"Nas had the poorest work ethic for a superstar, that's why Jay z won" TK Kirkland

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

No he wasn't outselling jay in 1999. That's regionalist history. 9'e of the reasons People though jay was winning against nas(before ether) is because jay was bigger than him in the years leading up to that

nastradamua only sold a little over platinum. Vol2 sold 2 million in the year of 98
And his next album sold over 2 million in 1999. Big pimpin was bigger than any song nas released during that time of 99/2000

Why compare vol 2 to nastradamus instead of I am? We all know nastradamus was a rushed album and to boot it came out almost a year after I am and still sold. Jay wasn't bigger in the years leading up not until he caught that crossover hit.

Jay wasn't bigger until he did hard knock.

 

[mson]

What imaginary race are people talking about? Why are people running with that billionaire shyt? Who projected that?

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

let me simplify

in 94 nas starting running

in 96 jay starting running

in 2017 jay has won the race


nobody said nas didn't try hard... but jay ran harder... jay outworked him

What race?

Nas wasn't ever trying to be the businessman Jay was. Jay was never the artist Nas is. They had their lanes. Nas still get on songs and crush random features but he lost what? His flow still sharper. The goal posts just keep getting moved to tell whatever story is convenient. This is first and foremost about music. Jay has never beat Nas at that. He excelled at being a better business man. Nas excelled at being a better artist.

It's absurd to overlook the fact that Nas has been artistically ahead of the curve for years. 4:44 is a good album but Nas did all that shyt damn near 10 years prior. Untitled, distant relatives. He still inspires Jay not the other way around.

Nas won

 

[IllmaticDelta]

let me simplify

in 94 nas starting running

in 96 jay starting running

in 2017 jay has won the race


nobody said nas didn't try hard... but jay ran harder... jay outworked him

what race? nas was never in any race with jay especially not the one Jay "Im not a rapper Im a hustler" z was on. The race Nas was on was to leave his mark on MCing/rapping and he did that right out of the gate with his debut, forever being credited with upping the bar for hiphop lyricism

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

what race? nas was never in any race with jay especially not the one Jay "Im not a rapper Im a hustler" z was on. The race Nas was on was to leave his mark on MCing/rapping and he did that right out of the gate with his debut, forever being credited with upping the bar for hiphop lyricism

nas was supposed to be the god... the king... he said those words to biggie.. "there can only be one king"

would you say right now... is jay-z the bigger artist in rap or nas? is nas the king or jay? now if he don't care all the sudden, cool.. but it was him vs biggie for the crown... biggie died.. it was all for nas.. but now it's jay's

 

[JYoung24]

why

how many 90's superstars are left

Nas was relevant before Jay-Z and is still here.

opinions aren't fact. The fact is you could look at Nas class of 90's and see who's still here and that statement isn't true.

An artist doesn't have to be a businessman. The reason Nas won still relevant and still here is because he was always a great artist first and foremost that's undeniable.

And he's a businessman too

 

[JYoung24]

Jay won cause he simply makes better music (and is more popular)

He don't make better music

 

[JYoung24]

every single one of y'all is missing the point of what he was trying to say. he wasn't saying nas had a shytty work ethic so he ain't shyt.. or he ain't great.. or one of the greatest.. or nothing like that.. he said the reason jay-z won, is because nas work ethic... straight up jay vs nas and this is not about ether or the beef


what this is all about, is Nas was the supposed to be the motherfukking KING of rap... fukk NY.. the king of it all... the next rakim.. the most sought after.. the 5 mic on his debut album nikka... the dude with all the greats standing behind him... the bidding war with everyone who was somebody... AND HE WAS OUT IN 94... he had the head start on jay by 2 years

now what happened next is both facts and opinion.. you can say jay didn't put out the best music.. you can also say nas didn't... you could say jay did.. you can say nas did.. that's all going to depend on which person you talk to

what is not up for debate, is that jay put out HITS year after year after year after year. never not once did you go 365 without new jay music... and it came with a hit record, great sales, and a new trend to follow.


somehow jay-z slid right into nas spot.. suddenly he was not only the king of ny, but the king of hip hop. others sold more, but didn't sell more, for as long. people were bigger in a given year or years, but jay would outwork you for longer.. "the reason why you lose the race, this is a marathoon.. you start off fast, but then you wheezing in the back, while i got enough leeqay to put out the reason by the mack, philadelphia freeway and i'm back"

the roc became the rap status symbol.. jay became the icon.. nas would hit you with an album every other, do great numbers, and disappear. IT WASN'T ONLY THE ALBUM THO.. what about tours? features? clothing? etc etc.



jay simply outworked nas in all aspects and his status proved it. jay is seen as the BIGGER artist together vs nas. even if you think nas is better and puts out better music. his recluse (self admitted) ways, hurt him from becoming who jay is... that was his spot

Jay never took Nas's spot and he is not the king of rap

 

[FeloniousMonk]

let me simplify

in 94 nas starting running

in 96 jay starting running

in 2017 jay has won the race


nobody said nas didn't try hard... but jay ran harder... jay outworked him

Jay been out since 88'..

 

[IllmaticDelta]

nas was supposed to be the god... the king... he said those words to biggie.. "there can only be one king"

nas was lyrically better on the mic than biggie...big was more pop

would you say right now... is jay-z the bigger artist in rap or nas? is nas the king or jay? n

jay is bigger in a pop sense (beyonce connection has alot to do with this) but IMO, nas is more revered as a lyricist/poet/mc.

now if he don't care all the sudden, cool.. but it was him vs biggie for the crown... biggie died.. it was all for nas.. but now it's jay's

nas never saw jay as equal on the mic..jay looked up to Nas, not the other way around

 

[JYoung24]

nas was supposed to be the god... the king... he said those words to biggie.. "there can only be one king"

would you say right now... is jay-z the bigger artist in rap or nas? is nas the king or jay? now if he don't care all the sudden, cool.. but it was him vs biggie for the crown... biggie died.. it was all for nas.. but now it's jay's

I go by who's better not bigger and Nas is the king

 

[BrothaZay]

Btw...am I the only one that never really found TK Kirkland that funny? Dude on here talking bout comedians like Jamie Foxx was hesitant to go on after him and I'm like

You a fucc nikka but I agree with this post

Dude stay lying

 

[BrothaZay]

Nas is Avon Jay is Marlo



Hes rich but he desperately wants the respect and recognition Nas has. And Nas isn't even one of my goats

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Jay never took Nas's spot and he is not the king of rap

who is... who moves the needle more than jay dropping an album? i'm not saying he's the best rapper.. i'm saying he's pretty much on top of the game right now and been so for a long time

Jay been out since 88'..

i'm talking debut albums... nas was heralded as the next king.. next rakim. next everything. jay wasn't popping like that. nobody was fiending for his debut based on 1 verse. by the time jay was coming out, it was nas vs biggie vs pac

nas was lyrically better on the mic than biggie...big was more pop
jay is bigger in a pop sense (beyonce connection has alot to do with this) but IMO, nas is more revered as a lyricist/poet/mc
nas never saw jay as equal on the mic..jay looked up to Nas, not the other way around

my point and the point in the video has nothing to do with skill... i guess what people are saying is, nas should be where jay is right now. fukk business and beyonce. nas album coming should stop time in hip hop. nas should be announcing world tours at stadiums.. nas should be getting his dikk sucked for life is good like jay was for 4:44.

maybe nas doesn't give a fukk to be that... but jay worked his ass off for that in all facets of life.. it was all for the end goal of dominance "i told y'all in 96 i was coming to take this shyt and i did"

 

[JYoung24]

who is... who moves the needle more than jay dropping an album? i'm not saying he's the best rapper.. i'm saying he's pretty much on top of the game right now and been so for a long time



i'm talking debut albums... nas was heralded as the next king.. next rakim. next everything. jay wasn't popping like that. nobody was fiending for his debut based on 1 verse. by the time jay was coming out, it was nas vs biggie vs pac


my point and the point in the video has nothing to do with skill... i guess what people are saying is, nas should be where jay is right now. fukk business and beyonce. nas album coming should stop time in hip hop. nas should be announcing world tours at stadiums.. nas should be getting his dikk sucked for life is good like jay was for 4:44.

maybe nas doesn't give a fukk to be that... but jay worked his ass off for that in all facets of life.. it was all for the end goal of dominance "i told y'all in 96 i was coming to take this shyt and i did"

who is... who moves the needle more than jay dropping an album? i'm not saying he's the best rapper.. i'm saying he's pretty much on top of the game right now and been so for a long time



i'm talking debut albums... nas was heralded as the next king.. next rakim. next everything. jay wasn't popping like that. nobody was fiending for his debut based on 1 verse. by the time jay was coming out, it was nas vs biggie vs pac


my point and the point in the video has nothing to do with skill... i guess what people are saying is, nas should be where jay is right now. fukk business and beyonce. nas album coming should stop time in hip hop. nas should be announcing world tours at stadiums.. nas should be getting his dikk sucked for life is good like jay was for 4:44.

maybe nas doesn't give a fukk to be that... but jay worked his ass off for that in all facets of life.. it was all for the end goal of dominance "i told y'all in 96 i was coming to take this shyt and i did"

So ur talking about popularity and if ur going by that emenim is