Name albums that were ahead their time but were overlooked as being classics.

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Im still waiting for the dude ziggy to explain how an album that sold far over 2 million, is nas biggest album and was a direct copy of what Rae, az, ghost, jay, big l, mobb deep all the way back to Kool G Rap were doing... Is "overlooked" and "ahead of its time"

It was considered a disappointing, borderline sellout album at the time of its release.
 

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fukk outta here and defy what the man did on a much larger grassroots scale than the clipse did.

the clipse live off of marketing for emo artist and that has sustained their draw.

more than that wack trap rap meets electric circus ass album they made.

the shyt sucked,..now, get over it.

not to mention kid rock in comparison as a cultural bboy in michigan.

far exceeds two wack sellout gangsta rappers with eclectic emo marketing and pr.

which does not help them save face in the genre to fans of that music.

QUEEN LATIFAH : they are wack,...face it!!


art barr

If you throw on HHNF and hear Electric Circus, your ears lost :smh:

Also, let me get this straight...

Kid Rock - Somehow, not a sellout...

Fat Joe - Somehow, not a sellout...

Queen Latifah - Somehow, not a sellout...


Come on, man. You just hate the Clipse, don't you? :rolleyes:
 

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It was considered a disappointing, borderline sellout album at the time of its release.
It was disappointing that a dude who dropped Illmatic now wanted to be like the tough guys. And obviously sellout cause the ones making gangster music were the ones selling records. It was still a great album though, most critics only had those arguments against the album and they still have the exact same opinions. At least the ones I know. Cats were still giving it mad props, a lot of people even said it was better than Illmatic. But it wasn't the same consensus classics generally has back then and still isn't right now.

Another thing I remembered is that it didn't really have a sound, it wasn't really well put together, more like a collection of songs.. shyt was all over the place.
 

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It was disappointing that a dude who dropped Illmatic now wanted to be like the tough guys. And obviously sellout cause the ones making gangster music were the ones selling records. It was still a great album though, most critics only had those arguments against the album and they still have the exact same opinions. At least the ones I know. Cats were still giving it mad props, a lot of people even said it was better than Illmatic. But it wasn't the same consensus classics generally has back then and still isn't right now.

Another thing I remembered is that it didn't really have a sound, it wasn't really well put together, more like a collection of songs.. shyt was all over the place.

You say It Was Written is a great album, but then say it didn't have a sound, and that it wasn't well put together? Being all over the place? I don't get what you're trying to say, sounds like a whole bunch of contradictions to me :yeshrug:
 

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You say It Was Written is a great album, but then say it didn't have a sound, and that it wasn't well put together? Being all over the place? I don't get what you're trying to say, sounds like a whole bunch of contradictions to me :yeshrug:

Thats the rub, it didn't have a real sound, it wasn't well put together, it was all over the place, and it was a great album, purely off the strength of Nas's lyricism. It was written is a strange album like that.
 

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I guess you didn't feel the beats. Listen nikka I listen to music to hear an intriguing story and be entertained. Idgaf if it's Rick Ross or Scarface, if you have a good song, I'm willing to hear it. The Clipse's word play and opposing dynamic is genius. The whole album is the duality of man. It's ghetto hood drug dealing rap with a conscience, something very, very, few artists in that niche every offer.

Of course the shyt ain't gonna be as lyrical as a the We got it for cheap tapes, many of those songs structurally were trash though. HHNF IS a classic. I notice it's only dumb nikkas that don't get/feel that album or any of the Clipse's music for that matter. I'm not saying you're dumb or stupid, but I would venture to say you missed the point of the album completely.

The similes, cadence, delivery-- just everything from Pusha especially was everything you want from a rapper. I don't care if this nikka works at Toys R Us in reality, the nikka had fukking bars upon bars. However, music is a relative thing so if you didn't like it, you didn't like. That's just how I feel about HHNF. It's probably the only hip hop album besides Reasonable Doubt or a Kanye album that I can go through and listen to everything without skipping. Hello New World is one of my favorite hip hop tracks of all time though.

i think you forget i am out here and did it for real.

those dudes offer no real content.

plus are not convincing in their subject matter in the manner other trap guys are. plus have outdated technical skills as well.

plus can not craft songs like that.

they offer nothing other than trying to come across as jayz biter clone number 7474747.

i heard jay be good jay and on no day are they good jay biter calibur of emcees.

if you gonna make dope boi trap music be convincing and not wimpy voiced't. then have some actual production that fits the mold. plus have some actual real indepth content. they did neither on that album.

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If you throw on HHNF and hear Electric Circus, your ears lost :smh:

Also, let me get this straight...

Kid Rock - Somehow, not a sellout...

Fat Joe - Somehow, not a sellout...

Queen Latifah - Somehow, not a sellout...


Come on, man. You just hate the Clipse, don't you? :rolleyes:

first off from jump everyone knows the demo with fat joe.

so kill that,..
next la is a female emcee and when were they not allowed to cheat.

next when did kid rock not make music that was true to kid rock.

the problem is the clipse made a wack album, period.

nobody wangs that offbrand unconvincing album.

which is so offbrand it departs away from what they were marketing themselves as on wgi4c.

the album was shelved for a reason. it was not blackb*stard kmd shelved. it was shelved cause it was huff.
you give them a glorious pass i do not.

also,...the production is offbrand departure away.

from what their sound and genre is like electric circus.

that is why, i called it that.

they also do not rap as well as common did on ec either.

which is the other issue. as wgi4c is light years better lyrically than this album.


this album was worse than jr writer's major label record. as it departed away from the wb mixtape series.

unlike jr,..these dudes are not cold emcees like that, lyrically.

plus they never got back to what was lordwilling to wgi4c afterwards, either.



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too tired to think about all of them but some of them off the top of my head.

Ab-Soul - Control System
Blu & Exile - Below The Heavens
Charles Hamilton - The Pink Lavalamp

inb4 Charles Hamilton got punched in the face by a girl, The Pink Lavalamp is seriously one of the best pieces of music I've ever heard and WAY ahead of its time. It's a crime that it was released for free.
 

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Missy Elliott- Supa Dupa Fly: When female rappers were overly sexual or were trying to be as hard as the guys, this album was successful. Latifah straddled the fence of R&B and Rap, but this album really blurred the lines. Not only that, musically, it was something that didn't quite sound like anything else at the time.

David Banner- Mississippi: Before K.R.I.T. came up, there was this album eight years earlier. Conscious, thought provoking content over soulful, dirty South production that hearkened back to the days of UGK and Eightball & MJG.

Cee Lo Green- Perfect Imperfections of Cee Lo Green: Speakerboxxx/Love Below before Speakerboxxx/Love Below on one disc.
 

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Thats the rub, it didn't have a real sound, it wasn't well put together, it was all over the place, and it was a great album, purely off the strength of Nas's lyricism. It was written is a strange album like that.

To me, the album fits well, the album has a dark moody vibe to it, only songs that are a bit out of place is black girl lost. You and Harry B are listing more flaws about the album then how good it is, so how can it be a great album if you two are listing so much flaws to it? For example, if I'm selling you a car and I say it is a great car, even though there is multiple problems with it, the abs sensor is off, needs new breaks, and the head gasket blew, is it still a great car, due to all the problems it has?

Its 4 am, and I'm tired as hell, but I hope you get where I'm getting at
 

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This was the most respected music critic in the U.S.' ALBUM OF THE DECADE.

I repeat: THE DECADE.

How is this album even close to being overlooked as a classic?
 

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To me, the album fits well, the album has a dark moody vibe to it, only songs that are a bit out of place is black girl lost. You and Harry B are listing more flaws about the album then how good it is, so how can it be a great album if you two are listing so much flaws to it? For example, if I'm selling you a car and I say it is a great car, even though there is multiple problems with it, the abs sensor is off, needs new breaks, and the head gasket blew, is it still a great car, due to all the problems it has?

Its 4 am, and I'm tired as hell, but I hope you get where I'm getting at

Strangely enough I though Black Girl lost was a good fit, I thought Street Dreams and If I ruled the World and the Firm track threw the album off for me. Yes, even with those problems a car can be great if the total package is greater than its individual parts, say for instance the car in question is an Acura NSX, then even with it's flaws (it's still a great car, if you can take the time to fix it) it will certainly be worth much more than the money you put into fixing it, feel me. It Was Written is not a perfect album and it was slammed when it dropped, it has it's flaws, but it's still a great album.
 

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This was the most respected music critic in the U.S.' ALBUM OF THE DECADE.

I repeat: THE DECADE.

How is this album even close to being overlooked as a classic?

Critics loved it but was mostly overlooked by the public.
 
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