My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Jone2three45]

I have a question, the blacks that are still living there now or the ones that were forced to move how do they feel about the scenery changing? Do they even care about the historical events of past Harlem? Do they support this new movement to keep the "bad blacks" out of the neighborhood?

 

[Luchini]

It's happening in Oakland too.

 

[Wild self]

Black folks are moving down south in packs, and been doing so for the last 25 years. Most cities in the Northeast are gonna turn to hipster centrals. At this point, there is nothing that we can do about it. Damage been done.

 

[Wild self]

I'm a Black/African-Canadian but here's my take:

Consolidate your power by moving to majority Black cities like Atlanta, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Birmingham, etc. where our people can control the economics and politics of those metro areas

Forgot about Houston and DC, but you right. NYC for black folks may be too late, despite the history up there. Might as well go to other places and start fresh.

 

[Carolina Slim]

Black folks are moving down south in packs, and been doing so for the last 25 years. Most cities in the Northeast are gonna turn to hipster centrals. At this point, there is nothing that we can do about it. Damage been done.

Word. There was an article I read somewhere about "reverse migration" for black folks, pulling up stakes in the north and moving south to places like Charlotte, Atlanta and living fat.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Brooklyn fought gentrification and lost. *basks in the glory of not seeing my old neighborhood turn into Brooklyn*

BX for the most part is gonna win out simply because it's impossible to jack up property values other than the waterfront (and that's really only around Alexander Ave. shyt, the River Park Towers is right by the Harlem River too. Doesn't mean they're gonna make prices higher). Ironically, we can thank a racist in Robert Moses for physically making it impossible to gentrify.

I still get my taxes done at the Sotomayor houses in fukkin Soundview and let me tell you, as a lifelong Bronxite, I'm still nervous as hell whenever I'm around there. A place such as that, hipsters and yuppies and investors wouldn't touch a place like that with a ten foot pole.

 

[ineedsleep212]

My father luckily bought the apartment building I live in so I've observed this throughout the last 12 years, but my father has seen it change much more having been in the area for like 30+ years. He could've bought this house that this old white guy tried to tell him to buy when my father was younger and didn't have a ton of money. Had he bought it, he probably could've sold it for at least a million now.

I feel like I took my neighborhood for granted and didn't realize what was around me. Now everything is changing and all I see are bars, wineries, ice cream shops and other stuff I never expected to see.

 

[Wild self]

Brooklyn fought gentrification and lost. *basks in the glory of not seeing my old neighborhood turn into Brooklyn*

BX for the most part is gonna win out simply because it's impossible to jack up property values other than the waterfront (and that's really only around Alexander Ave. shyt, the River Park Towers is right by the Harlem River too. Doesn't mean they're gonna make prices higher). Ironically, we can thank a racist in Robert Moses for physically making it impossible to gentrify.

I still get my taxes done at the Sotomayor houses in fukkin Soundview and let me tell you, as a lifelong Bronxite, I'm still nervous as hell whenever I'm around there. A place such as that, hipsters and yuppies and investors wouldn't touch a place like that with a ten foot pole.

Damn, that shyt sounds like a massive defeat. That's the south Bronx, but what about the NE Bronx/ Mt Vernon?

But black folk gotta take the L and move down south/ other places so that won't happen again.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

Harlem and brooklyn looking like maine

They want us out, it's only so long they gonna let the poorest people stay in the most expensive Zip codes.

It's sad that we never learned to take economic control of our neighborhoods, we never owned Harlem to begin with. We never had ownership of our businesses, stores, brownstones, buildings etc. It saddens me

 

[Sierra Mist]

That's how it should be. In every other country the wealthy live in the city and the poor people live in the suburbs. The only reason the reverse happened here is because the wealthy whites in the Cities didn't want to live near the wealthy blacks so they did white flight after integration popped off which left a lot of neighborhoods without business and infrastructure which then lead to urban decay. America will look like Brasil in a few years. All the wealthy people in the city and a few nearby suburbs and then all the broke people living outside of it separated by a big wall.

 

[MidniteJay]

I've been living in Prospect Heights since I was a 4-year-old.

at the transformation.

at coffeshops on Franklyn Avenue

Been a while since I've been up in New York. How Sterling Street lookin?

 

[chineebai]

That's how it should be. In every other country the wealthy live in the city and the poor people live in the suburbs. The only reason the reverse happened here is because the wealthy whites in the Cities didn't want to live near the wealthy blacks so they did white flight after integration popped off which left a lot of neighborhoods without business and infrastructure which then lead to urban decay. America will look like Brasil in a few years. All the wealthy people in the city and a few nearby suburbs and then all the broke people living outside of it separated by a big wall.

what country have you been to? lol

 

[Sierra Mist]

what country have you been to? lol

Quite a lot. The reason America is so different is because racism hurt the infrastructure. That's the reason gentrification exists in the first place. White people want to have the proximity of the city that they lost due to blockbusting, red lining white flight yada yada. I'm not talking about third world countries of course.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I strongly believe, if they didn't kill Malcom, it wouldn't be like this uptown..

 

[tremonthustler1]

Damn, that shyt sounds like a massive defeat. That's the south Bronx, but what about the NE Bronx/ Mt Vernon?

But black folk gotta take the L and move down south/ other places so that won't happen again.

There's always been nice areas in the Bronx though. NE Bronx, Riverdale, Country Club, Pelham, Morris Park, I hesitate to say Co-Op City, but them too. They live in their own world so I can't say how nice/bad it is there. If you live north of Gun Hill Road, you're most likely living aight. I remember driving locally to get to the NY State Thruway to get to Rye Playland, and I swear to you if that shyt wasn't so disconnected from the rest of the borough, let alone the city, I'd move. That's how nice and serene it is. All they got are houses, car dealerships, a 711, a McDonalds, the 5 train and a strip club.

That's how it should be. In every other country the wealthy live in the city and the poor people live in the suburbs. The only reason the reverse happened here is because the wealthy whites in the Cities didn't want to live near the wealthy blacks so they did white flight after integration popped off which left a lot of neighborhoods without business and infrastructure which then lead to urban decay. America will look like Brasil in a few years. All the wealthy people in the city and a few nearby suburbs and then all the broke people living outside of it separated by a big wall.

That's not what happened in the BX. If it wasn't for the godawful Cross Bronx Expressway, the Bronx would be Staten Island, white folks everywhere. It's all in the property value, and the BX simply has shytty property value. There's no worth in remodeling housing projects. The only way to do it is by tearing them down, all of them, because they're all enclosed, and that would kill off the neighborhoods because so many people live in those buildings.