My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[I.V.]

Exactly. We are in a position to do that over the upcoming years. '17 Draft is supposed to be deep. I think we can find talent in the mid-to-late first round and second round. I think we have excellent overseas scouting and a strong D-League program. Two of Milwaukee's best players were taken 15th and 39th overall.

Here's the thing: The Bucks have proven they can spot starting-to-star level talent in the middle of the first and in the second.

The Knicks have not. The knicks have not drafted anyone near Middleton's level outside of the lottery, let alone Giannis. The knicks have also proven they are just as likely to make lose trades as they are to win, and just as likely to make horrific signings as they are to make smart ones.

The bucks have an action plan, aimed at the future, and they are executing. The Knicks have wavered often from their plan for the future, and are prone to deviating in truly awful fashion.

Anointing KP the future this early is premature.

By the virtue of his being our best player over the next 3-10 years... he is the future.

At this point, what does he do differently than Melo?

He is currently the superior outside shooter. He rebounds better, and blocks four times as many shots, while holding opposing players to much lower shooting percentages.


Right now he's an inefficient outside shooter.

Who rebounds and blocks the 6th most shots int he league and runs the floor? Who is shooting 36% from 3?

I want him to be the guy...but...you gotta give us more at 7 feet than floating around the perimeter.

He is doing a lot more than floating outside the perimeter, and I think your recent "KP hasn't improved" talking points are poorly researched, and poorly deployed.

We agree on a lot of things, but your recent souring on Porzingis in his second year is rooted in almost zero facts.

 

[Trip]

Porzingis is an elite rim protector, he and Embiid are tied for first in opponent FG% at the rim. You can build a defense around him with the right pieces, nevermind the offense stuff he's in the Rudy Gobert class as far as guarding the rim goes.

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Here's the thing: The Bucks have proven they can spot starting-to-star level talent in the middle of the first and in the second.

The Knicks have not. The knicks have not drafted anyone near Middleton's level outside of the lottery, let alone Giannis. The knicks have also proven they are just as likely to make lose trades as they are to win, and just as likely to make horrific signings as they are to make smart ones.

The bucks have an action plan, aimed at the future, and they are executing. The Knicks have wavered often from their plan for the future, and are prone to deviating in truly awful fashion.





He is doing a lot more than floating outside the perimeter, and I think your recent "KP hasn't improved" talking points are poorly researched, and poorly deployed.

We agree on a lot of things, but your recent souring on Porzingis in his second year is rooted in almost zero facts.

 

[Trip]

Here's the thing: The Bucks have proven they can spot starting-to-star level talent in the middle of the first and in the second.

The Knicks have not. The knicks have not drafted anyone near Middleton's level outside of the lottery, let alone Giannis. The knicks have also proven they are just as likely to make lose trades as they are to win, and just as likely to make horrific signings as they are to make smart ones.

The bucks have an action plan, aimed at the future, and they are executing. The Knicks have wavered often from their plan for the future, and are prone to deviating in truly awful fashion.





He is doing a lot more than floating outside the perimeter, and I think your recent "KP hasn't improved" talking points are poorly researched, and poorly deployed.

We agree on a lot of things, but your recent souring on Porzingis in his second year is rooted in almost zero facts.

Down across the board besides scoring:

Box Score Geeks - NBA Statistics for Kristaps Porzingis and Articles featuring Kristaps Porzingis

 

[ikbm]

Down across the board besides scoring:

Box Score Geeks - NBA Statistics for Kristaps Porzingis and Articles featuring Kristaps Porzingis

more numbers with zero context
i know you saw it the first time...so imma repost it again...hardheaded ass dude

 

[I.V.]

Down across the board besides scoring:

Box Score Geeks - NBA Statistics for Kristaps Porzingis and Articles featuring Kristaps Porzingis

You're using per48's to lower his totals, but his minutes are up, which is a huge deal.

He's raised his 3pt% by 7 whole points to 40, and raised his FG% by another 3 points. He's scoring more while LOWERING his usage rate and raising his true shooting %.

His offense is up across the board, and he is blocking more shots, and lowering opponents FG% at the rim.

Per 48 inflates the numbers of somebody who played fewer minutes,and also discounts the fact that the Knicks have KP on the floor for

He has raised his minutes by 20%, and INCREASED efficiency on the offensive end, raised his 3pt to 40% while still providing elite level defending at the rim. That is unheard of.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Oh what are we supposed to do, the Knicks are trash, we have no future, we shouldn't even make the playoffs. Every other team's front office is more competent than us

 

[Trip]

You're using per48's to lower his totals, but his minutes are up, which is a huge deal.

He's raised his 3pt% by 7 whole points to 40, and raised his FG% by another 3 points. He's scoring more while LOWERING his usage rate and raising his true shooting %.

His offense is up across the board, and he is blocking more shots, and lowering opponents FG% at the rim.

Per 48 inflates the numbers of somebody who played fewer minutes,and also discounts the fact that the Knicks have KP on the floor for

He has raised his minutes by 20%, and INCREASED efficiency on the offensive end, raised his 3pt to 40% while still providing elite level defending at the rim. That is unheard of.

Believe everything is down per 36 as well besides scoring

 

[Malta]

Down across the board besides scoring:

Box Score Geeks - NBA Statistics for Kristaps Porzingis and Articles featuring Kristaps Porzingis

His shooting numbers are up, did you really expect him to be able to ramp up production while becoming more of a focal point of opposing defenses?


His 2nd year numbers are right in line with what young bigs do the 2nd time around, his 3rd or 4th season you should see an even bigger jump as he gets stronger.

 

[Trip]

His shooting numbers are up, did you really expect him to be able to ramp up production while becoming more of a focal point of opposing defenses?


His 2nd year numbers are right in line with what young bigs do the 2nd time around, his 3rd or 4th season you should see an even bigger jump as he gets stronger.

Fair enough. Hope so.

 

[Malta]

Fair enough. Hope so.

He's one of the elite young talents in the league, the top 5 in no order are -

Giannis
Davis
Embiid
KAT
Porzingis

Those 5 dudes are head and shoulders better than the other players in their age range, and Kristaps/Embiid are in a class of their own as far as rim protection goes. You have a Gobert level rim protector that can hit threes, that is an otherworldly talent.

 

[Trip]

He's one of the elite young talents in the league, the top 5 in no order are -

Giannis
Davis
Embiid
KAT
Porzingis

Those 5 dudes are head and shoulders better than the other players in their age range, and Kristaps/Embiid are in a class of their own as far as rim protection goes. You have a Gobert level rim protector that can hit threes, that is an otherworldly talent.

Giannis, Davis and Towns are on a completely other level than current Emid and Porzingis imo.

Embid hasnt played a whole lot yet though.

 

[Malta]

Giannis, Davis and Towns are on a completely other level than current Emid and Porzingis imo.

Embid hasnt played a whole lot yet though.

Towns is one of the worst defensive centers in the league, he's not on a different level than either of them when you add defense into the equation. He's actually been worse than them this season, doesn't matter how much Embiid has played, the Sixers literally have the best defense in the league when he's on the floor.

 

[ikbm]

dude really just now compared davis and giannis...dudes who been in the league for 2 and 3 more years(3 in ad's case)... 2 more years of honing skill and weight training....to porzingis...who's in his second year and embiid who's literally just now playing his first season.
kat isnt even all that far ahead of kp...he just has a more polished game in the post...partially due to his body type.
kp is farther than him defensively easily
@Malta ol boy literally doesnt know anything it took only you to talk sense into him...when for several pages everyone else broke it down.

 

[Trip]

Towns is one of the worst defensive centers in the league, he's not on a different level than either of them when you add defense into the equation. He's actually been worse than them this season, doesn't matter how much Embiid has played, the Sixers literally have the best defense in the league when he's on the floor.

What position is Porzingis- stretch 4?

 

[Wargames]

What position is Porzingis- stretch 4?

Stretch 5 who plays like a SF