I love my job I only did it so I can have my foot the door to be a professor so now I teach and Advise yes its more of a bs job and u get a lot of p*ssy doing it
My Pre-Health Advisor just told me I wasn't good enough for Med and I should just give up.
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I love my job I only did it so I can have my foot the door to be a professor so now I teach and Advise yes its more of a bs job and u get a lot of p*ssy doing it
OneManGang
Veteran
Ill drop this in here for OP @TZiggy
I dont know what school you go to...and what your major is....but here are a few gems that I can give you. I was in your situation as well. I just got accepted to a Top 15 pharmacy school in the country (University of Tennessee) with a worse undergraduate GPA so you can look at me as an example.I went to graduate school and did well though, and med school is tougher to get into, but with my advice I think you have a shot. 3.3 GPA is definitely not the end of the world.
1) Find a research professor at your university and work on a project with him as an undergraduate - Schools love this. There is nothing like practical application of what you are learning about as a science major. Also it shows that you are able to handle your time effectively doing extra while still handling your course load. It makes you very knowledgeable on the subject you work on as well as allows you to work with other smart, dedicated students. Word to the wise, many professors just see you as free labor in their lab. They will use you, but use them back. Get to know them and work hard and they will write you great letters of rec...these are very important as admissions officers look highly upon these.
2) Do well on your MCAT (at least a 27) - To get into top med schools, you should be lookign at least for a 30-33...but as an African American male i think a 27 gives a shot at many good med schools around the country, while maybe not being a top tier. I dont know how well you did in pre reqs, but a solid understanding of chemistry (gen chem to orgo 2) and simple physics is huge. I had bad grades, but i was a chemistry major and it wasnt that I didnt know my stuff. I was just too busy playing basketball and chasing bytches. I am very good with chemistry so the PCAT was a breeze for me. Study in a disciplined manner for at least 2 months and if you arent getting concepts THEN you need to look for outside help. This is an investment that very well could put you over the top. Practice tests are important too...take the ones that the MCAT people themselves put out.
3) Shadow a physician, or other healthcare person - ask your doctor, work in a pharmacy, get a hospital job as a mover...something that can show the guys in admissions that you know what you will be getting into.
4) Extracurriculars - Touched on this before but they like seeing students involved. Especially if you can lock down a leadership position in a club or something. Find a job. You want to show them that you can handle the med school grind and have good time management skills. Volunteer in the community. Doesnt have to be anything major, but be able to talk about things when asked what you did.
Hope this helps. Your advisor is an a$$hole. Again I dont know your major, or what classes you took and what your grades were...but a 3.3 GPA is not bad at all. Ask me anything, im good with chem and bio and can point you in the right directions as far as study materials if you are serious. I was in the top 94 percentile for the PCAT (99% chem and 99% bio sections...i ran out of time on the last section which was quantitative and just chose C for like 20 questions
) and i plan on taking the MCAT maybe sometime next year. If i do well i'll consider med school over pharmacy. 
just keep grinding and take studying for the MCAT very seriously. Hard workers make good grades...people who understand concepts do well on the MCAT and PCAT.
I dont know what school you go to...and what your major is....but here are a few gems that I can give you. I was in your situation as well. I just got accepted to a Top 15 pharmacy school in the country (University of Tennessee) with a worse undergraduate GPA so you can look at me as an example.I went to graduate school and did well though, and med school is tougher to get into, but with my advice I think you have a shot. 3.3 GPA is definitely not the end of the world.
1) Find a research professor at your university and work on a project with him as an undergraduate - Schools love this. There is nothing like practical application of what you are learning about as a science major. Also it shows that you are able to handle your time effectively doing extra while still handling your course load. It makes you very knowledgeable on the subject you work on as well as allows you to work with other smart, dedicated students. Word to the wise, many professors just see you as free labor in their lab. They will use you, but use them back. Get to know them and work hard and they will write you great letters of rec...these are very important as admissions officers look highly upon these.
2) Do well on your MCAT (at least a 27) - To get into top med schools, you should be lookign at least for a 30-33...but as an African American male i think a 27 gives a shot at many good med schools around the country, while maybe not being a top tier. I dont know how well you did in pre reqs, but a solid understanding of chemistry (gen chem to orgo 2) and simple physics is huge. I had bad grades, but i was a chemistry major and it wasnt that I didnt know my stuff. I was just too busy playing basketball and chasing bytches. I am very good with chemistry so the PCAT was a breeze for me. Study in a disciplined manner for at least 2 months and if you arent getting concepts THEN you need to look for outside help. This is an investment that very well could put you over the top. Practice tests are important too...take the ones that the MCAT people themselves put out.
3) Shadow a physician, or other healthcare person - ask your doctor, work in a pharmacy, get a hospital job as a mover...something that can show the guys in admissions that you know what you will be getting into.
4) Extracurriculars - Touched on this before but they like seeing students involved. Especially if you can lock down a leadership position in a club or something. Find a job. You want to show them that you can handle the med school grind and have good time management skills. Volunteer in the community. Doesnt have to be anything major, but be able to talk about things when asked what you did.
Hope this helps. Your advisor is an a$$hole. Again I dont know your major, or what classes you took and what your grades were...but a 3.3 GPA is not bad at all. Ask me anything, im good with chem and bio and can point you in the right directions as far as study materials if you are serious. I was in the top 94 percentile for the PCAT (99% chem and 99% bio sections...i ran out of time on the last section which was quantitative and just chose C for like 20 questions
) and i plan on taking the MCAT maybe sometime next year. If i do well i'll consider med school over pharmacy. just keep grinding and take studying for the MCAT very seriously. Hard workers make good grades...people who understand concepts do well on the MCAT and PCAT.
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BlvdBrawler
Superstar
The dean of the college of engineering told me I'd never graduate and something about dancing on my grave (I think, I don't remember it was a while ago).
Fucc him. It's your life, your journey. You will definitely fail if you don't try. Your GPA isn't great but it will be fine by the time you graduate. I say use it as motivation.
Fucc him. It's your life, your journey. You will definitely fail if you don't try. Your GPA isn't great but it will be fine by the time you graduate. I say use it as motivation.
Start. Reverse psychology can sometimes prove more helpful than being a kind believer.
This reminds me of a time back in middle school. My teacher told me and my mom I made her embarrassed to be black. But here I am now, going to start a new job in January, I'm single, healthy, handsome, educated and I have no kids. 
When I eventually get my Porsche Cayman next year (
) I'm going to drive it by my old middle school and wait for her big breasted black mammy ass after school. She'll probably titty fukk me right in the parking lot. 
I say that to say this. fukkem. When you get your doctorate or whatever you're trying to get, swing by the school in full doc gear, take out your dikk and just lay it on his shoulder. He should get to sucking.
When I eventually get my Porsche Cayman next year (
) I'm going to drive it by my old middle school and wait for her big breasted black mammy ass after school. She'll probably titty fukk me right in the parking lot. I say that to say this. fukkem. When you get your doctorate or whatever you're trying to get, swing by the school in full doc gear, take out your dikk and just lay it on his shoulder. He should get to sucking.
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BlvdBrawler
Superstar
We were talking about "how long a product or system should last" and I (in the mindest of a computer scientist) said something like a few years. He brought up the fact that the building we were in was over 200 years old. I don't remember what I said but it was probably ignorant implying he was wrong and shortsighted (I was 17
) and his response was something about dancing on my grave after the people in the 3 year old building I designed died. He wasn't really very professional.I made sure to
at him on graduation day.
I was told by a White advisor that based on a "profile" they ran, that I wouldn't finish school (I'd just got there). I finished and went on to get a Master's. Don't take the discouragement to heart, use it as motivation. There are always people who were told not to bother, who end up succeeding. Some people just have the fortitude to be the exception to the rule, if that's what it takes. 
Mr Uncle Leroy
All Star
from what I hear medical school is very competitive
just do well in anything you want to accomplish
Pre med advisors may know a thing or two of value but most of them don't have a comprehensive understanding of the process so you have to take what they say with a grain of salt. Based on what you said about yourself so far I think your advisor is clearly wrong in saying you aren't good enough. That just doesn't make any sense. The average GPA for matriculants is 3.67 so clearly there are people above and below that GPA who get admitted, including those with a 3.3.
If you made striaght A's here on out you will have a gpa of 3.65 which is very competitive. The thing is though, as an advisor, he probably has enough experience to know that this very rarely ever happens. If you've been consistently making a 3.3 for the first two years then it would actually be irresponsible of him to let you think you have a decent chance of making straight 4.0's here on out. It's just statistically unlikely so he's giving you advice based on you having a 3.3 gpa when it comes time to apply, not a 3.65. But even so, he is still giving you bad advice because people with 3.3's get in every year.
The only reason I can think of why he would be so harsh on you is because he knows it'll be a very hard uphill battle for you. Even if you have a 3.67 GPA, you still need a competitive MCAT (31), solid EC's, LOR's, and depending on the school you may need research experience. People with a GPA of 3.3 are a lot more likely to get in if there's something else on their app to make up for it. Like if they get a 35 MCAT that would possibly make up for the low GPA. Or maybe if you've done a ton of research and have amazing leadership skills then you could make up for it that way. So until he see's something on your app that makes up for the low GPA, he can only assume you won't get in.
But still, the fact that you're black changes everything. I don't know the average GPA for black applicants but its probably something like 3.40 and the average MCAT would be lower too so you have that going for you.
I'd say chase your dreams if you really want it. Only you know what you're capable of doing. Just realize that at the rate you're going now (assuming you've consistently made a 3.3 every semester) it's going to be hard to get in.
Agree'd 100%. Do not consider caribbean an option. You would be gambling with you're entire career. It would suck to go to a school knowing only 60% of graduates land a U.S. residency spot. And that's even if you graduate. Only half the people that start in those schools even graduate. Whereas 95% of students at U.S. schools graduate.
Change your major to engineering and take the prerequisites.
Engineering > all other , to make you more competetive .
Engineering > all other , to make you more competetive .
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
i dont think people understand what the caribbean option means, there is a shortage of medical schools in the US, a lot of people dont get in, if you dont the caribbean is the only other option, the other option is giving up on your dreams of being a doctor
im not even saying its good or bad, all the stats concerning caribbean medical schools are correct, which means anybody considering them needs to be very careful and do a lot of research, but telling somebody not to consider the caribbean is the same difference as an advisor telling somebody to give up on their dreams
No, the other option is to apply two or three times to multiple MD and DO programs across the country. The caribbean is not an option and me and killer instinct have already said why multiple time.
I think the problem is that you think people should chase their dreams to the end of the earth. You're not considering the other option. The other option being that people can look elsewhere and develop more realistic dreams. If I want to be a hollywood star, does it make sense for me to chase that dream till the end of the earth, even if it means I may ruin my life in the process if I fail? If someone can't get accepted to a US medical school, their next option should be PA, dental school, or a whole nother career. Sometimes you have to crush people's dreams. Oh well that's reality.