"Nas had the poorest work ethic for a superstar, that's why Jay z won" TK Kirkland

[Mook]

Calling Nas a superstar is ridiculous.

 

[mr.africa]

These mother fukkers planned to make y’all mad and it worked.

Y’all gotta stop falling for the bait.

 

[Billy Ocean]

I swear I had that same face too lol. I remember dude from back in the day but I don’t remember anybody calling him great. I bet I can ask 100 people who their top 10 comedians all time are and I bet nobody names TK Kirkland

Dude just ain't that funny, bro. I tried getting into his stand up but I barely crack a smile during his sets. And I always thought dude is lowkey a homo. He got the lisp and mannerisms of a booty bandit.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I brought up how many albums he made because the topic was his work ethic and that was to show that his work ethic hasn't been poor. Are you paying attention to the topic at hand?

Jay has had more commercial success when it comes to the mainstream because Jay has done a better job at coming with more successful commercial singles that appeal to a wider audience when you compare him and Nas but to say Jay won because Nas had a poor work ethic is bullshyt.

To nikkas who idolize Jay, they feel like he won because he got a shyt load of money, married Beyonce', got almost every rich and famous somebody from Oprah to Obama to Warren Buffet in the world giving him props for his business acumen, along with making some good records here and there.

Because a nikka come with some good and sometimes great hit singles almost every album, don't speak for the whole album. You can have a couple of hit singles almost every album and still make and put out a half ass album almost every round you drop. So to sit here and act like Jay consistently was dropping great album after great album every go round is ridiculous; and I'm not saying Nas has consistently has dropped great album after great album either. But what I am saying is that when you compare and contrast their talent as lyricists and MCs, Nas comes out the winner. When it come to essence and raw talent of this Hip Hop shyt, Nas is better than Jay in every way except for coming with mindless/frivolous records for the club. Jay can run laps around Nas when it comes to making music for the club because that's always been Jay's bread and butter, but when it comes to making some shyt with substance that's well written and above and beyond what every other nikka in Hip Hop is doing, Nas is the best.

When we talking bout pure talent as an MC and lyricist, Nas outshines Jay in every way except for coming with some shyt for the clubs.

But Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, and Life Is Good, > Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, The Black Album and 4:44

Oh yeah and just for emphasis again, Ether > The Takeover

In the end, Nas won.

See that’s not the point tho. VYou said you got the point

They didn’t say his shyt was terrible. They said his work ethic wasnt jay. Jay out worked him. So even if nas was on level 9, jigga was on 10.

At no point do they bring up lower quality. Or that jay made better albums. Not one time. So while your opinions may be correct, that’s not any part of the point.

Point is if nas, with the lane made for him in 94, was banging nikkas in the head with albums, tours, a label, features, clothing line, interviews, press, etc etc. he’d be considered the king and have jay’s status

That’s all they were arguing. Give them the same exact style but jay worked like nas and nas worked like jay.... nas would be that guy. Does nas want that? Who knows. But it’s a fact he ain’t there. And every one of his album had a commercial hit and was a commercial hit. But then he’d go disappear right after

 

[I love Latina women]

See that’s not the point tho. VYou said you got the point

They didn’t say his shyt was terrible. They said his work ethic wasnt jay. Jay out worked him. So even if nas was on level 9, jigga was on 10.

At no point do they bring up lower quality. Or that jay made better albums. Not one time. So while your opinions may be correct, that’s not any part of the point.

Point is if nas, with the lane made for him in 94, was banging nikkas in the head with albums, tours, a label, features, clothing line, interviews, press, etc etc. he’d be considered the king and have jay’s status

That’s all they were arguing. Give them the same exact style but jay worked like nas and nas worked like jay.... nas would be that guy. Does nas want that? Who knows. But it’s a fact he ain’t there. And every one of his album had a commercial hit and was a commercial hit. But then he’d go disappear right after

No disrespect bruh but this post is all over the place. Reminds me of this gif

 

[UserNameless]

Dude just ain't that funny, bro. I tried getting into his stand up but I barely crack a smile during his sets. And I always thought dude is lowkey a homo. He got the lisp and mannerisms of a booty bandit.

I thought he was kinda funny back in the day, but not elite level humor... is he still doin' standup?


And his mannerisms are ... different.

 

[DontEemTry]

God damn nikkas just can't let both these nikkas live.

That battle was 16 years ago

Think about that shyt for a minute. Both these nikkas are on to bigger and better things in their lives and nikkas still out here squabbling.

 

[Lord Mecca]

How many remixes has Eminem been on?

What the hell Eminem got to do with what we're talking about?

 

[ABlackMan]

He dropped 5 albums between 96 and 02. That was the standard at the time.

You wanna be great yo go above the standard. You set the standard.

 

[nieman]

See that’s not the point tho. VYou said you got the point

They didn’t say his shyt was terrible. They said his work ethic wasnt jay. Jay out worked him. So even if nas was on level 9, jigga was on 10.

At no point do they bring up lower quality. Or that jay made better albums. Not one time. So while your opinions may be correct, that’s not any part of the point.

Point is if nas, with the lane made for him in 94, was banging nikkas in the head with albums, tours, a label, features, clothing line, interviews, press, etc etc. he’d be considered the king and have jay’s status

That’s all they were arguing. Give them the same exact style but jay worked like nas and nas worked like jay.... nas would be that guy. Does nas want that? Who knows. But it’s a fact he ain’t there. And every one of his album had a commercial hit and was a commercial hit. But then he’d go disappear right after

Every 2 years, IllWill was a label, Willie Esco was Nas' clothing line before Rocawear, hella features all over the place...he's done tracks with way more artists. And Jay wasn't the interviewing type either, especially back then. The only way to get Jay's status is visibility and brand recognition, which Nas doesn't do. But that doesn't equate to having a poor work ethic.

 

[AMcV'88]

these threads are always comedy. especially wen Jay gets brought into it.
the way certain Nas fans turn their nose up at Jay-Z and talk as if he's the devil is still amusing/embarrassing.

I agree but not everyone’s intention is to be a huge star. Nas might like the life he has where he doesn’t have to do all the shyt Jay did, and just wants to have a more chill and easy going life. Still rich, still the highest echelon of legend. He’s just not as famous.

i agree but i think in those couple years after BIG's death he def went for that top dog crown..he was probably more visible than ever, his output, was on the Clue/Slay tapes, Belly etc no one can say his work ethic was bad it had stumbling blocks..while Jay-Z who after an initial stumble (Sunshine video etc) got rolling and they were a such well oiled machine taking over and just killing everything.

plus there was the phenomenon that was DMX who took the world by storm then too so;

i think after Stillmatic which was like a triumphant return and taking on everybody, labels, radio stations. etc
he settled and just did what he wanted after that.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Calling Nas a superstar is ridiculous.

You are right, he's past that. He is a legend who will never be forgotten in this hip hop shyt.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

these threads are always comedy. especially wen Jay gets brought into it.
the way certain Nas fans turn their nose up at Jay-Z and talk as if he's the devil is still amusing/embarrassing.



i agree but i think in those couple years after BIG's death he def went for that top dog crown..he was probably more visible than ever, his output, was on the Clue/Slay tapes, Belly etc no one can say his work ethic was bad it had stumbling blocks..while Jay-Z who after an initial stumble (Sunshine video etc) got rolling and they were a such well oiled machine taking over and just killing everything.

plus there was the phenomenon that was DMX who took the world by storm then too so;

i think after Stillmatic which was like a triumphant return and taking on everybody, labels, radio stations. etc
he settled and just did what he wanted after that.

false. nas took like a 3 year break between solo albums after IWW

 

[Tribal Outkast]

You are right, he's past that. He is a legend who will never be forgotten in this hip hop shyt.

Exactly. Why settle for being called a star when your name is still being brought up after more than 20 years in hiphop? I mean being called a star ain't shyt cause you can lose that shyt. The Fat Boys were stars, MC Hamner was a star, Ja Rule was a star, Nas is past that shyt. A lot of people are called stars but are given the "who?" Treatment one year later.

 

[jwonder]

This is why I don't pay attention to dumb nikkas. It has nothing to do with Nas work ethic at all. He is a rapper. He was great at it. Jay Z had better business acumen. Everybody does not have that entrepreneur spirit or is good at it. Jay Z is great at it. I'd take Nas over him for rapping though.