Nas - King’s Disease (Discussion Thread)
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Album of the year
Yep. Was struggling between this and Ka's album but KD is only improving with each listen
We are not having a honest convo about this Nas album imo.
Nas is slightly off on his rhyming on some of this album. Like, he his not rapping in time with the beats and not in the same vein of the Late Great Prodigy's on beat/off beat rhyme cadence.
Also the production on some of these songs have a fruity flavor to them.
Also I still contend that Nas lyrics are the star of the show and the production should cater to Nas not the other way around. Bring back the Salam Remi the L.E.S and the other producers and production of old so Nas can get off in the way we are all familiar with, exceedingly skillful, poignant, conscious raising,fly, funky, uncanny, ultimately indescribable and unfathomable.
Also their is a push online from listeners to elevate this album higher than it is in Nas discography, and it's place among projects of the year.
People in this thread are calling this a 5 mic classic and at the top of Nas catalogue, both are CLEARLY FALSE.
I am a life long Nas fan and I'd rather look toward his next project because this was a concession and a compromise to the fake "Nas got no beats" crowd.
The younger generation's addiction /preference/conditioning, and predilection for non-Boom Bap and Trap influenced beats has steered this project and modern Hip Hop in general, for clearly less than stellar, less than optimal, and at times disastrous results.
We have seen a a widely acknowledged modern decline in lyrics, due to the difficulty and near general impossibility of being lyrical on non-boom bap/ non-boom bap influenced production.
There is a insincerity online and in this thread about this King's Disease L.P. that is evidenced with the lack of classic acclaim and incongruity with reputable music criticism outlets, and long time Hip Hop personalities in the culture, from Charlemagne, to music critics in magazine publications, to the more prominent YouTube critics having given
King's Disease a total average medium rating, and non- classic ratings.
There is a misguided and (somewhat understandable) desire for the younger gen. to have a Classic Nas album released in their era, but the fact is that has yet to be the case.
They have tried on this site to elevate Nasir Lp and even Lost Tapes 2, to a higher status than it deserves so that they can have a Nas classic as their own.
They need to just accept that most of the undeniable and unanimous Nas classics were released when they were young toddlers and children too young to fully consume Nas albums of the late 90s and early 2000s.
Nas excelled when he writes/ works for longer periods of time on projects like 'Life is Good' with mulitiple producers, executives Producers, A&Rs, hometown QB friends and family (Jungle), and musicians to help cultivate/inspire a creative vibe for Nas to thrive in. He usually, rather than only spending a shorter period a week or so like the Nasir LP and Kings Disease spends longer amounts of time composing and working on songs to give us classics like Illmstic It Was written and songs of Lost Tapes like "Drunk By My Self".
Nas is slightly off on his rhyming on some of this album. Like, he his not rapping in time with the beats and not in the same vein of the Late Great Prodigy's on beat/off beat rhyme cadence.
Also the production on some of these songs have a fruity flavor to them.
Also I still contend that Nas lyrics are the star of the show and the production should cater to Nas not the other way around. Bring back the Salam Remi the L.E.S and the other producers and production of old so Nas can get off in the way we are all familiar with, exceedingly skillful, poignant, conscious raising,fly, funky, uncanny, ultimately indescribable and unfathomable.
Also their is a push online from listeners to elevate this album higher than it is in Nas discography, and it's place among projects of the year.
People in this thread are calling this a 5 mic classic and at the top of Nas catalogue, both are CLEARLY FALSE.
I am a life long Nas fan and I'd rather look toward his next project because this was a concession and a compromise to the fake "Nas got no beats" crowd.
The younger generation's addiction /preference/conditioning, and predilection for non-Boom Bap and Trap influenced beats has steered this project and modern Hip Hop in general, for clearly less than stellar, less than optimal, and at times disastrous results.
We have seen a a widely acknowledged modern decline in lyrics, due to the difficulty and near general impossibility of being lyrical on non-boom bap/ non-boom bap influenced production.
There is a insincerity online and in this thread about this King's Disease L.P. that is evidenced with the lack of classic acclaim and incongruity with reputable music criticism outlets, and long time Hip Hop personalities in the culture, from Charlemagne, to music critics in magazine publications, to the more prominent YouTube critics having given
King's Disease a total average medium rating, and non- classic ratings.
There is a misguided and (somewhat understandable) desire for the younger gen. to have a Classic Nas album released in their era, but the fact is that has yet to be the case.
They have tried on this site to elevate Nasir Lp and even Lost Tapes 2, to a higher status than it deserves so that they can have a Nas classic as their own.
They need to just accept that most of the undeniable and unanimous Nas classics were released when they were young toddlers and children too young to fully consume Nas albums of the late 90s and early 2000s.
Nas excelled when he writes/ works for longer periods of time on projects like 'Life is Good' with mulitiple producers, executives Producers, A&Rs, hometown QB friends and family (Jungle), and musicians to help cultivate/inspire a creative vibe for Nas to thrive in. He usually, rather than only spending a shorter period a week or so like the Nasir LP and Kings Disease spends longer amounts of time composing and working on songs to give us classics like Illmstic It Was written and songs of Lost Tapes like "Drunk By My Self".
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Life is Good
All Star
Please don’t reply to the above Post. Let it stay on ignore. It’s obvious seeking attention is the method.
"The stupidest part of Africa produced Blacks that started algebra" Hardest bar of the whole project that line is so ill.
submarine1
Pro
Foxy Brown's verse was not that dope and it wasn't on topic for the song.
Her voice and cadence has always been raw but she wasn't saying sh-t for 80% of her verse.
Not hating at all, it just dont fit - and it feels like Nas was just happy he got a complete verse from her.
They could have just added another song with a proper Foxy and Dre song - that would have been ill collab.
Welcome back Firm but the firs 3 verses were so good it made the last verses even weaker.
Overall this album has grown on me after a few listens, it gets better as time goes on.
Her voice and cadence has always been raw but she wasn't saying sh-t for 80% of her verse.
Not hating at all, it just dont fit - and it feels like Nas was just happy he got a complete verse from her.
They could have just added another song with a proper Foxy and Dre song - that would have been ill collab.
Welcome back Firm but the firs 3 verses were so good it made the last verses even weaker.
Overall this album has grown on me after a few listens, it gets better as time goes on.
BossMobb
Knewgoat the novel every Black American should own
Inspect Her Deck
Skins of all colours come together as brothers
That's the problem with you Nas stans.
You can't accept criticism at any level, whether genuine or trolling.
Most sensitive fukking fan base on the net. Album is what it is. Another meh entry into the discography.
They need to drop that Spicy video asap.
@Ziggiy you and I are the biggest Nas super fans on this site as evidenced by my and your posting and thread history
I prolly have the most archival Nas related post on this forum.
I am not some type of troll. I just gave my honest feelings about the album, and the discussion around the album online. Smh. Lol
I prolly have the most archival Nas related post on this forum.
I am not some type of troll. I just gave my honest feelings about the album, and the discussion around the album online. Smh. Lol
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Why are you expecting to have a civil, objective discussion about Nas and your feelings about this album in a thread full of people who probably think Nas pisses nectar-scented electricity? It ain't happening.@Ziggiy you and I are the biggest Nas super fans on this site as evidenced by my and your posting and thread history
I prolly have the most archival Nas related post on this forum.
I am not some type of troll just gave my honest feelings about the album and discussion around the album online. Smh. Lol
spliz
SplizThaDon
If boy don’t like the album it is what it is. Everybody got their tastes. Only thing is the issue that it’s Nas’ problem and not the fact that it’s not ur cup of tea. Nas did nothing wrong with this project imo. As far as his performance.
spliz
SplizThaDon
I came at u for creating threads about the album outside of the official album thread. But looking how people reacting maybe it was for the best. Lol. We gotta allow healthy opinions and conversations about the album man. Not everyone gonna feel it. But what a new thread will do is invite his haters to completely shyt on him. We just gotta be more open to healthy discussions in this thread.@Ziggiy you and I are the biggest Nas super fans on this site as evidenced by my and your posting and thread history
I prolly have the most archival Nas related post on this forum.
I am not some type of troll. I just gave my honest feelings about the album, and the discussion around the album online. Smh. Lol