Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

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I don’t understand what is weak about Nasir? The beats were dope, he was spitting, had different vibes, that shyt is kind of my fave Nas albums. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone when I hear cats shytting on that album.

Nothing about that album was dope. Nas sounded very uncomfortable and lifeless on all of those tracks and the whole shyt just sounded uninspired. Nas flows and bars on that album were not on point at all. He has rapped over way worse beats and sounded much nicer than he did on that unfinished project.

Especially after hearing how dope and polished the production on Pusha T project with Kanye was, Nasir was a huuuge letdown.
 
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Going forward... I honestly dont know if I want Nas to do another album without HitBoy.. shyt just too perfect.

Why try to fix something that aint broke?

Time to close the casket on thoughts of our fav 90s producers working with Nas. They all made history.. you cant recreate that shyt tho..


Going by that logic, why create another album with Hit Boy?

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Nothing about that album was dope. Nas sounded very uncomfortable and lifeless on all of those tracks and the whole shyt just sounded uninspired. Nas flows and bars on that album were not on point at all. He has rapped over way worse beats and sounded much nicer than he did on that unfinished project.

Especially after hearing how dope and polished the production on Pusha T project with Kanye was, Nasir was a huuuge letdown.

I respect your opinion but disagree. Y’all acting like Nas was spitting Cat in the Hat nursery rhymes. White label, simple things, not 4 radio, everything, Adam and Eve, that’s weak spitting? ….the smooth vibe on bonjour? I could see if he was was coming with tracks like owe me or Nastradamus or something.
 

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Going forward... I honestly dont know if I want Nas to do another album without HitBoy.. shyt just too perfect.

Why try to fix something that aint broke?

Time to close the casket on thoughts of our fav 90s producers working with Nas. They all made history.. you cant recreate that shyt tho..

This.

Unless its songs that are complete that didn't make an album for an installment of Lost Tapes, it doesn't really bother me if Nas isn't working with one of my favorite producers from the 90's. I still want to hear whatever he has in the vaults of what he did with Timbo, Alchemist, Havoc, Premo, Large Professor, and Large Professor, but pretty much don't have a wishlist of producers I would like to hear Nas work with. He and Hitboy are having an incredible run and have become one of those dynamic MC/producer duos.
 

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I respect your opinion but disagree. Y’all acting like Nas was spitting Cat in the Hat nursery rhymes. White label, simple things, not 4 radio, everything, Adam and Eve, that’s weak spitting? ….the smooth vibe on bonjour? I could see if he was was coming with tracks like owe me or Nastradamus or something.

What I liked about Nasir:

Adam & Eve- this was vintage Nas

Bonjour- this was dope

White Label- also dope

Out of the 7 songs, these are the only ones that I revisit.

"Not For Radio" and "Everything" are over done. I didn't really feel "Cops Shot The Kid" or "Simple Things" like that. It didn't help that Kanye just basically had Nas spitting over two beats from some underground artist's album and lifted the album cover from the same album.

For me, the overall feel of Nasir was like a nice blend tape where Kanye just threw some previously unreleased Nas vocals over some beats.
 
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I like Nasir. Its a solid 4 Mic album and I like it even more considering that Nas only had 7 days to get it done.


But this ain’t the Nasir thread. No point in drudging it up over and over as the overwhelming consensus is that KD1 and KD2 are superior offerings. Lyrically I don’t see in any way how Nas fell off or phoned it in to the point where KD1 felt like such a surprise. But sonically KD1 is better and KD2? Forget about it. KD2 is legitimately Nas’s best PRODUCED album since Life Is Good
 
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This.

Unless its songs that are complete that didn't make an album for an installment of Lost Tapes, it doesn't really bother me if Nas isn't working with one of my favorite producers from the 90's. I still want to hear whatever he has in the vaults of what he did with Timbo, Alchemist, Havoc, Premo, Large Professor, and Large Professor, but pretty much don't have a wishlist of producers I would like to hear Nas work with. He and Hitboy are having an incredible run and have become one of those dynamic MC/producer duos.


Pretty much my thoughts on the matter. What other producer is literally CRAFTING a cohesive sound from SCRATCH for Nas the way Hit Boy is? Hit is taking bits of what we’ve always wanted to hear Nas spit over from Pete Rock, Just Blaze, Justice League, No ID, Large Pro, etc. the ONLY sound I haven’t heard him emulate as of yet is Premier.
 

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I just ran them back to back, my view is that Nasir was just undercooked. Nas actually sounded more comfortable on KD and KD2 which makes sense cause it was just him and Hit Boy in the studio whereas he said the vibe in Wyoming was weird and Nas didn’t even hear the beats until the listening party on QB

KD and KD 2 sound like they were produced by a guy who actually cared. Nasir sounds like it was incomplete and has too many joints with a low BPM and the drums don’t snap. Hit Boy clearly put more effort into the production than Kanye did and it shows.

mans was on point but needed production to match him, which Hit Boy delivered
 

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Well of course u ain’t gonna sound comfortable on the tracks if u don’t even know what the beats sound like until the album drops. Lol. Kanye stole beats. Stole an album cover, didn’t complete the album in time and fukked his release up.
exactly, the entire project was a mess.
fukk kanye.
 

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Well of course u ain’t gonna sound comfortable on the tracks if u don’t even know what the beats sound like until the album drops. Lol. Kanye stole beats. Stole an album cover, didn’t complete the album in time and fukked his release up.
I’m just glad people can now see what we were saying at the time and that it was Kanye who fukked that up and not Nas. Some people was trying to use Nasir as proof Nas fell off, but now as everyone can see that ain’t the case
 
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