My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Michael's Black Son]

Was in Crown Heights today on Utica. It didn't look like gentrification had hit too hard though I did note the affordable apartments being built up along Fulton St.

My family grew up around Franklin/Bedford but moved away a few years after my aunt passed. I recently started going back to the area and it's really headed in that next level gentrification shyt. I'm talking about $2500 two bedroom apts., new shops/restaurants (which is welcome), but the flavor of the area is just about gone. It doesn't "feel" the same any more

 

[Malik]

Most of the people that are flocking to the city don't work in the city, though. I knew tons of kids on their daddy's, who lives in Omaha, dime, tons of foreigners who use NYC as a vacation pad, and transplants opening up artisinal food places. I'm sure some people from other areas in the Tri-state are moving back to NYC but most of these people coming into the city didn't even live on the East coast, let alone the Northeast.

It's also more cultural than that. NYC has THE MOST public services and infrastructure in America (trains, parks, museums) and overall the most diversified culture. The irony is that there will be a tipping point where all the people who create the richness of that culture will be shunned. Someone else raised the issue as well, who are going to work at the McDonalds, Duane Reades, as janitors, and as delivery men. The commute for people who would at some point will make it not worth it and trust fund kids surely ain't. I suspect NYC is going to collapse 10-15 years out if this trend continues. Once it becomes apparent how vanilla and stale culturally NYC has become, it isn't there yet, and these conglomerate who have stores on every corner can't afford to provide a reasonable wage to their work forces, there will be another shift.

We have to start buying our own houses and starting our own businesses. It sounds cliche but if not, these hipsters who think it's edgy will always follow us into our neighborhoods, infiltrate, and stabilize it for Sally from North Dakota to come in and destroy it.

Minorities lost when it comes to New York. Take it as a learning experience and realize that ownership is key. New York is not the only city that Whites are going to try to take over. It's already reached the tipping point in D.C. Same exact game. Infiltrate a neighborhood, raise the rents, displace the old residents, infiltrate a new neighborhood, rinse, wash, repeat. Average apartment in D.C. is $1,897. DC is 50% Black, 39% White. Cranes all over the city. Game already over and UOENO.


Chicago too. It went through a crazy building boom in the 2000s. It's slowed down. And it's only the Northside that seems desirable/habitable to hipsters but, when that area gets full....all of the industrial buildings in the Westside and Southside are lofts waiting to happen.


The real place I think is next is Philadelphia though. Center City is the 3rd most populated downtown in America and this is with the city imposing a height limit on skyscrapers over the last 100 years. Now that the height limits are gone, I can see Center City growing and flourishing over the next few decades. The downtown/skyline is going to look like the Chicago Loop eventually The city is going to start looking attractive to people from the Midwest or the South who want an urban experience but, can't afford New York which will probably be even more exorbitant (price-wise) by then.. and even then, you're still a short train ride away. New York 2 hours up, Washington DC 2 hours down, Atlantic City 1 hour west, Poconos 2 hours east, Baltimore Harbor 1.5 hours down. In the next 30 years, high speed trains will close that New York train time to almost nothing. People are already doing this now but, by 2040 you'll see hoards of people taking advantage of the differences in cost of living by working in Lower Manhattan or on K Street but, living in Rittenhouse Square. If I had some money, I would buy multiple properties on the edge of Center City Philadelphia and just wait.

 

[mson]

Minorities lost when it comes to New York. Take it as a learning experience and realize that ownership is key. New York is not the only city that Whites are going to try to take over. It's already reached the tipping point in D.C. Same exact game. Infiltrate a neighborhood, raise the rents, displace the old residents, infiltrate a new neighborhood, rinse, wash, repeat. Average apartment in D.C. is $1,897. DC is 50% Black, 39% White. Cranes all over the city. Game already over and UOENO.


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A lot of black people own in NY though

 

[Wild self]

Minorities lost when it comes to New York. Take it as a learning experience and realize that ownership is key. New York is not the only city that Whites are going to try to take over. It's already reached the tipping point in D.C. Same exact game. Infiltrate a neighborhood, raise the rents, displace the old residents, infiltrate a new neighborhood, rinse, wash, repeat. Average apartment in D.C. is $1,897. DC is 50% Black, 39% White. Cranes all over the city. Game already over and UOENO.


Chicago too. It went through a crazy building boom in the 2000s. It's slowed down. And it's only the Northside that seems desirable/habitable to hipsters but, when that area gets full....all of the industrial buildings in the Westside and Southside are lofts waiting to happen.


The real place I think is next is Philadelphia though. Center City is the 3rd most populated downtown in America and this is with the city imposing a height limit on skyscrapers over the last 100 years. Now that the height limits are gone, I can see Center City growing and flourishing over the next few decades. The downtown/skyline is going to look like the Chicago Loop eventually The city is going to start looking attractive to people from the Midwest or the South who want an urban experience but, can't afford New York which will probably be even more exorbitant (price-wise) by then.. and even then, you're still a short train ride away. New York 2 hours up, Washington DC 2 hours down, Atlantic City 1 hour west, Poconos 2 hours east, Baltimore Harbor 1.5 hours down. In the next 30 years, high speed trains will close that New York train time to almost nothing. People are already doing this now but, by 2040 you'll see hoards of people taking advantage of the differences in cost of living by working in Lower Manhattan or on K Street but, living in Rittenhouse Square. If I had some money, I would buy multiple properties on the edge of Center City Philadelphia and just wait.

Yep. How can anyone build wealth in NY when 92% of them rent and not own any asset of any kind?

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Minorities lost when it comes to New York. Take it as a learning experience and realize that ownership is key. New York is not the only city that Whites are going to try to take over. It's already reached the tipping point in D.C. Same exact game. Infiltrate a neighborhood, raise the rents, displace the old residents, infiltrate a new neighborhood, rinse, wash, repeat. Average apartment in D.C. is $1,897. DC is 50% Black, 39% White. Cranes all over the city. Game already over and UOENO.

Chicago too. It went through a crazy building boom in the 2000s. It's slowed down. And it's only the Northside that seems desirable/habitable to hipsters but, when that area gets full....all of the industrial buildings in the Westside and Southside are lofts waiting to happen.

The real place I think is next is Philadelphia though. Center City is the 3rd most populated downtown in America and this is with the city imposing a height limit on skyscrapers over the last 100 years. Now that the height limits are gone, I can

some real talk right there.

i believe it because i see it/have seen it in NY happening at a mindblowing rate. i remember going to HS in Harlem before all the brownstones and shyt got bought up and no one wasn't trying to touch the area but not it seems like there are very few areas in the city that are off limits. Maybe the Bronx is since the ratchet level there is on some other shyt, but BK (other than East New York) is simply another place now, which isn't bad, but the lessons of ownership/education/renting are forcing minorities to learn it the hard way. If you wanna play ball here you need some real $$, a real job and a real plan or else you lost.

I'm looking for a crib right now and with these brokers, it's feasting season. 98% of them are dishonest, use the bait & switch and even tho youre doing all of the research online to find a crib, your still "supposed" to give them a fee for "finding" you a place, which is bullshyt.

that might be cool for an out of towner but they will give you a harder time if youre from here and know what area you want to live in

 

[Poitier]

Why are you so worried when you not even from here?

I have a theory that the real estate people influence the NYT to talk up these neighborhoods as up and coming to bring up the prices.

1. I lived there a good amount of time to has sentimentality to it
2. I'm Black and look out for my people of color
3. Tons of NYC transplants come in mass to Georgia. My HS graduating class was atleast 20% NYC transplants. It affects us down here.
4. I'd like to see Black people go from renting apartments and getting bye to actually owning things and running businesses. It's cheap enough to do that in the South.

A lot of black people own in NY though

Post some numbers.

 

[mson]

1. I lived there a good amount of time to has sentimentality to it
2. I'm Black and look out for my people of color
3. Tons of NYC transplants come in mass to Georgia. My HS graduating class was atleast 20% NYC transplants. It affects us down here.
4. I'd like to see Black people go from renting apartments and getting bye to actually owning things and running businesses. It's cheap enough to do that in the South.

A lot of people don't want to live in the south.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

We still have a chance brehs. Come down south brehs. Its so easy. Let those idiots up north struggle with all those crippling economic forces. Its a fool's game. You can come down south and be a homeowner on a $40K/yr income.

 

[Poitier]

A lot of black people own in NY though

That's your choice.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Minorities lost when it comes to New York. Take it as a learning experience and realize that ownership is key. New York is not the only city that Whites are going to try to take over. It's already reached the tipping point in D.C. Same exact game. Infiltrate a neighborhood, raise the rents, displace the old residents, infiltrate a new neighborhood, rinse, wash, repeat. Average apartment in D.C. is $1,897. DC is 50% Black, 39% White. Cranes all over the city. Game already over and UOENO.


Chicago too. It went through a crazy building boom in the 2000s. It's slowed down. And it's only the Northside that seems desirable/habitable to hipsters but, when that area gets full....all of the industrial buildings in the Westside and Southside are lofts waiting to happen.


The real place I think is next is Philadelphia though. Center City is the 3rd most populated downtown in America and this is with the city imposing a height limit on skyscrapers over the last 100 years. Now that the height limits are gone, I can see Center City growing and flourishing over the next few decades. The downtown/skyline is going to look like the Chicago Loop eventually The city is going to start looking attractive to people from the Midwest or the South who want an urban experience but, can't afford New York which will probably be even more exorbitant (price-wise) by then.. and even then, you're still a short train ride away. New York 2 hours up, Washington DC 2 hours down, Atlantic City 1 hour west, Poconos 2 hours east, Baltimore Harbor 1.5 hours down. In the next 30 years, high speed trains will close that New York train time to almost nothing. People are already doing this now but, by 2040 you'll see hoards of people taking advantage of the differences in cost of living by working in Lower Manhattan or on K Street but, living in Rittenhouse Square. If I had some money, I would buy multiple properties on the edge of Center City Philadelphia and just wait.

It's already happening in Philly. It's been happening in Philly. It's been happening in Baltimore too. In fact, any major city in the US, it's been happening. shyt. I've met people from London that say it's been happening. Gentrification isn't mutually exclusive or geographically exclusive.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

A lot of people don't want to live in the south.

I know I don't. I would never want to live there.

 

[Malik]

It's already happening in Philly. It's been happening in Philly. It's been happening in Baltimore too. In fact, any major city in the US, it's been happening. shyt. I've met people from London that say it's been happening. Gentrification isn't mutually exclusive or geographically exclusive.

You know what I mean though. It's going to get worse.

 

[Poitier]

Once Atlanta's film industry fully maturates, it's going to be a better city to live in for Blacks than NYC. More affordable and more of us.

It's already happening in Philly. It's been happening in Philly. It's been happening in Baltimore too. In fact, any major city in the US, it's been happening. shyt. I've met people from London that say it's been happening. Gentrification isn't mutually exclusive or geographically exclusive.

Yeah, it's a worldwide phenomena due to the global economy. The Rich are hoarding wealth everywhere. I suspect most of it is due to all the cool public services you get in a city: subways, parks, museums, but mostly I think once shyt hits the fan and global warming really starts wiping out people, these dudes want to be exorbitantly rich enough to be protected, I guess.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

Why are you so worried when you not even from here?

I have a theory that the real estate people influence the NYT to talk up these neighborhoods as up and coming to bring up the prices.

this is very true. they have str8 made neighborhoods up now south park slope is one i remember in particular....i was looking at the realtor like this is sunset park.

 

[Carolina Slim]

We still have a chance brehs. Come down south brehs. Its so easy. Let those idiots up north struggle with all those crippling economic forces. Its a fool's game. You can come down south and be a homeowner on a $40K/yr income.

I love my city, but I wouldn't be able to live like I do now if I stayed in NYC. Eventually a nikka just got tired of the daily grind.