My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[intruder]

Harlem and brooklyn looking like maine

time to get our money up.

 

[Francis White]

it just irks me when i see these f*cking hipsters because they basically coming from towns west and north of here with their money from mommy and daddy, jacking up the rent and forcing people that lived there for years OUT of town. i have a huge problem with that. these are the same people whose parents and grandparents did the whole white flight thing. they were told by their mommy and daddy to stay away from brooklyn because it was dangerous and were filled with black people who couldn't control themselves. all of a sudden, some kid has some balls to move to brooklyn where he basically takes over a block and some other kids do the same thing where they basically are cleaning out a neighborhood for them and people that are like them. if there's one thing that i've noticed, i've noticed that these hipsters are usually a bunch of white people that try to front like they're open minded but are in reality, ignorant as f*ck. that's my issue with them. you basically run the people that lived there for years so you can be trendy or whatever the f*ck. f*ck these hipsters.

Nice but incorrect, Nyc is where the jobs are, this is place people want to move too, no one wants to move to some hick town down south where there is no jobs. BK because it has been revived by business men who saw a wasted land and took a chance on bring it back. You say people who lived in that area all their life are being forced out. True but if those same people would have kept the area up, reported crime and stressed education among their kids and themselves, they would doing better. If you doing something besides working retail, security and crap jobs you can keep your place and be educated enough like the people in Cooper union did to unite and defeat the group that wanted their housing units. Don't hate people because they move into your area, it is a waste of time. People have to get up and progress, when people die someone else moves into the apartment. I lived in Astoria, and got priced out, i took a look in the mirror and saw that i was falling off, i knew the job i was at was a dead end, i took steps to improve my life and i live in a better place, everyone should do that and realize if you don't own your place, and if your area is trash and your landlord says i want these people out it will happen.

 

[Francis White]

Most niccas from the crack era are gone cause they got too old. Imagine being old as Sean Price still scaring white folk and still doing petty crime shyt?

the 90s babies of the black community are different and not want to be thugs anymore, thanks to Weezy and Obama. Guess that what Bloomberg wanted all along: NYC without the real street thugs.

Whoa hold up, you want blacks doing petty crime and going to jail? You want these kids not doing drugs and killing each other to do so to be "manly" in your eyes? Where is Kermit the hustler and Esau? Kermit made a point about how guys would show out and harm each other for the camera and run and help the whites move into to their apartments while they got records and limited futures, i am not down with that nonsense, you know how you scare whites? Success, being bright, not harming each other and putting others down who want do the same. That scares them more than anything negative because that is against the grain.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

it just irks me when i see these f*cking hipsters because they basically coming from towns west and north of here with their money from mommy and daddy, jacking up the rent and forcing people that lived there for years OUT of town. i have a huge problem with that. these are the same people whose parents and grandparents did the whole white flight thing. they were told by their mommy and daddy to stay away from brooklyn because it was dangerous and were filled with black people who couldn't control themselves. all of a sudden, some kid has some balls to move to brooklyn where he basically takes over a block and some other kids do the same thing where they basically are cleaning out a neighborhood for them and people that are like them. if there's one thing that i've noticed, i've noticed that these hipsters are usually a bunch of white people that try to front like they're open minded but are in reality, ignorant as f*ck. that's my issue with them. you basically run the people that lived there for years so you can be trendy or whatever the f*ck. f*ck these hipsters.

Nobody is moving to the hood with "mommy and daddy" money

These kids want to live in NYC and move where they can afford to

If you don't want these people in your neighborhood, buy the buildings they move into and keep them from moving in. And then get hit with a lawsuit for violating the equal opportunity housing laws that were put in place to protect people like you and I from the very same discrimination you are looking to carry out.

You have got to be fukking kidding me

Who would move to a neighborhood with high crime and people who didn't want them there if they had a choice???? People who insist these kids are moving to the hood because its the cool thing to do are not very bright

 

[john goodman]

Plenty of people move to bushwick because its cool, happens everyday

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

People complain about the hood being white washed.... but look at Chinatown. Those motherfukkers came, got their money up, bought their buildings, and own their neighborhood. They got skrenfh. We should have been building that strength over the last few decades.

 

[Francis White]

People complain about the hood being white washed.... but look at Chinatown. Those motherfukkers came, got their money up, bought their buildings, and own their neighborhood. They got skrenfh. We should have been building that strength over the last few decades.

Most intelligent post so far.

 

[Broke Wave]

People complain about the hood being white washed.... but look at Chinatown. Those motherfukkers came, got their money up, bought their buildings, and own their neighborhood. They got skrenfh. We should have been building that strength over the last few decades.

The Chinese bought up Chinatowns 100 years ago, and most of the Chinese that moved to the big cities had 2 things that blacks didn't have

1. The Chinese who came to The US/Canada are the ones usually with some money. How else do you think they left China?

2. The ones who didn't have money came together during the railroad, and connected with the ones who did have money thereby congregating in big cities to create Chinese communities. Can't compare this to African Americans, who were slaves and actively abused by the system moreseo than the Chinese, who were left to their own devices.

 

[philmonroe]

The hood is the worst place to be Black. I was in the hood last night and the whole time I felt like a sitting duck. Not a hot look at all, breh.

Disagree maybe you just look or have a chump vibe about you. Even suckers will try to pick on somebody they think they can get away with it.

 

[Trip]

Is Manhattan the New Brooklyn (Again)? -- Daily Intel

NY is becoming a hipster haven.

I try not to think about it.

Its amazing how many females I know from high school that live in the city, work in "marketing " and have a 2k rent apt. Jackin up rent and shyt because their parents pay for it. Hamptons when ever they want.

im hating

 

[Trip]

How the Hell am I trolling with the truth? People with money want to live in these areas. People without money need to leave where the demand for realestate is lower. Simple economics.

What I don't understand is how all of you people think there is some virtue or benefit to having large populations of poor, crime ridden slums in the middle of cities where people who work need to live in peace.

I don't get it.

if you are paying rent and living in Manhattan you are most likely not poor.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

The Chinese bought up Chinatowns 100 years ago, and most of the Chinese that moved to the big cities had 2 things that blacks didn't have

1. The Chinese who came to The US/Canada are the ones usually with some money. How else do you think they left China?

2. The ones who didn't have money came together during the railroad, and connected with the ones who did have money thereby congregating in big cities to create Chinese communities. Can't compare this to African Americans, who were slaves and actively abused by the system moreseo than the Chinese, who were left to their own devices.

The Chinese who came to NYC in the early 20th century came from the West Coast to escape discrimination and find work...

Chinese also are very big on saving $$$

Blacks who came to NYC during that period also came to find work and often did... as well as formed enclaves etc. We had the cards stacked against us, but a lot of our habits + cultural norms didn't help

 

[Broke Wave]

The Chinese who came to NYC in the early 20th century came from the West Coast to escape discrimination and find work...

Chinese also are very big on saving $$$

Blacks who came to NYC during that period also came to find work and often did... as well as formed enclaves etc. We had the cards stacked against us, but a lot of our habits + cultural norms didn't help

No evidence to suggest the bolded.

First of all its disingenuous for two immigrants of African descent to be talking about the cultural norms of African Americans in the early 20th/late19th century as if it were our own experience, so we should avoid that.

Secondly we're having a discussion about accrued capital and its effects on immigrant group success, so lets examine this. Black people moving north from former slave states had one thing in common with one another, and a big difference between them and the Chinese. I wonder if you can read between the lines.

 

[The Nigerian]

Disagree maybe you just look or have a chump vibe about you. Even suckers will try to pick on somebody they think they can get away with it.

This is what I look like on any given weekday save for Friday:

Nothing about me says, "Chump."

Even if did look like a chump, why would I live somewhere with such a high potential for violence? Not only that, but strong police activity as well, right down to cameras on every other street corner. It's a terrible place to be.

People don't even smile on the street. Everyone has the face. It's a soul crushing existence.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

No evidence to suggest the bolded.

Theres a lot of old Chinese savings banks in Chinatown. Country of China has a much higher saving rate than all of America, especially blacks. Not sure what evidence you need

First of all its disingenuous for two immigrants of African descent to be talking about the cultural norms of African Americans in the early 20th/late19th century as if it were our own experience, so we should avoid that.

How is someone of AA descent of our age any better equipped for the discussion? They are going from the same historic info and hearsay that we are

It is not like we (well me at least) don't have some level of deep interaction with African Americans either.

Secondly we're having a discussion about accrued capital and its effects on immigrant group success, so lets examine this. Black people moving north from former slave states had one thing in common with one another, and a big difference between them and the Chinese. I wonder if you can read between the lines.

How were the Chinese able to charter banks and buy property in a discriminatory environment similar to that of blacks at the time? They did not come to the East Coast with boatloads of capital, the majority of them came broke in search of work just like black people did. And there were black people accumulating wealth during this time as well. Am I arguing that the environments were comparable in difficulty? No, but at the same time it would not have been impossible for us to pool $$$$ and consolidate power, especially in the wake of the Civil Rights Act