Nas - King’s Disease (Discussion Thread)

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The problem I’ve noticed is Pitch Fork and all these ‘woke’ white people got into hip hop it seems in the 2010s. Hip hop came the darling of white ‘critics’ around then so they love the new guys and Jay because Jay Z (no hate) knows how to pander to these sorts of people

Any of the old school hated on lot of the time.

these the same people who loved TPAB but hated on Untitled

the only evidence you'll ever need that pitchfork are a bunch of fake woke incels is in this review

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it's just crazy to me that you have writers for sites like rolling stone and pitchfork trying to call out nas' misogynism while there are decades of abuses by white artists and other critical darlings that they just ignore, or sweep under the rug, until they can't anymore. they're smart enough to write about nas being a (pretty mild) misogynist but not to unpack the history of their publication's name, like rolling stone, or their place in music history, like pitchfork.

here's a few examples of the shyt i'm talking about:

- rolling stone is a magazine named after a group of men who have undoubtedly hit and taken advantage of women over the 50 years they've been around - definitely more than anyone they call out
- in 2010-2011 pitchfork pushed the hipster agenda around lana del rey being an industry plant and having no control over her music or image, which was a misogynist argument in itself. they've never looked back at their own conduct around it
- pitchfork JUMPED on the chicago stuff when keef blew up, put up a video dry snitching on him and got him arrested again. he was 17 or 18 at the time, and they were all adults who should've seen the risks of what they were filming. i've never seen them talk about it
- i'm not even going to bother to name the hundreds of artists who these publications adore who will never be held to account for stuff that they've done. but it's interesting to see that jay-z gets a free pass from all of them. nobody would deny that he's abused women in the past, but nobody wants to talk about it either. why the fukk do they think solange was :demonic: in the elevator

somehow all of this is a problem, but only for nas.
 
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Ill only listen to hip hop publications anyway. An outsiders opinion never mattered. They'll coopt some Griselda, Young Thug, and their new darling Freddie Gibbs however (and I've always guppies Gibbs so thats not a shot).

Ill wait for reviews from places like DEHH or other places. Objectively it can't be below a 7.5 on anyone's scale. It doesn't overstay its welcome, and the production is A1. Even Fantanos hating ass gave it a 7 and i can tell hes always been irritated by Nas.

As far as cars go this guys pretty on point. The youtube guys actually listen to the music. Haven't seen anything negative on YT



Written publications all have agendas now. Everything is scripted now.
 
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Thats the thing though...it feels like at times there isnt any black music writers or hip hop publications. I just went to XXL and they aint published an album review online since 2018. Hip Hop DX is moving slow and aint updated their albums in a month. We got a few up and coming sites hotnewhiphop etc but they dont get added to Metacritic


This shows a real lack of diversity and perspective in writing at music sites and its still white folks. I wouldnt have too much of an issue if not for the fact the Pitchfork and Rolling Stone reviews are pretty transparent, they acknowledge its great but have weird gripes to mark the album down that arent to do with the music.
 

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Honestly this type of shyt is disgusting. I really wish there was a way to fukk these crackas job up or somethin. This shyt ain’t even logical if u listened to the album. I missed the days where rappers would run up in these crackas studios. This review is damn near slander.
 

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Reviews matter less and less just like awards do and just like sales do. The internet for better or worse democratized everything and out the power in the hands of the people. Who really gives a fukk about what outdated publications have to say. More people tune into their favorite "personality" these days to get their reactions or reviews. (for the record I don't). Younger generation couldn't give less of a flying fukk about pitchfork. There really aren't any sacred publications anymore. Just look at the freshman class in this year's xxl
 

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Any chance that video with him
and Davido could be the first single
from the secret album or do y'all think
it's outright a Davido song?
 
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Any chance that video with him
and Davido could be the first single
from the secret album or do y'all think
it's outright a Davido song?


I’d wager its 100% a Davido song as Nas seems to be really working King’s Disease right now and he JUST dropped a video for Ultra Black yesterday and from all accounts a video for Spicy is coming soon.


For example, there was an eight month gap between the release of I Am and Nastradamus. The first single from I am Nas Is Like was released in March and Nastradamus title track single was released in November alongside the album.


King’s Disease could potentially have three singles (Ultra Black, Spicy, and Replace Me) so the album/singles would need time to breathe.


If Nas REALLY intends to drop another album it would probably be in winter. Before Untitled started his run of summer albums, the previous five Nas albums had been released in winter months (Stillmatic-Hip Hop Is Dead) that would give King’s Disease enough to time to be worked properly and then he could start promo for the new album that could carry his momentum well into 2021 (Allah willing by that time PERHAPS he could start touring again)
 
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