My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[K-ZOE]

The offense is gonna come. If these cats don't learn how to defend they will miss the playoffs again

I think Phil signed Noah for his passing at the 5 spot and his leadership ability. I dunno that's a lot of dough for that. I hope he just needs to get back in game shape. I'ma give him 25 games to get his shyt together before I start calling for his head. But the Chicago dudes posts got me

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Cats in here already freaking out and hopin Phil leaves.

 

[DirtyD]

Cats in here already freaking out and hopin Phil leaves.

Phil has been here for two seasons and this team has been shyt for both,I'm not saying I want him gone, but is it really that unfair for fans to have a negative view of his tenure?

 

[JMurder]

Phil has been here for two seasons and this team has been shyt for both,I'm not saying I want him gone, but is it really that unfair for fans to have a negative view of his tenure?

Yeah actually

 

[DirtyD]

Yeah actually

Explain why if you don't mind.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Explain why if you don't mind.

We got a very good prospect for the future in porzingis. He has built our d league team up. Got us a very good coach. I mean he started with shyt on his plate.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Cats still overreacting to 1 game.

 

[JMurder]

Explain why if you don't mind.

Because the Knicks have inarguably been set up for the brightest future that's it's had in over a decade

 

[GhostoftheMan]

there was a lot to be desired but it was one game . if 20 games in they still playing like trash then you can panic

 

[storyteller]

Explain why if you don't mind.

Phil inherited a dumpster fire and led off by saying it'd be years before he could implement everything he wanted (this is important imo, understanding that it's a process to build something sustainable over short term hype). There are obvious mistakes, the Chandler deal could have been a lot better (especially if he takes Crowder) and I'm not optimistic about the Noah deal at that length and amount; but there are also moves that he made with the long term in mind. He's been manufacturing cap space and building incrementally since letting the squad bottom out, but the two things that keep him promising are that he's managed to preserve enough cap space to keep adding to the core each offseason so far and he's managed to add youth in a period where most of our picks were dealt before he even got in. So we've got all our future 1st round picks, a much younger roster than when he began, one of the most promising young players in the league and near max cap space for the second consecutive year. He basically bottomed the team out, improved them from unwatchable to bad and now they should fall anywhere from mediocre to pretty good this season but with multiple avenues to improve the team and a few players locked in that can develop and grow. In a lot of places, that's not a great endorsement at all, but having witnessed Layden, Thomas and Grunwald throw away picks and cap space so recklessly; he's easily the best GM we've had in a long while and the team's direction is positive imo.

 

[Typical Knicks Fan]

I want to know when Knick fans will get on KP for only gaining two pounds in the off season. He was getting pushed around whenever he attempted to get post position.

 

[storyteller]

I want to know when Knick fans will get on KP for only gaining two pounds in the off season. He was getting pushed around whenever he attempted to get post position.

That depends really; because in the preseason you could see the leg strength manifested in the fact that he was finishing better near the basket and still had legs to launch threes later in games than last season. So it was clear he put some work in but the weight gain is definitely disappointing. That said, it's better than a Ben Simmons situation where he packs on a ton of weight and his lower body suffers because of it.

 

[DirtyD]

Because the Knicks have inarguably been set up for the brightest future that's it's had in over a decade

This isn't really saying much when you consider the teams performance for a decade, but agree to disagree.

Phil inherited a dumpster fire and led off by saying it'd be years before he could implement everything he wanted (this is important imo, understanding that it's a process to build something sustainable over short term hype). There are obvious mistakes, the Chandler deal could have been a lot better (especially if he takes Crowder) and I'm not optimistic about the Noah deal at that length and amount; but there are also moves that he made with the long term in mind. He's been manufacturing cap space and building incrementally since letting the squad bottom out, but the two things that keep him promising are that he's managed to preserve enough cap space to keep adding to the core each offseason so far and he's managed to add youth in a period where most of our picks were dealt before he even got in. So we've got all our future 1st round picks, a much younger roster than when he began, one of the most promising young players in the league and near max cap space for the second consecutive year. He basically bottomed the team out, improved them from unwatchable to bad and now they should fall anywhere from mediocre to pretty good this season but with multiple avenues to improve the team and a few players locked in that can develop and grow. In a lot of places, that's not a great endorsement at all, but having witnessed Layden, Thomas and Grunwald throw away picks and cap space so recklessly; he's easily the best GM we've had in a long while and the team's direction is positive imo.

That's all I was trying to say.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

One game against the best front running team in the NBA. Knicks will be fine, I saw some things I liked. That 2-guard by committee though gonna be interesting to see how that plays out.

Knicks will make the playoffs, I don't have much doubt about that.

 

[storyteller]

This isn't really saying much when you consider the teams performance for a decade, but agree to disagree.



That's all I was trying to say.

The rest of that paragraph is to say, taking a negative view of the tenure is magnifying the mistakes and ignoring a lot of positives that coincided with 'em. Which is why it can be viewed as unfair.