Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)

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Are you saying what I think you're saying?
Bro I'm lost but this seems intriguing.
What's the breakdown?
 

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Not only Havoc. A few classics spawned from that beat.





Al also did Win Or Lose.

Alchemist Top 10 man…how could he not be? Too much fire and classic ish, and the tenure is crazy. Hitboy might be Top 25 tho…specially after all these Nas joints straight
 

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Bro I'm lost but this seems intriguing.
What's the breakdown?
I think he's implying Hitboy isn't involved with the album? Idk the guy is hard to read, he's always posting like he's off his meds.

I like Magic better than KD3 for the most part, but KD3 and KD2 have something Magic doesn't have, which is dope concept joints and more fleshed out songwriting ideas. It just depends on the day I guess. Sonically Magic is just more my flavor though, and most of my favorite verses from his Hitboy run are on that album.
 

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Like my bro @spliz Magic is damn near like Illmatic in the sense that I can throw it on for nonstop burst of dope Nas raps over dope beats.

I think KD3 has 0 skippables, but it's a bit longer for better and for worse.

Gun to my head:

KD3: 5/5 , the most impressive album they've made.
Magic: 5/5 , pure piff
KDII: 4/5, a bit too long and a few songs don't do much for me anymore.
KD: 4/5, a bit more consistent than II but it doesn't reach the highs of it either.

You can tell that both Nas and Hit got better and sharper with each project - Magic and KD3 really reaching the highest levels.
 

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I personally always wanted a Havoc-produced Nas album, before Preme and even Alc. Imagine how that shyt would come out if they’re both in pocket and vibing, 🥹😲. Nigs love each other, don’t know why they haven’t made it happen
 

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Like my bro @spliz Magic is damn near like Illmatic in the sense that I can throw it on for nonstop burst of dope Nas raps over dope beats.

I think KD3 has 0 skippables, but it's a bit longer for better and for worse.

Gun to my head:

KD3: 5/5 , the most impressive album they've made.
Magic: 5/5 , pure piff
KDII: 4/5, a bit too long and a few songs don't do much for me anymore.
KD: 4/5, a bit more consistent than II but it doesn't reach the highs of it either.

You can tell that both Nas and Hit got better and sharper with each project - Magic and KD3 really reaching the highest levels.
I've actually gone back to KD1 and like it a lot more now than I did then. I found it a bit simple at the time, but I can appreciate a more laidback "easy listening" type Nas album at this point
 

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Alchemist Top 10 man…how could he not be? Too much fire and classic ish, and the tenure is crazy. Hitboy might be Top 25 tho…specially after all these Nas joints straight

Alc is like my #12 right now, HB probably close to #20 off top.
I've actually gone back to KD1 and like it a lot more now than I did then. I found it a bit simple at the time, but I can appreciate a more laidback "easy listening" type Nas album at this point
I agree. It's the most accessable and nearly as consistent as III and Magic.

II has shyt like Death Row East and Store Run and Lauryn etc tho, can't go wrong either way which is why I rank them the same.

All Bad and the Firm song are def on my imaginary Nas/HB compilation joint.
 

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Hit Boy was huge before working with Nas. People just downplayed the work like most everything that's commercial or mainstream on here. Hate it or love it, "In Paris" was EVERYWHERE. There's also "Clique". He did Lil Wayne's "Drop The World" featuring Eminem and Kendrick Lamar's "Backseat Freestyle". "Somewhere In America" for Jay Z. He also did "Flawless" and "Sorry" for Beyonce. I'm not saying he was a top tier producer on the strength of those songs, but he wasn't some bum either.

Verzuz changed his career IMO, because since the Verzuz against Boi-1da, he was doing full albums. He premiered "Blue Benz" on that Verzuz, which is where we first found out Nas was dropping some brand new music.
 

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I personally always wanted a Havoc-produced Nas album, before Preme and even Alc. Imagine how that shyt would come out if they’re both in pocket and vibing, 🥹😲. Nigs love each other, don’t know why they haven’t made it happen
Havoc has talked about this, when him and Nas link up they usually just end up hanging out instead of making music and they don't want to ruin that.

Totally agree though, outside of a (90's)Rza album - Havoc is my dream collab album for Nas. They could still make it happen, dedicate it to Will...Killah Black...All the fallen QB dudes and of course my #3 GOAT Prodigy.
 

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Hit Boy was huge before working with Nas. People just downplayed the work like most everything that's commercial or mainstream on here. Hate it or love it, "In Paris" was EVERYWHERE. There's also "Clique". He did Lil Wayne's "Drop The World" featuring Eminem and Kendrick Lamar's "Backseat Freestyle". "Somewhere In America" for Jay Z. He also did "Flawless" and "Sorry" for Beyonce. I'm not saying he was a top tier producer on the strength of those songs, but he wasn't some bum either.

Verzuz changed his career IMO, because since the Verzuz against Boi-1da, he was doing full albums. He premiered "Blue Benz" on that Verzuz, which is where we first found out Nas was dropping some brand new music.
Hit Boy did those joints. But didn’t get the appreciation he deserved for them. shyt it’s part of the reason him and Kanye fell out. Cause Kanye was fronting on him tagging his beats n shyt. And he lost out on a lot of money and recognition for it.
 
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