My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Gallo]

Bullshyt. It isn't about "giving them props" it's your clear dismissal of the beauty that came out of the uniqueness of the older neighborhoods. You rather obscure my point as a thinking of race too much in a discussion where YOU introduced race. Congrats...but your " preference" didn't create the beauty of three neighborhoods you dress up as Shangri-la in a box of gentrification.

Don't backpeddle on your initial point. There's nothing unique about these new enclaves you're casting like it comes with a set of 1853 issued freedom papers. Nothing distinct about each of them that i saw in their respective cities in the past. Enjoy eating at McDonalds that you call different because they're hundreds of miles apart.

You sound like a Hip Hop curmudgeon who gets bent out of shape when someone gives props to a contemporary rapper - "Lil Wayne is the best rapper out right now" Then here you come out of nowhere like "What about RAKIM!!! He birthed they whole style"

fukk those older neighborhoods and what they created - that's a different conversation. I was comparing Williamsburg to other CURRENT NYC neighborhoods quality of life.

And yes I introduced race. However, it was in the context of wanting others to enjoy everything the neighborhood had to offer. You made it into something else entirely.

 

[Gallo]

were the shins good? cause i saw them in their prime and it was merely to me live even though i loved the band. did mercer's hissy fit actually accomplish something?

They were pretty mediocre. Mercer came out for a solo acoustic encore at the end and me and my girl decided to leave.

At least I got to hear my favorite song...

Clap clap clap clap clap clap Whoooooo!!!

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

@NYC Rebel is the self appointed gatekeeper of all things BK.

 

[NYC Rebel]

@NYC Rebel is the self appointed gatekeeper of all things BK.

Interesting how my points have turned into me being a self appointed "gatekeeper" or some hip hip curmudgeon.

Y'all can't help but label niqqas in order to make a point, which you haven't.

Unlike some of you herbs, I've experienced both worlds, new and old. The ones claiming everything is "beautiful" and what's right never lived in the old ones to compare. They rather tell you how crime ridden things were without them being there to offer change. I'm almost certain Gina is CTK. He started on that crap from jump in this thread, limited the make up of the old neighborhood as hanging out on the corner and citing crime statistics.

Don't label me if you have no point. I find nothing special about these new enclaves that I very much have been a part of as well.

Your ass is still scared to go into 95 South.

 

[flea]

Interesting how my points have turned into me being a self appointed "gatekeeper" or some hip hip curmudgeon.

Y'all can't help but label niqqas in order to make a point, which you haven't.

Unlike some of you herbs, I've experienced both worlds, new and old. The ones claiming everything is "beautiful" and what's right never lived in the old ones to compare. They rather tell you how crime ridden things were without them being there to offer change. I'm almost certain Gina is CTK. He started on that crap from jump in this thread, limited the make up of the old neighborhood as hanging out on the corner and citing crime statistics.

Don't label me if you have no point. I find nothing special about these new enclaves that I very much have been a part of as well.

Your ass is still scared to go into 95 South.

Gina is indeed CTK

 

[NYC Rebel]

Gina is indeed CTK

Ok "he's the self appointed gatekeeper of bk" ass niqqa.

I don't ind anything special about these new neighborhoods popping up. It's the same shyt place to place. These are dudes who know nothing about leaving NYC and being in places like DC and other spots that varied so different from each other.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Interesting how my points have turned into me being a self appointed "gatekeeper" or some hip hip curmudgeon.

Y'all can't help but label niqqas in order to make a point, which you haven't.

Unlike some of you herbs, I've experienced both worlds, new and old. The ones claiming everything is "beautiful" and what's right never lived in the old ones to compare. They rather tell you how crime ridden things were without them being there to offer change. I'm almost certain Gina is CTK. He started on that crap from jump in this thread, limited the make up of the old neighborhood as hanging out on the corner and citing crime statistics.

Don't label me if you have no point. I find nothing special about these new enclaves that I very much have been a part of as well.

Your ass is still scared to go into 95 South.

When nikkas make points that don't coincide with your preconceived narrative YOU label + dismiss them as "newbies". But then you act incensed when nikkas don't give you the respect/courtesy you refuse to show ANYBODY. fukk outta here

 

[NYC Rebel]

When nikkas make points that don't coincide with your preconceived narrative YOU label + dismiss them as "newbies". But then you act incensed when nikkas don't give you the respect/courtesy you refuse to show ANYBODY. fukk outta here

Nah. I pretty much address your limited scope of how things were and broaden out exactly how ignorant you are of things prior.

Nothing about you being there now is new to me. Just don't get upset that I don't find anything special about the make up of these new enclaves I also existed in. Everything wasn't "crime" or hanging on the corner before you sauntered into the area. I call you an ARROGANT and ignorant newbie.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You sound like a Hip Hop curmudgeon who gets bent out of shape when someone gives props to a contemporary rapper - "Lil Wayne is the best rapper out right now" Then here you come out of nowhere like "What about RAKIM!!! He birthed they whole style"

fukk those older neighborhoods and what they created - that's a different conversation. I was comparing Williamsburg to other CURRENT NYC neighborhoods quality of life.

And yes I introduced race. However, it was in the context of wanting others to enjoy everything the neighborhood had to offer. You made it into something else entirely.

It is relevant to the discussion when you get upset t blacks or Hispanics for having little interest in existing in those enclaves. You're the one saying it offers them the alternative to the good life.

fukk outta here.

 

[Gallo]

It is relevant to the discussion when you get upset t blacks or Hispanics for having little interest in existing in those enclaves. You're the one saying it offers them the alternative to the good life.

fukk outta here.

You seem upset that I don't share your vast experience or definition of what I consider "the good life"(beautiful vibrant streets, laid back, great restaurants/bars etc. for example). In the same manner you look at me with disdain for not having your breath of experienced in all those other awesome neighborhoods you mentioned, is the same way I look at the people I mentioned. Except not with disdain, more of an eagerness to want share the awesomeness of the place. I was also bit bit perplexed as to why not. But then again, maybe you just answered the question for me - perhaps most share your definition of "the good life," whatever that is, and its not a place like Williamsburg. Hence why they wouldn't find Williamsburg "special" or appealing and wouldn't want to go there. People should give it a try though, those that don't have your experience, they may find it "special" like me.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You seem upset that I don't share your vast experience or definition of what I consider "the good life"(beautiful vibrant streets, laid back, great restaurants/bars etc. for example). In the same manner you look at me with disdain for not having your breath of experienced in all those other awesome neighborhoods you mentioned, is the same way I look at the people I mentioned. Except not with disdain, more of an eagerness to want share the awesomeness of the place. I was also bit bit perplexed as to why not. But then again, maybe you just answered the question for me - perhaps most share your definition of "the good life," whatever that is, and its not a place like Williamsburg. Hence why they wouldn't find Williamsburg "special" or appealing and wouldn't want to go there. People should give it a try though, those that don't have your experience, they may find it "special" like me.

Pause...in the same manner I look at you in disdain?

When have i made that performance???

Is that what you've premised this retort with? I'm sorry....but I pointed out your "limited" experience. It's clear we don't share both experiences because clearly you haven't. How can you claim the "good life" doesn't come out of an experience you or CTK obviously never experienced?

You have no point of reference. Dog.....I DO. I've lived both experiences, and quite frankly, don't find what you say is the good life as unique, exciting or very interesting compared to being in black and hispanic enclaves throughout the country. They were distinctive, unique and more interesting to me.

But that's me having a point of view being on BOTH sides while you clearly have only been on one yet want so bad to front like your scope or range is broader.

I'm sorry...but I will never be negroe that's hard wired to say the white mans ice is colder if I've never had some from others. That seems to be a job you proudly announce.

Listen dog....I'm laid out on a beach in St. Lucia right now, and grew up around the warmth of the people here growing up around them in my old neighborhood. I loved my experience in old New York much more than what it later became in this boring transformation you deem as interesting.

Point blank, I have a broader perspective than you that you're either not willing to admit or obviously ignore

 

[concise]

If your neighborhood got citibike stations you know you made it

Interesting how my points have turned into me being a self appointed "gatekeeper" or some hip hip curmudgeon.

Y'all can't help but label niqqas in order to make a point, which you haven't.

Unlike some of you herbs, I've experienced both worlds, new and old. The ones claiming everything is "beautiful" and what's right never lived in the old ones to compare. They rather tell you how crime ridden things were without them being there to offer change. I'm almost certain Gina is CTK. He started on that crap from jump in this thread, limited the make up of the old neighborhood as hanging out on the corner and citing crime statistics.

Don't label me if you have no point. I find nothing special about these new enclaves that I very much have been a part of as well.

Your ass is still scared to go into 95 South.

I'm scrolling through these latest posts, and I can just imagine dude typing out his response and a bright light flashed in his head right at that point like "this dude..."

You seem upset that I don't share your vast experience or definition of what I consider "the good life"(beautiful vibrant streets, laid back, great restaurants/bars etc. for example). In the same manner you look at me with disdain for not having your breath of experienced in all those other awesome neighborhoods you mentioned, is the same way I look at the people I mentioned. Except not with disdain, more of an eagerness to want share the awesomeness of the place. I was also bit bit perplexed as to why not. But then again, maybe you just answered the question for me - perhaps most share your definition of "the good life," whatever that is, and its not a place like Williamsburg. Hence why they wouldn't find Williamsburg "special" or appealing and wouldn't want to go there. People should give it a try though, those that don't have your experience, they may find it "special" like me.

Did you actually live through that era?

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm scrolling through these latest posts, and I can just imagine dude typing out his response and a bright light flashed in his head right at that point like "this dude..."

 

[NYC Rebel]

Did you actually live through that era?

Of course he didn't. Yet he has no problem prescribing those people (blacks and Latinos) that did and choose not to being around the williamsburg crowd as having a problem and not wanting "the good life."

It's pure arrogance....and clowns would rather focus on you calling them newbies and not how quickly they size up other people's experiences as crime ridden or less than there's.

It's littered all throughout this thread.

 

[Gallo]

Pause...in the same manner I look at you in disdain?

When have i made that performance???

Is that what you've premised this retort with? I'm sorry....but I pointed out your "limited" experience. It's clear we don't share both experiences because clearly you haven't. How can you claim the "good life" doesn't come out of an experience you or CTK obviously never experienced?

You have no point of reference. Dog.....I DO. I've lived both experiences, and quite frankly, don't find what you say is the good life as unique, exciting or very interesting compared to being in black and hispanic enclaves throughout the country. They were distinctive, unique and more interesting to me.

But that's me having a point of view being on BOTH sides while you clearly have only been on one yet want so bad to front like your scope or range is broader.

I'm sorry...but I will never be negroe that's hard wired to say the white mans ice is colder if I've never had some from others. That seems to be a job you proudly announce.

Listen dog....I'm laid out on a beach in St. Lucia right now, and grew up around the warmth of the people here growing up around them in my old neighborhood. I loved my experience in old New York much more than what it later became in this boring transformation you deem as interesting.

Point blank, I have a broader perspective than you that you're either not willing to admit or obviously ignore

Are you drunk? You gotta be. You're the king of non-squiturs. Is as if you didn't read where I said you may have a broader perspective and the like. However, ones limited perspective does not deem ones oppinion moot. If we are using your logic then no one would have an opinion as someone elses experiences will always be much broader than yours.

What if I told you that I lived in Harlem and the Upper East Side and hence I know New York very well? what if I told you that as a military man, I've lived in almost every continent for months - from deserts, to cities, to third worlds and first worlds? What if I told you I've been stationed and taken TDY in every part of America - south, midwest, west, east, etc? Would that make my opinion any more valid than yours? Of course not, as long as our opinions are reasoned. We have a difference of opinion on what constitutes a great neighborhood. Why do I have to like what you like? Should great restaurants not resonate as much with me? Would that make my opinion more valid? Why can't I like Williamsburg whites and why does doing so mean I am dismissing blacks or hispanics neighborhoods or love all white people? We're going by the reverse one drop rule? You like this white person so you must love them all lol? I am not going to dismiss a great neighborhood because whites live in it - I am not as bigoted as you. I think to how I would feel if a white/Asian etc dismissed a whole neighborhood as beautiful as Harlem(mt morris park and its brownstones, ccny, 125th etc.), a neighborhood that I am very fond of having grown up there for a significant portion of my life, simply because it had mostly blacks living in it. I would deem the person a racist.