My recent encounters with MLM pyramid scams: WAKEUPNOW, VISALUS, 5LINX and LIMU

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EVERYONE should watch this Penn and Teller episode on MLMs



Back when I was lurking The Coli I read a 40+ page on here about MLMs and watched a clip from this episode somebody posted. Been watching P&T episodes for a few months now. I like to open my mind up to different ways of thinking, whether I agree or not.
 

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1. the product is life insurance breh...life insurance...and occasionally IRAs....home/auto insurance...maybe prepaid legal....big scams right there :patrice:.....its a 100% commissioned based business...you recruit people (like he was trying to do with you) and then you override them (like every other insurance co in the world does)...so the more people you recruit the bigger your team is...the more you can sale....

2. its not easy to get in...once you sign up...you have to get licensed...which takes another month atleast...you cant sale life insurance without being licensed in your state...same goes for IRAs...you have to being series 6 licensed....yea you show it to your friends and family...but like some of you...they may not be interested...:yeshrug:

oh and the people you recruit dont pay you...youre paid from the companies that primerica markets for....

the problem is the majority of you dont know what youre talking about...:yeshrug:...thats pretty typical for around here so im not surprised

:russ: why i knew your bytch ass would be here defending primerica. nikka nothing we're saying here about primerica is new. the only thing primerica requires for licensing is a clean background and $90 a matter of fact they were even trying to get states the make the licensing test easier to pull in more dumb suckers like you.
 
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:russ: why i knew your bytch ass would be here defending primerica. nikka nothing we're saying here about primerica is new. the only thing primerica requires for licensing is a clean background and $90 a matter of fact they were even trying to get states the make the licensing test easier to pull in more dumb suckers like you.

false....what else you got?

primerica has nothing to do with that test...and has no control over it...as a matter of fact every state has its own test. passing is 70% correct...even if you sale insurance at prudential...you have to pass the same test....

so according to you primerica would lower the standards of the test to help out its competition? :patrice:

like ive been saying...you nikkas dont know what the hell youre talking about....

but keep it up...youre entertainment while i study for my series 6 license :blessed:[DOUBLEPOST=1397352858][/DOUBLEPOST]
Enjoy your cult friend. Tell us how you do.

You're right, the overwhelming public opinion that primerica recruiting and commission method is a modified pyramid scheme is unfounded. Everyone else is crazy except you.

pyramid schemes are illegal friend...

again...youre wrong....and ive found to be true in life is that if everybodys thinking the same thing...somebodys not thinking...

this place embodies that to a T...
 
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I did this shyt for a month before, it was some energy company, I knew nothing about MLM or any of that shyt, somebody I knew told me they was making
money doing it, which wasn't lie, but he just wanted me to join so he can get paid of me, because he knew I was a hustling type of nikka I would get sells.

So I went out to the eastcoast with this nikka, philly, and all them states around their. He introduced me to the Bosses and shyt, we had meetings in conference rooms at first, until they got an office, and I already knew off that back something was wrong because of the fukk type nikkaz they had up in here.

shyt was like a cult like atmosphere. Where they would try to do this chants and shyt to rile everybody up, shyt was kinda like Wolf of Wall Street office minus the whores and drugs.

You see the energy had been deregulated in the certain states, so all you had to do was sign people at the rate the company was offering
they wanted me to go door to door with this shyt.

They called themselves teaching salesmenship, but really they were teaching how to manipulate and con people, and I am grateful for those skills because they will come in handy

With that said I only quit, because they didn't pay me what I asked for.

I easily surpassed everyone in the office in sales even the nikka who recruited me, but I was still getting paid the base which was like 16 dollars per deal.
The most deals I did in a single day was 22, so I made 352 in one day fukking with this shyt. But you have to understand shyt was hard work I was out in the cold all day, and the things nobody would ever do those many sells because most people aren't crazy like me willing to go through extreme lengths.

But all I wanted was a team where I could make money of their deals, I didn't expect anyone to perform like me, but I had 20 people under me, it wouldn't matter how many they did as long as they put some points on the board, the shyt would add up and factor it in with my own sales.

Needless to say I said I needed 25 per deal I did and I needed 5 dollars of a team, to me this was beyond reasonable because I knew the deals were worth much more, I just wanted to hurry up and get some bands up so I can but for an appraisal on a commercial property and was gonna quit anyway.

So this nikkaz finally bring me some people to recruit, I mean most of these people are too dumb any damn way and lack any type of self motivation you need to be a sales person. But still I would just take them out and let them watch me, I got so good I had my own system, and I was the truth. So they would natural feed of my confidence, and put forth an effort.

It wasn't till they took people I trained and put them other people's teams, or moved them to entirely different offices all together, that I got pissed.

So I sabotaged this entire company, I called back all the people I signed up, because I kept logged, and told them to cancel.

Instead of going out in the field I was just went to the bar and got drunk, then I went door to door smelling like cognac, people called in the company and made complaints.

So when I finally quit they tried to keep my last check they owed me, I called the main office of the marketing company which is owned by two old cacs, I actually went to their house, and talked to them and told them this fukk boy was holding my bread. They couldn't believe that shyt and sent me that bread so fast, I let them know like I don't care about them other bums you running game on, they don't fukk with my bread because I'm coming for mines.

With that said MLM is a scam, not for the customers but for the people who work for them. The people at top will never let you get above a certain point
the shyt isn't designed for you to, I was such an incredible hustler that I broke the design, so they just had to straight up pull the plug on everything they had promised me in the first place.

I will start my own on these days, because it is an easy way to get rich, if your at the TOP and started the whole thing, and have the contracts from the actually company your marketing the services for in your name.

Also is all about the product your selling, I would never sell like weight lost shyt, or any of that dumb ass shyt a lot of people posted in here

like the Primerca, that shyt would work because people will need Insurance always, the buying the shyt anyway, why not from you, if you got sell it's on you
no different than working at a car lot.

also MLM are not pyramid schemes, pyramid schemes don't have products that's the only difference, and why MLMs are legal
 

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I did this shyt for a month before, it was some energy company, I knew nothing about MLM or any of that shyt, somebody I knew told me they was making
money doing it, which wasn't lie, but he just wanted me to join so he can get paid of me, because he knew I was a hustling type of nikka I would get sells.

So I went out to the eastcoast with this nikka, philly, and all them states around their. He introduced me to the Bosses and shyt, we had meetings in conference rooms at first, until they got an office, and I already knew off that back something was wrong because of the fukk type nikkaz they had up in here.

shyt was like a cult like atmosphere. Where they would try to do this chants and shyt to rile everybody up, shyt was kinda like Wolf of Wall Street office minus the whores and drugs.

You see the energy had been deregulated in the certain states, so all you had to do was sign people at the rate the company was offering
they wanted me to go door to door with this shyt.

They called themselves teaching salesmenship, but really they were teaching how to manipulate and con people, and I am grateful for those skills because they will come in handy

With that said I only quit, because they didn't pay me what I asked for.

I easily surpassed everyone in the office in sales even the nikka who recruited me, but I was still getting paid the base which was like 16 dollars per deal.
The most deals I did in a single day was 22, so I made 352 in one day fukking with this shyt. But you have to understand shyt was hard work I was out in the cold all day, and the things nobody would ever do those many sells because most people aren't crazy like me willing to go through extreme lengths.

But all I wanted was a team where I could make money of their deals, I didn't expect anyone to perform like me, but I had 20 people under me, it wouldn't matter how many they did as long as they put some points on the board, the shyt would add up and factor it in with my own sales.

Needless to say I said I needed 25 per deal I did and I needed 5 dollars of a team, to me this was beyond reasonable because I knew the deals were worth much more, I just wanted to hurry up and get some bands up so I can but for an appraisal on a commercial property and was gonna quit anyway.

So this nikkaz finally bring me some people to recruit, I mean most of these people are too dumb any damn way and lack any type of self motivation you need to be a sales person. But still I would just take them out and let them watch me, I got so good I had my own system, and I was the truth. So they would natural feed of my confidence, and put forth an effort.

It wasn't till they took people I trained and put them other people's teams, or moved them to entirely different offices all together, that I got pissed.

So I sabotaged this entire company, I called back all the people I signed up, because I kept logged, and told them to cancel.

Instead of going out in the field I was just went to the bar and got drunk, then I went door to door smelling like cognac, people called in the company and made complaints.

So when I finally quit they tried to keep my last check they owed me, I called the main office of the marketing company which is owned by two old cacs, I actually went to their house, and talked to them and told them this fukk boy was holding my bread. They couldn't believe that shyt and sent me that bread so fast, I let them know like I don't care about them other bums you running game on, they don't fukk with my bread because I'm coming for mines.

With that said MLM is a scam, not for the customers but for the people who work for them. The people at top will never let you get above a certain point
the shyt isn't designed for you to, I was such an incredible hustler that I broke the design, so they just had to straight up pull the plug on everything they had promised me in the first place.

I will start my own on these days, because it is an easy way to get rich, if your at the TOP and started the whole thing, and have the contracts from the actually company your marketing the services for in your name.

Also is all about the product your selling, I would never sell like weight lost shyt, or any of that dumb ass shyt a lot of people posted in here

like the Primerca, that shyt would work because people will need Insurance always, the buying the shyt anyway, why not from you, if you got sell it's on you
no different than working at a car lot.

also MLM are not pyramid schemes, pyramid schemes don't have products that's the only difference, and why MLMs are legal

1. the product is life insurance breh...life insurance...and occasionally IRAs....home/auto insurance...maybe prepaid legal....big scams right there :patrice:.....its a 100% commissioned based business...you recruit people (like he was trying to do with you) and then you override them (like every other insurance co in the world does)...so the more people you recruit the bigger your team is...the more you can sale....

2. its not easy to get in...once you sign up...you have to get licensed...which takes another month atleast...you cant sale life insurance without being licensed in your state...same goes for IRAs...you have to being series 6 licensed....yea you show it to your friends and family...but like some of you...they may not be interested...:yeshrug:

oh and the people you recruit dont pay you...youre paid from the companies that primerica markets for....

the problem is the majority of you dont know what youre talking about...:yeshrug:...thats pretty typical for around here so im not surprised
Buy/Sell Life Insurance from/for Pyramid Schemes brehs :bayer:
 

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:russ: @ the pollute your spirit line. Ima use that shyt on my girl if her friend ever decides to tell her we was fukking.[DOUBLEPOST=1397358349][/DOUBLEPOST]
this shyt is like a plague:damn:. i bought a dress pants at burlington and they had a taylor there too so i went to him to get the pants hemmed. dude couldn't do it the same day so he took my number to call me when he was done and give me his business card. his business card had like 6 different businesses on it:laugh: but in my mind i still :salute: the brother for being on his grind. later that afternoon i got a call from an unknown number and when i said hello some dude was like "manwhatthefukk do you know how much chemicals and other impurities are in your water" so i'm like who is this and dude was like it's the taylor from burlignton and he wanted to tell me about this great water filtration system which i can also sell :laugh:. i kinda felt sorry for dude so i basically told him i boil my water and put it in the fridge and i can't afford any of that right now and i don't have the time to sell anything.

Breh, when I was college, this company tried to come at me with that same bullshyt. I was looking for a job (was working for $7/hr and struggling at the time) and got an email online about a possible job opportunity. I drove down to the office, and was in like a warehouse with a bunch of other prospective interviewees in it. I sat down and listened to the bullshyt about how bad the water is and how great the company is doing and how much money I'd be making selling faucets and water purification systems. When them nikkas told me I had to pay like $500 to buy the products I'd be selling I was like :dahell:

Got the fukk on outta there and took my ass home. I'll never get those 4 hours of my life back breh :wow:
 
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but ignore the obvious and look at how nice his office is, he's gotta be making tons of money.


:troll:

I just love how you got this guy dressed up like lookin like he just got indicted and he's talking in some office that obviously isn't his with a portrait of some rich ass cac in the background. These MLM shills excel at talking about absolutely nothing.

:lupe: WOn't lie the fantasy they portray in the videos is alluring.
 

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The fukking craziness of this shyt is just today (saturday) i went to a world ventures presentation. The two speakers kept looking and talking to me cuz they knew i wasnt buying the shyt. So my friend is a rep for them. Another selling prepaid legal. Been doing that for some years. Another selling primerica, been doing that for some years. Every now and then I ask how it's going, "its ok". neither has made noticeable money yet. Another hasn't been licensed so she can't do shyt. Im just waiting for them to make money then I'll take them serious :manny:

But one hilarious thing about these mlm shyts is the presenters try to talk down on you when you mention the pyramid scheme shyt, thinking you don't really know what the shyt is. Or like pyramid schemes are nothing to be ashamed of, all legit businesses, basketball teams, church organizations form a pyramid :rolleyes: :camby:

Those world venture prices did seem tempting tho :guilty:
 

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. Or like pyramid schemes are nothing to be ashamed of, all legit businesses, basketball teams, church organizations form a pyramid :rolleyes: :camby:

Those world venture prices did seem tempting tho :guilty:

I hate when they use this dumbass argument. They're talking about organizational structure/hierarchy. When, ppl call them pyramids it's referring to the payment/revenue model
 
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I hate when they use this dumbass argument. They're talking about organizational structure/hierarchy. When, ppl call them pyramids it's referring to the payment/revenue model

what they should say is that pyramid schemes are illegal....and that primerica isnt a pyramid scheme...i posted a link describing what a pyramid scheme is above...

im sure most didnt bother to read it tho
 

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I hate when people push these in churches... the naïve really think it's "someone trying to genuinely put me onto something that will benefit my life".... When I was younger my wife was really into church, she was one of the youth mentors and whatnot.. The youth director's husband was into some MLM and thought that I was one of them "anything the church people say must be good" type of dudes, so when he was pushing this MLM.. I'd constantly question him on it, which he wasn't used to... I'm fairly smart, and not easily swayed once my mind is made up. He got heated and went and told my wife behind my back something along the lines of "He's not the kind of man you want to deal with, he's scared of success... he'll pollute your spirit"... and some other madness.. I told my wife I had no choice but to put hands on him because he crossed several lines. Long story short... I never put hands to the dude, he ended up ditching the scheme some months later and tried to apologize through a 3rd party as I'd basically left the church at this point. It's sad to see people get preyed on like this... it's always the people with no plan for themselves who got sucked into these things..

Rev. Meeks from salem/house of hope family is into that shyt. Church is huuuge, so of course they did well. And i feel bad for their members falling for the shyt cuz of course, definitely, there's a trust you have in your church leaders. Now they seeing "the first lady" driving her 5linx bmw and tryna get like her when they made her that way. The daughter is living in a house she supposedly got from them, I don't know if she own that shyt. Its unsettling. But lmao at your whole story.

breh its not a job...and the reason they are eager to get new people is because the more people you have...the more income you can make...so somebody making 20-40k /month...wouldnt they wanna make 50-60k?

Doesn't that sound weird to you? The more people you recruit to sell the more money you make. Why not just sell more product instead of steady trying to build your left and right. Why not have loyal customers instead of uninformed recruiters.


this shyt is like a plague:damn:. i bought a dress pants at burlington and they had a taylor there too so i went to him to get the pants hemmed. dude couldn't do it the same day so he took my number to call me when he was done and give me his business card. his business card had like 6 different businesses on it:laugh: but in my mind i still :salute: the brother for being on his grind. later that afternoon i got a call from an unknown number and when i said hello some dude was like "manwhatthefukk do you know how much chemicals and other impurities are in your water" so i'm like who is this and dude was like it's the taylor from burlignton and he wanted to tell me about this great water filtration system which i can also sell :laugh:. i kinda felt sorry for dude so i basically told him i boil my water and put it in the fridge and i can't afford any of that right now and i don't have the time to sell anything.

This whole post was one of the most hilarious things I ever read on here. The whole "manwhatthefukk I got a great deal for you. That is a great name to be referred to as
 

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I did this shyt for a month before, it was some energy company, I knew nothing about MLM or any of that shyt, somebody I knew told me they was making
money doing it, which wasn't lie, but he just wanted me to join so he can get paid of me, because he knew I was a hustling type of nikka I would get sells.

So I went out to the eastcoast with this nikka, philly, and all them states around their. He introduced me to the Bosses and shyt, we had meetings in conference rooms at first, until they got an office, and I already knew off that back something was wrong because of the fukk type nikkaz they had up in here.

shyt was like a cult like atmosphere. Where they would try to do this chants and shyt to rile everybody up, shyt was kinda like Wolf of Wall Street office minus the whores and drugs.

You see the energy had been deregulated in the certain states, so all you had to do was sign people at the rate the company was offering
they wanted me to go door to door with this shyt.

They called themselves teaching salesmenship, but really they were teaching how to manipulate and con people, and I am grateful for those skills because they will come in handy

With that said I only quit, because they didn't pay me what I asked for.

I easily surpassed everyone in the office in sales even the nikka who recruited me, but I was still getting paid the base which was like 16 dollars per deal.
The most deals I did in a single day was 22, so I made 352 in one day fukking with this shyt. But you have to understand shyt was hard work I was out in the cold all day, and the things nobody would ever do those many sells because most people aren't crazy like me willing to go through extreme lengths.

But all I wanted was a team where I could make money of their deals, I didn't expect anyone to perform like me, but I had 20 people under me, it wouldn't matter how many they did as long as they put some points on the board, the shyt would add up and factor it in with my own sales.

Needless to say I said I needed 25 per deal I did and I needed 5 dollars of a team, to me this was beyond reasonable because I knew the deals were worth much more, I just wanted to hurry up and get some bands up so I can but for an appraisal on a commercial property and was gonna quit anyway.

So this nikkaz finally bring me some people to recruit, I mean most of these people are too dumb any damn way and lack any type of self motivation you need to be a sales person. But still I would just take them out and let them watch me, I got so good I had my own system, and I was the truth. So they would natural feed of my confidence, and put forth an effort.

It wasn't till they took people I trained and put them other people's teams, or moved them to entirely different offices all together, that I got pissed.

So I sabotaged this entire company, I called back all the people I signed up, because I kept logged, and told them to cancel.

Instead of going out in the field I was just went to the bar and got drunk, then I went door to door smelling like cognac, people called in the company and made complaints.

So when I finally quit they tried to keep my last check they owed me, I called the main office of the marketing company which is owned by two old cacs, I actually went to their house, and talked to them and told them this fukk boy was holding my bread. They couldn't believe that shyt and sent me that bread so fast, I let them know like I don't care about them other bums you running game on, they don't fukk with my bread because I'm coming for mines.

With that said MLM is a scam, not for the customers but for the people who work for them. The people at top will never let you get above a certain point
the shyt isn't designed for you to, I was such an incredible hustler that I broke the design, so they just had to straight up pull the plug on everything they had promised me in the first place.

I will start my own on these days, because it is an easy way to get rich, if your at the TOP and started the whole thing, and have the contracts from the actually company your marketing the services for in your name.

Also is all about the product your selling, I would never sell like weight lost shyt, or any of that dumb ass shyt a lot of people posted in here

like the Primerca, that shyt would work because people will need Insurance always, the buying the shyt anyway, why not from you, if you got sell it's on you
no different than working at a car lot.

also MLM are not pyramid schemes, pyramid schemes don't have products that's the only difference, and why MLMs are legal

cool story bro
 
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