Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)

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Really surprised he didn’t have a video ready and some merch bundles ready to go.

If the CD and Vinyl weren’t on preorder and he paired it with one of the T-shirts they’d be selling like HOTCAKES and the bundles plus views from a video would easily get him to 50-55K first week. The album is already number 1 on iTunes just off word of mouth and number 3 on Apple Music.
This the dumb shyt I'm talking about where the fukk is the one fukking chart??:dead:
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Maybe I am truly:flabbynsick::flabbynsick::flabbynsick:
 

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I agree this is the weakest album they've done. It's not bad by any means. The highs - specifically Slow It Down and Motion - are really high. The frustrating thing is it feels kind of rushed at times and that's where the flaws shine through. Some more time in the lab and this could have been a great album IMO. Office Hours being the first offender. I get not wanting to ask someone to redo a verse but man...that 50 verse kills the song for me. I was hyped for it. He's busy as fukk, I'd imagine they couldn't get in the studio together but man...waiting to get that track right would have been worth this album taking a month longer to come out. Or putting him on another track. I've seen some 50 stans say the track doesn't really fit him. He would have been 100% at home on Bokeem Woodbine lol.

You can also hear the rushing in some of the vocal punching and at times it's just jarring to the point I'm like eh...should have just recorded that again instead of saying "that's good on to the next track." You really hear it on Slow It Down, a track I still really like but man. That's not the only one though, just the most frustrating. Few tracks I don't rock with too. Black Magic needed more...wave. Like you need ASAP or a southern rapper on that to do it justice. Earvin Magic Johnson is a miss for me too, with Nas behind the beat. Which is weird because flow wise he's on point on most of the trap shyt here, especially Abracadabra.

Other thing that throws me off...I like the production overall but at times Hit Boy sounds like beatmaker, making shyt that a Kanye type producer will produce/complete. Some of the sample pack stuff really stands out in his beats, where you can tell it's from "Sample Horns 26" or "Sample Guitar 11." Or he'll play the keys and I just wish they'd bring some people in for that. Feel like (2003-2016) Kanye or someone would bring in someone to play that shyt and take it to another level.

Flip side the beats that hit really hit (no pun intended). Slow It Down might be a top 5 beat on the KD/Magic albums for me, and the best song on the album IMO. More (real) samples on here too which is always dope. Bokeem Woodbine sounds like some shyt Biggie would rap over today, and that initial rhyme pattern (snub nose/Columbos/etc), felt like a homage to him).
 
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Ehhhh
I don't believe The artist himself is polarizing.
Too much success for that

But there's something to him being expected to carry the cross for REAL HIP HOP

Whatever tf that means

A burden his peers are allowed to escape


Supposed “real” hip hop fans don’t even like the shyt they PROCLAIM is real lmao or else Lost Tapes 2, Michael, Krs One’s album from last year, and Skyzoo’s All The Brilliant Things would be platinum albums and Break Beats with Premo and Nas would be a platinum single.

fukk outta here with that “real” Hip Hop shyt. So many artists have made good faith efforts in taking it back to the “essence” only to flop. Joey Badass put out a FANTASTIC album produced by Statik Selectah (a son of modern day Boom Bap if ever there was one) last year and it only sold about 20K first week. Just WHERE in Carmen Sandiego’s muthafukking WORLD are all of these “Real” Hip Hop fans?!?! Are they all broke? Can’t afford $9.99 for an iTunes download or too busy to stream an album a few times on their preloaded streaming platform?

Seems to ME that “real” Hip Hop fans only show up when its time to complain
 

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Can’t believe folks in frontin on Earvin Magic Johnson. That joint is dope.
Earvin Magic Johnson is a miss for me too, with Nas behind the beat. Which is weird because flow wise he's on point on most of the trap shyt here, especially Abracadabra.
breh you trippin, Nas was floating on that beat. He caught the bounce perfectly.
 

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It was my mistake coming into this expecting it to be similar to Magic 1, which is my favorite of the HB run. Listening again today, in headphones instead of IEMs, and putting aside my preconceptions, really liking the album now.

Black Magic hits a lot different in the headphones, I'm surprised how much I like it. Really like that and Earvin Magic Johnson, tracks that aren't the usual Nas sound. He went in on Motion, which gives me a Queens Story vibe. What This All Really Means, Slow Motion (my favorite right now), and Pistols On Your Album Cover is a strong three song closing. And the 21 song actually fits perfectly. Even if I don't care for it too much, I can understand making it a bonus.

I'm just glad to be in a timeline where Nas is still making music at this ridiculous pace.
 
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