I’m not going to derail This thread with Alchemist nonsense.
Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)
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FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
nikka does present day Nas have albums or songs that anyone outside of the Tri-State give a fukk about?Are these albums or songs that anyone outside of the tri state have a fukk about?
And I know the rebutall will be "But he's selling out concerts!"
But here's the thing that you guys ingore time and time again, and the point that 21 Savage poorly articulated: Nas is a legacy artist. In terms of current day relevancy, he's in the same playing field as the guys that Alc works with, but the difference in he has 30 years worth of fan goodwill and nostalgia that keeps him in circulation no matter what. These concerts he's selling out are sold on Nas the brand far more than King's Disease.
I was at Nas' King's Disease Trilogy concert in MSG...and I'd wager 60% of the concert was his 90s classics and it's what got the strongest engagement from the crowd. Y'all talk about being stuck in the 90s and shyt, but the entire idea of being a Nas fan in 2023 is inherently stuck in the 90s. People are gonna always say "We want Premo!" and such because that's the Nas work that's made the strongest impression on the vast majority of his fans and why they still listen to him to this day. shyt even the teenager I sat behind that was there with his parents was way more geeked to see The World Is Yours and One Mic and Life's a bytch performed live than any of his Hit-Boy stuff
shyt look at me. I was born in 1992. I was 2 when Illmatic came out. 4 for It Was Written. And spoiler alert: Street's Disciple and Hip-Hop is dead weren't what made me become a Nas stan, it was the shyt that he did when I was in diapers that I listened to a decade later. Those are his enduring works that keeps his overall brand strong today, even if his current music is only reaching his diehards.
Y'all not dealing in reality sometimes.
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"nobody outside the Coli rocks to these albums" "23k sold"
still got double digit plagues on the wall
These nikkas don't be outside or interact with people. Nas had youngsters reciting his shyt when we went to the Raleigh NC show
You mean the Swizz Beatz The Source ranked as one of the top 20 greatest producers? The Swizz Beatz that pre-insanity Kanye West called “The Greatest Producer Of All Time” ? The Swizz Beatz who produced a classic hit single for DMX at the age of 16? The Swizz Beatz whose career spans over two decades with at least one top ten produced single within those decades?
THAT Swizz Beatz!?!!?!
Piff Perkins
Veteran
He's one of the greatest producers of all time, and all the top tier producers recognize it publicly. And Nas is his favorite rapper. Saying you want to hear Nas work with a top 10 level producer again is not a diss to Hit Boy. And I'm someone who isn't really that big on the "Nas should work with Alch" wave given the differences in their styles recently. But come on brehs.
HNIC973
R.I.P Bandana P
Both sides talking bullshyt you don't have to shyt on ALC to big up HB & vice versa or Premo
HNIC973
R.I.P Bandana P
When I'm 50 years old, I wanna have 50-year old fans
60-year old fans and 16-year old fans
Slim Charles
All Star
Who gives a fukk about all this? If Nas fan base was just 30 brehs on the Coli (I expect a joke that this is the case) And he still made music for us to bump . That’s all good to me. I don’t listen to Nas or anyone to impress others. Or care if some 16 year old kid who likes drill knows Nas.
If these other factors concern someone regarding an artist. Not sure they’re listening to the music they like for the right reasons
If these other factors concern someone regarding an artist. Not sure they’re listening to the music they like for the right reasons
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
You mean the Swizz Beatz that a lot of people, especially here, think is trash?
When I said B+ producer, that was in terms of capablities, not star-level, which should've been obvious
I'm on the record I'll take a Premier or Alc album in a heartbeat
But the moment he do a project with Alchemist just watch, dudes gonna complain about they don't want that drumless arthouse Alc they want boom bap 2001 Alc
Or like the Premier track that dropped last year and it was silence from them saying he need to work with Premier. That "Tide" joint from the Hit-Boy album earlier this year literally passed the stream count for the Premier joint in a week. I ain't putting everyone in this bucket but most these dudes that complain the loudest about Hit don't buy albums, don't stream albums and don't go to shows
But the moment he do a project with Alchemist just watch, dudes gonna complain about they don't want that drumless arthouse Alc they want boom bap 2001 Alc
Or like the Premier track that dropped last year and it was silence from them saying he need to work with Premier. That "Tide" joint from the Hit-Boy album earlier this year literally passed the stream count for the Premier joint in a week. I ain't putting everyone in this bucket but most these dudes that complain the loudest about Hit don't buy albums, don't stream albums and don't go to shows
