Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

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I'm a Pac and Nas fan, just giving King Disease 2 run I'm on Death Row East, and you know what Let Biggie and Pac Rest In Peace. Nas had over 25 year's to tell his story and he didn't. Let PAC rest in Peace, us who was of age during The Bad Boy vs Death Row beef that magazines renamed it West Coast vs East Coast Beef, we don't relieve that shyt no more, let's it go, stop bringing this up, that's was hip hop darkest period during the Beef. When Pac died I was 19 years old in 96, I lived the whole beef which started when I was in High School, The Source Awards with Death Row ect

Let that era go. Nas once said Never looking backwards always moving foward. Let's move forward

Rest In Peace Tupac Amaru Shakur
Rest In Peace Francis M.H. White aka Biggie
Rest In Peace Jake Robles
Rest In Peace Anthony Wolf Jones
Rest In Peace Stretch
 
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I'm a Pac and Nas fan, just giving King Disease 2 run I'm on Death Row East, and you know what Let Biggie and Pac Rest In Peace. Nas had over 25 year's to tell his story and he didn't. Let PAC rest in Peace, us who was of age during The Bad Boy vs Death Row beef that magazines renamed it West Coast vs East Coast Beef, we don't relieve that shyt no more, let's it go, stop bringing this up, that's was hip hop darkest period during the Beef. When Pac died I was 19 years old in 96, I lived the whole beef which started when I was in High School, The Source Awards with Death Row ect

Let that era go. Nas once said Never looking backwards always moving foward. Let's move forward

Rest In Peace Tupac Amaru Shakur
Rest In Peace Francis M.H. White aka Biggie
Rest In Peace Jake Robles
Rest In Peace Anthony Wolf Jones
Nas was one of the first people in the mainstream to let people know they squashed it in Bryant Park. That was back in 99. He has also spoken on it before. It’s as much his story to tell as it is Pac’s. Especially when u got nikkas like Snoop who wasn’t even there lying about the situation.
 

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I wonder what Nas’ next move is. I wouldn’t be against another Hit Boy collab but same time there’s point you both go separate ways (of course with some Hit Boy beats on next album).

they basically seem like best friends right now and just hang out in studio and make music so wouldn’t be surprised if they carry on for some sort of trilogy
 

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Nas was one of the first people in the mainstream to let people know they squashed it in Bryant Park. That was back in 99. He has also spoken on it before. It’s as much his story to tell as it is Pac’s. Especially when u got nikkas like Snoop who wasn’t even there lying about the situation.
And we know this, all I'm saying he could of put it on track like he did with Bigge Last Real nikka alive way back then.

Now why you bringing up Ghost's on a track now, let the dead sleep, stop opening up unhealed wounds that still haunt hip hop today, hip hop is still feeling the effects of Death Row vs Bad Boy beef to this day
 

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I wonder what Nas’ next move is. I wouldn’t be against another Hit Boy collab but same time there’s point you both go separate ways (of course with some Hit Boy beats on next album).

they basically seem like best friends right now and just hang out in studio and make music so wouldn’t be surprised if they carry on for some sort of trilogy


Hopefully a collab EP or album with AZ produced by hit boy or something with the firm

hopefully he realizes they HAVE to do it lol
 
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I legit enjoyed the album. Like the brother laid down a path for how a 40 plus year old rapper can “compete” by just doing him and embracing their veteran status


It’s rare to get to say that about an entire project these days.

But I legit drove around the city just to listen to it all the way thru, it’s been a while since I did that.

hitboy understands Nas in an almost Dre and Snoop Dogg kinda way where he just knows what to put in front of him.
 
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Better grown man album than LIG...

Ziggy and Spliz gon kill me.. lol


No i actually agree.




Crazy because Life Is Good has been the holy grail for the second half of Nas’s career. No ID and Salaam absolutely LACED Nas with some incredible production.


But Kings Disease 2 is an evolution of that sound. Hit Boy took the best of what Salaam, NO ID, and Kanye are capable of and sprinkled in some new age Pete Rock inspiration and made some stone cold CLASSIC production for Nas to just attack. There is literally not ONE wasted note on the entire album. The beat switches within the songs are the BEST since Good Kid M.a.a.d City.


I said it the night of release and i’ll say it again. Nas is a fukking genius with how he’s handled his career the past 30 years. The ability to believe in yourself when a very large portion of your so called “fanbase” wants to only see you work with the same five producers for your entire career has got to be a maddening prospect. When it was announced that Hit Boy was doing all the production on Kings Disease 1 and Nas was saying how proud he was of the work they had done, look at the excitement, look at the happiness he had when speaking on the project.




And yet it was nikkas screaming “WHY NOT PREMIER!” “WHY NOT LARGE PROFESSOR!!?!”

Failing to understand the point that, as a creative, an artist has the right to MOVE ON and be inspired by different events, circumstances, and PRODUCERS. The good thing about Hit Boy is that he can easily emulate any of the styles of his predecessors whilst simultaneously making it sound fresh and new for the current times. Thats what lyricists like Nas, Jay-Z, and Common need. Somebody like Black Thought has been good all his career because he’s part of an actual BAND and can experiment and push the envelope sonically as he sees fit. Imagine fans DEMANDING that Kendrick Lamar only work with Scoop Deville, Sounwave, and Dr Dre for the rest of his career:gucci: that would be horrible! Imagine if early in his career Lupe Fiasco fans DEMANDED he only ever work with Soundtrack. Their art and vision would be severely compromised.


Nas knows what he’s doing, more importantly he knows what he NEEDS to make the best project he can at the time. Whether thats working with Will I Am on Hip Hop Is Dead, The Marley family on Distant Relatives, or Stic.Man on Untitled. THIS album, The Kings Disease Part 2 album that we’re all praising, is a direct culmination of THAT mindset and foresight. Of THAT understanding. Of THAT maturity. The Arts are the only medium where success is equally yoked between strategy and FEELING. Because an artists success is based upon getting a large number of people to understand, accept, and embrace that feeling. You CANNOT accomplish this by simply going into the studio with Premier and picking beats based upon the fact you made magic 20, 15, 10, or even 5 years ago. You gotta be able to FEEL like you are going to make something special.


Nas and Hit Boy made something special:banderas:
 

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I'm a Pac and Nas fan, just giving King Disease 2 run I'm on Death Row East, and you know what Let Biggie and Pac Rest In Peace. Nas had over 25 year's to tell his story and he didn't. Let PAC rest in Peace, us who was of age during The Bad Boy vs Death Row beef that magazines renamed it West Coast vs East Coast Beef, we don't relieve that shyt no more, let's it go, stop bringing this up, that's was hip hop darkest period during the Beef. When Pac died I was 19 years old in 96, I lived the whole beef which started when I was in High School, The Source Awards with Death Row ect

Let that era go. Nas once said Never looking backwards always moving foward. Let's move forward

Rest In Peace Tupac Amaru Shakur
Rest In Peace Francis M.H. White aka Biggie
Rest In Peace Jake Robles
Rest In Peace Anthony Wolf Jones
Rest In Peace Stretch


You do realize not only is this topic raised on here evvvvvery fuhking year, its always some random mufuhka poppin up on a podcast further putting out there fact or fiction take on it. He let the stories fly for alllll that time my nygga. Hell Breakfast club just asked him last year about shyt. Its always the nyggas who swear they rolled with Pac keeping it alive more than Nas or his peoples.

Dude just stop wit that
 

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So............
Why didn't "they" pop off???

Based on the scenario you're creating, shyt was supposed to go down

Based on what scenario? I don’t see any stories about jungle busting his guns at Deathrow :mjlol:
I said the whole Deathrow camp was in NY hence them not giving a fukk about any supposed threat.

You saw what happened when bad boy came out to LA. That’s how they got down. Not no shouting in the park.
 

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I'm a Pac and Nas fan, just giving King Disease 2 run I'm on Death Row East, and you know what Let Biggie and Pac Rest In Peace. Nas had over 25 year's to tell his story and he didn't.
Huh? He’s told his story through interviews. Other people that were there have told their version of the story in interviews. Now he put his story into music, because thats what artists do.
 
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