmatic” Saga, some of ya’ll would still be criticizing and hating saying “ILLmatic 5 isn’t seeing the original”, lol. He doesn’t have to make his Magnum Opus again to make some of yall happy. Definitely one of his most personal albums which is why it got his government name “NaSIR”. Thank You NaS for once again breathing life into this Hip Hop Embryo.


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"That’s what happens when you make shyt that’s timeless
That’s what happens these rappers is the pioneers
What do it take to be a legend like Nas is?" - YE
 
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