Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

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Nasir production went over people head, Ye was on his Sgt Pepper, mad genius shyt and it was fukkin dope, lyrically that was Nas best lyrical album since Stillmatic


I don’t know about going over people’s heads. I just think people were expecting these incredible, Be level type of cohesive album, which we didn’t get because they literally recorded the entire project in a WEEK.


People were so upset about what the album wasn’t that they didn’t take time to appreciate what it WAS. Which was a return to I Am era Nas with more wisdom and introspection. There’s no way ANYBODY can convince me that Everything isn’t a superb song musically and lyrically. Or that Not For Radio doesn’t bang STUPID HARD in the whip.


But again objectively speaking, Nas and Kanye West should have made a stone cold classic. Especially given that Pusha T and Ye made one. Nobody knew at the time that Kanye was slowly going off the deep end mentally and was about to morph into a super c00n diva. Nobody also knew that Push and Ye had been working for YEARS while Nas and Ye only got a damn week.


That plus the mess that was the release date and the fact Kelis went public with her allegations that same month. People were chomping at the BIT to unfairly malign Nasir
 
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I don’t feel like looking for the Nas thread but dunns when the hell did the redid the made you look video??? I’m so used to the low quality version that this shyt is hurting my eyes lmao

I’m on the iPhone 12 Pro Max if that helps

 

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I don’t know about going over people’s heads. I just think people were expecting these incredible, Be level type of cohesive album, which we didn’t get because they literally recorded the entire project in a WEEK.


People were so upset about what the album wasn’t that they didn’t take time to appreciate what it WAS. Which was a return to I Am era Nas with more wisdom and introspection. There’s no way ANYBODY can convince me that Everything isn’t a superb song musically and lyrically. Or that Not For Radio doesn’t bang STUPID HARD in the whip.


But again objectively speaking, Nas and Kanye West should have made a stone cold classic. Especially given that Pusha T and Ye made one. Nobody knew at the time that Kanye was slowly going off the deep end mentally and was about to morph into a super c00n diva. Nobody also knew that Push and Ye had been working for YEARS while Nas and Ye only got a damn week.


That plus the mess that was the release date and the fact Kelis went public with her allegations that same month. People were chomping at the BIT to unfairly malign Nasir
Bonjour, Adam and Eve, everything, not for radio, simple things all are dope. Cops shot the kid wasnt a bad song either. Nas was spitting on white label but something was missing in that song.
 

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I don’t know about going over people’s heads. I just think people were expecting these incredible, Be level type of cohesive album, which we didn’t get because they literally recorded the entire project in a WEEK.


People were so upset about what the album wasn’t that they didn’t take time to appreciate what it WAS. Which was a return to I Am era Nas with more wisdom and introspection. There’s no way ANYBODY can convince me that Everything isn’t a superb song musically and lyrically. Or that Not For Radio doesn’t bang STUPID HARD in the whip.


But again objectively speaking, Nas and Kanye West should have made a stone cold classic. Especially given that Pusha T and Ye made one. Nobody knew at the time that Kanye was slowly going off the deep end mentally and was about to morph into a super c00n diva. Nobody also knew that Push and Ye had been working for YEARS while Nas and Ye only got a damn week.


That plus the mess that was the release date and the fact Kelis went public with her allegations that same month. People were chomping at the BIT to unfairly malign Nasir

But see that why fans need to chill the fukk out, when you j
I don’t know about going over people’s heads. I just think people were expecting these incredible, Be level type of cohesive album, which we didn’t get because they literally recorded the entire project in a WEEK.


People were so upset about what the album wasn’t that they didn’t take time to appreciate what it WAS. Which was a return to I Am era Nas with more wisdom and introspection. There’s no way ANYBODY can convince me that Everything isn’t a superb song musically and lyrically. Or that Not For Radio doesn’t bang STUPID HARD in the whip.


But again objectively speaking, Nas and Kanye West should have made a stone cold classic. Especially given that Pusha T and Ye made one. Nobody knew at the time that Kanye was slowly going off the deep end mentally and was about to morph into a super c00n diva. Nobody also knew that Push and Ye had been working for YEARS while Nas and Ye only got a damn week.


That plus the mess that was the release date and the fact Kelis went public with her allegations that same month. People were chomping at the BIT to unfairly malign Nasir

Nah bruh the production went over people head, most rap fan don't have an ear for music, just like at first they didn't understand Dilla or Madlib now they on their dikk. Musically the way Nasir production was chopped up it was crazy, Ye was in his mad genius bag the album production reminds me alot of Georgia Anne Murdlow cult classic Worthnothings
 

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I don’t know about going over people’s heads. I just think people were expecting these incredible, Be level type of cohesive album, which we didn’t get because they literally recorded the entire project in a WEEK.


People were so upset about what the album wasn’t that they didn’t take time to appreciate what it WAS. Which was a return to I Am era Nas with more wisdom and introspection. There’s no way ANYBODY can convince me that Everything isn’t a superb song musically and lyrically. Or that Not For Radio doesn’t bang STUPID HARD in the whip.


But again objectively speaking, Nas and Kanye West should have made a stone cold classic. Especially given that Pusha T and Ye made one. Nobody knew at the time that Kanye was slowly going off the deep end mentally and was about to morph into a super c00n diva. Nobody also knew that Push and Ye had been working for YEARS while Nas and Ye only got a damn week.


That plus the mess that was the release date and the fact Kelis went public with her allegations that same month. People were chomping at the BIT to unfairly malign Nasir

Nasir was always dope to me, but like you said, nobody was willing to give it a chance. Kanye spoke to Obama about how it was his dream to produce a Nas album. You made a promise to the president about doing this, so you think Kanye would treat this album like the project of his life. Whatever work he put into DAYTONA, he should have put twice that into Nasir. This was Nas' first album in six years. He put his other project (Nas Album Done) on hold just to go to Wyoming and engage Kanye in his little experiment. And then he gets repaid by only having a week to work on this. :francis:

"Not for Radio" was a fantastic opener. "Everything" was beautiful, especially the last verse. Remove about a minute and a half of singing, and people appreciate it a lot more. "Adam & Eve" was Nas snapping like only he could, and that was the level of quality the album deserved. Then you have a really nice chill joint like "Bonjour," along with "White Label" and "Simple Things." The only song that didn't work for me was "Cops Shot the Kid." Bad production and I didn't want to hear Kanye rap in 2018. Especially a verse he didn't write and didn't believe in.

As a side project, Nasir would have gotten better reception. Instead, Kanye and Mike Dean didn't have this highly important album ready on time. People thought Nas was lazy and off-beat. Beats and cover art were stolen. Critics wondered why Nas didn't address the Kelis allegations, trying to get him cancelled as an abuser. The album had no chance past the initial announcement. Nas deserved a better Kanye, but luck wasn't on his side.

Regardless, I'll always associate Nasir with the summer of 2018. I listened to it a lot at the time. And it started a streak of Nas feeding us for four summers. I listened to it weeks ago and it still holds up.
 
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Nasir was always dope to me, but like you said, nobody was willing to give it a chance. Kanye spoke to Obama about how it was his dream to produce a Nas album. You made a promise to the president about doing this, so you think Kanye would treat this album like the project of his life. Whatever work he put into DAYTONA, he should have put twice that into Nasir. This was Nas' first album in six years. He put his other project (Nas Album Done) on hold just to go to Wyoming and engage Kanye in his little experiment. And then he gets repaid by only having a week to work on this. :francis:

"Not for Radio" was a fantastic opener. "Everything" was beautiful, especially the last verse. Remove about a minute and a half of singing, and people appreciate it a lot more. "Adam & Eve" was Nas snapping like only he could, and that was the level of quality the album deserved. Then you have a really nice chill joint like "Bonjour," along with "White Label" and "Simple Things." The only song that didn't work for me was "Cops Shot the Kid." Bad production and I didn't want to hear Kanye rap in 2018. Especially a verse he didn't write and didn't believe in.

As a side project, Nasir would have gotten better reception. Instead, Kanye and Mike Dean didn't have this highly important album ready on time. People thought Nas was lazy and off-beat. Beats and cover art were stolen. Critics wondered why Nas didn't address the Kelis allegations, trying to get him cancelled as an abuser. The album had no chance past the initial announcement. Nas deserved a better Kanye, but luck wasn't on his side.

Regardless, I'll always associate Nasir with the summer of 2018. I listened to it a lot at the time. And it started a streak of Nas feeding us for four summers. I listened to it weeks ago and it still holds up.


Yea man Kanye completely dropped the ball. And whats crazy is even Kanye dropping the ball gets Nas a 4 Mic album. Everybody KNOWS what a focused Kanye could have given Nas and it simply wasn’t the classic that was worthy of both their names.

Still the IDEA of doing a string of 7 track EP’s I feel was genius. It was like GOOD Friday on steroids. Kanye should have staggered each album by a month, that would have given him more time to work and refine. Each album besides Daytona would have benefited from that.
 

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Bonjour, Adam and Eve, everything, not for radio, simple things all are dope. Cops shot the kid wasnt a bad song either. Nas was spitting on white label but something was missing in that song.
Nas couldn’t even stay on beat. Let’s not rewrite history here.
 
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