My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread
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Let's keep it very simple...
Phil did not become captain of this ship right before it hit the iceberg...
Phil became captain of the Titanic after it hit multiple icebergs in the last decade and the bottom cabins had already been flooding and the nose of the ship was already submerged.
We have had losing seasons, absolutely.
However, as @I.V. used to argue, and I now admit I was on the wrong end of those arguments, it's about our future prospects.
And w/ Porzingis and Hernangomez, as well as the gambles of Kuzminskas, O ' Quinn and Lance Thomas - he has actually done a lot with few resources in establishing some stable future for this franchise.
I will still, as a fan, believe in playing hard to give fans a show, but the trading away J.R and Shump and other moves (Chandler/Felton) to low key sabotage the season and going from treadmill team to lottery team has actually worked in our favor.
Let me push the envelope... An argument can actually be had that Phil's 2 years (possibly 3 this year) of making a strategically bottom feeding team has had more success in a considerably less time than the 76ers egregious "trust the process" lottery strategy.
I want us to succeed this year, but Phil is still trying to remove excess water from our sinking ship and if he gambled with a "could be a good team but most likely another lottery" strategy, I'm looking forward to the pick and above average prospect scouting in the next draft.
The biggest problem with Phil... his adherence to the Triangle. When you look at this Knick team...we actually could be formidable if they let these players play their game with Hornacek's schemes.
I mean if we were a primarily pick and roll team with guys like Rose, Jennings, Noah, Porzingis, and O 'Quinn... that's some potential. (I left Melo out of the PnR equation intentionally)
Thoughts?
Phil did not become captain of this ship right before it hit the iceberg...
Phil became captain of the Titanic after it hit multiple icebergs in the last decade and the bottom cabins had already been flooding and the nose of the ship was already submerged.
We have had losing seasons, absolutely.
However, as @I.V. used to argue, and I now admit I was on the wrong end of those arguments, it's about our future prospects.
And w/ Porzingis and Hernangomez, as well as the gambles of Kuzminskas, O ' Quinn and Lance Thomas - he has actually done a lot with few resources in establishing some stable future for this franchise.
I will still, as a fan, believe in playing hard to give fans a show, but the trading away J.R and Shump and other moves (Chandler/Felton) to low key sabotage the season and going from treadmill team to lottery team has actually worked in our favor.
Let me push the envelope... An argument can actually be had that Phil's 2 years (possibly 3 this year) of making a strategically bottom feeding team has had more success in a considerably less time than the 76ers egregious "trust the process" lottery strategy.
I want us to succeed this year, but Phil is still trying to remove excess water from our sinking ship and if he gambled with a "could be a good team but most likely another lottery" strategy, I'm looking forward to the pick and above average prospect scouting in the next draft.
The biggest problem with Phil... his adherence to the Triangle. When you look at this Knick team...we actually could be formidable if they let these players play their game with Hornacek's schemes.
I mean if we were a primarily pick and roll team with guys like Rose, Jennings, Noah, Porzingis, and O 'Quinn... that's some potential. (I left Melo out of the PnR equation intentionally)
Thoughts?
Also, can we discuss rotation for a minute?
I agree with the starting line up of Rose, Lee, Melo, Porzingis, Noah.
But by the 7-8 minute mark, I want O'Quinn in the game and Porzingis subbed out unless Por is balling out.
With 2-4 minutes left in the 1st, I want Porzingis back in w/ Hernangomez and Jennings and ride out the 2nd unit until Melo comes back in somewhere mid 2nd qt.
In the last 8 minutes of close games, it should be back to the starting line up barring foul trouble & who's balling.
As many of you said, we need to stagger our offense anchors. Not only that, Porzingis helping the 2nd unit out on defense is much needed also. (Look at the cavs game where we were competitive until our bench came in)
I agree with the starting line up of Rose, Lee, Melo, Porzingis, Noah.
But by the 7-8 minute mark, I want O'Quinn in the game and Porzingis subbed out unless Por is balling out.
With 2-4 minutes left in the 1st, I want Porzingis back in w/ Hernangomez and Jennings and ride out the 2nd unit until Melo comes back in somewhere mid 2nd qt.
In the last 8 minutes of close games, it should be back to the starting line up barring foul trouble & who's balling.
As many of you said, we need to stagger our offense anchors. Not only that, Porzingis helping the 2nd unit out on defense is much needed also. (Look at the cavs game where we were competitive until our bench came in)
JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
No one has even mentioned that we have all our draft picks on top of picking up KP, Hernangomez and Kuzminskas
nomoreneveragain
Superstar
Good for him. He deserves it.
storyteller
Superstar
at the most sensible beat writer we had being gone.
Congrats to Chris.
He always tried to be objective as possible and it helped that he wasn't a Knick fan.
Now we have to see Isola and Berman crowding the bleacher report feed up again. fukk....
He always tried to be objective as possible and it helped that he wasn't a Knick fan.
Now we have to see Isola and Berman crowding the bleacher report feed up again. fukk....
Ironman
#Knickstape
FOH
FOH
Two players who have done literally nothing do not point to Phil knowing what he's doing.
He looks like he's in much better shape, he gained two pounds in weight, but his body composition looks like he lost a decent amount of body fat while gaining some muscle.
I don't think he needs to gain much weight right now, he's locked into being a power forward for the next few years, let him gain weight naturally and over a few years. In 2-3 years he'll naturally be up to around 250-255 as he starts to make the transition to playing center.
GetInTheTruck
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fukk the NBA for having us open against the champs. fukk kind of bullshyt is that.
