My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Poitier]

I'm not saying that. I'm saying who could have guess people would get tired of driving for 2 hours a day just to come to work and move back into the city. Suburban flight was a historical mistake and now it's being corrected.

Most of the people that are flocking to the city don't work in the city, though. I knew tons of kids on their daddy's, who lives in Omaha, dime, tons of foreigners who use NYC as a vacation pad, and transplants opening up artisinal food places. I'm sure some people from other areas in the Tri-state are moving back to NYC but most of these people coming into the city didn't even live on the East coast, let alone the Northeast.

It's also more cultural than that. NYC has THE MOST public services and infrastructure in America (trains, parks, museums) and overall the most diversified culture. The irony is that there will be a tipping point where all the people who create the richness of that culture will be shunned. Someone else raised the issue as well, who are going to work at the McDonalds, Duane Reades, as janitors, and as delivery men. The commute for people who would at some point will make it not worth it and trust fund kids surely ain't. I suspect NYC is going to collapse 10-15 years out if this trend continues. Once it becomes apparent how vanilla and stale culturally NYC has become, it isn't there yet, and these conglomerate who have stores on every corner can't afford to provide a reasonable wage to their work forces, there will be another shift.

We have to start buying our own houses and starting our own businesses. It sounds cliche but if not, these hipsters who think it's edgy will always follow us into our neighborhoods, infiltrate, and stabilize it for Sally from North Dakota to come in and destroy it.

 

[Canada Goose]

I know young white folks who live in the Rockaways

I think a bit of the hate is misplaced. A lot of the young white people in places like BK are FROM NYC. Plus a lot of people got pushed out of Manhattan. Black people aren't the only ones getting moved around by gentrification. The whole "trust fund" thing is a little goofy as well. I know a lot of these people. Some of them live two to a room like Mexicans. You gotta understand, nobody wants to live in the hood... "outsiders" generally move there because they have no other options. Why would anyone move somewhere where nobody looks like them or wants them around?

Gentrification is far reaching brehs, look beyond our world. Me n wifey were makign good dough, we had a place in the UES and still put a good bit of money away... but we had to leave NYC. Even discounting all the quality of life issues, we couldn't afford to take that next step. We would have been just scraping by w/a house and some kids. Likewise a white person in ENY is probably just scraping by as well. Stop looking at the shyt through the lens of race and look at it through the lens of economics

I know young white folks who live in the Rockaways

They live in the hood part of the Rockaways? As you know, one half of the Rockaways is pretty much entirely white while the other half is in the hood.

Why would anyone move somewhere where nobody looks like them or wants them around?

From what I seen blacks are not really hostile towards whites that live in majority black neighborhoods, only time I seen any sort of hostility is when I was in my area in Flatbush and these teengers was wilding out and just messing around and a white couple was walking in there direction and yelled "White people" in a like voice. But they clearly was just joking around but I don't think the white couple knew how to take it.


Also interesting that you point that out, as some new development in Manhattan in Midtown has affordable housing along with the usual apartments for wealthier people, I don't see why anyone would want to in live in Affordable housing in that area, would be out of place like a mofo. Manhattan south of Harlem is cool to visit, but to live there and you're just middle class or lower

 

[froggle]

this is funny and at the same time. It would be good if you guys could start taking pics and show us whats happening. I can't believe places being overrun so quick

 

[Captain Crunch]

Soon all of of the city(cept for Wash Heights and parts of Bx) are gonna look like U.E.S. and S.I. population wise. Nothing but Cacs.

Everybody gon be priced out to the shytty suburbs.

Wash Heights is becoming Disneyland as well, if you live within a 30 min train ride from Midtown, your neighborhood is bound to get gentrified.

I see more and more cacs out in South Bronx each time I go out there(basically every week), it's not obvious yet(I.E a Whole Foods or Coffee Shops), but it's certainly about to be noticeable in 5 years.

 

[thoushallhustle]

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[Captain Crunch]

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You ain't safe in LA ma, Inglewood and Compton are next.

 

[thoushallhustle]

You ain't safe in LA ma, Inglewood and Compton are next.

they can have compton, the mexicans took that awhile ago. but inglewood

 

[Tommy Fits]

They live in the hood part of the Rockaways? As you know, one half of the Rockaways is pretty much entirely white while the other half is in the hood.



From what I seen blacks are not really hostile towards whites that live in majority black neighborhoods, only time I seen any sort of hostility is when I was in my area in Flatbush and these teengers was wilding out and just messing around and a white couple was walking in there direction and yelled "White people" in a like voice. But they clearly was just joking around but I don't think the white couple knew how to take it.


Also interesting that you point that out, as some new development in Manhattan in Midtown has affordable housing along with the usual apartments for wealthier people, I don't see why anyone would want to in live in Affordable housing in that area, would be out of place like a mofo. Manhattan south of Harlem is cool to visit, but to live there and you're just middle class or lower

By hammels you still have some hold over old shanty Irish that still live over there. And further down, close to the boarder with 5 towns you got a lot of hasidac Jews.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

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[ogc163]

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My homegirl just got kicked out of her apartment a couple of weeks ago in Bushwick, landlord raised her and her roommate's rent by $400 out of nowhere.

 

[yoyoyo1]

Went to school on a full ride the past five years in NYC. I feel bad because I was a passive observer but clearly saw the trending of white folks and rich minorities to places like Bed Stuy, Chinatown (yes the Whites are penetrating that area somewhat), East Harlem and now Crown Heights

This thread really put SO MUCH in perspective. All the projects in the LES that I use to see are all co-opts now. Living in Harlem and taking that 6 train home from work

If you have job experience, skills, and or an education, you should come down South. I'm from Atlanta and I'm kind of at a crossroads where to call home, but in the few months being back here, I've had TONS of job offers. It's cheap and as long as you live close to the city, you can have enough things to do to kind of fill the void of not having the immediacy of NYC. If you like Black women and snow bunnies then ain't a place better.

Why live in a city where you are a renter when you could own a house, have cake left over and start a small business? Black folks up North and out West messed up back in the day but yall gotta get it right this time around. The next time they try to come into our neighborhoods, we need to have them on lockdown.

appreciate the sentiment...........


...............but its the south

 

[Poitier]

appreciate the sentiment...........


...............but its the south

The cities in the South aren't any different than up North. Just stay away from the outskirts, suburbs, and rural areas.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Wash Heights is becoming Disneyland as well, if you live within a 30 min train ride from Midtown, your neighborhood is bound to get gentrified.

I see more and more cacs out in South Bronx each time I go out there(basically every week), it's not obvious yet(I.E a Whole Foods or Coffee Shops), but it's certainly about to be noticeable in 5 years.

see, white people are seen a bit more now in the South Bronx, but it's still at a level where you KNOW there's a white guy on the block. Once it becomes too commonplace is when they got your neighborhood too. I was just on the 2 the other day and a white couple got on at West Farms /Tremont. At first I was like "damn they're here too" but then I also thought "they must be the only ones because I couldn't find 2 on the way to the station"

I think if they wanted to gentrify the BX, they are YEARS behind where they wanna be. After a while people are just gonna come to a conclusion that the only way to gentrify the BX is to nuke it

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

see, white people are seen a bit more now in the South Bronx, but it's still at a level where you KNOW there's a white guy on the block. Once it becomes too commonplace is when they got your neighborhood too. I was just on the 2 the other day and a white couple got on at West Farms /Tremont. At first I was like "damn they're here too" but then I also thought "they must be the only ones because I couldn't find 2 on the way to the station"

I think if they wanted to gentrify the BX, they are YEARS behind where they wanna be. After a while people are just gonna come to a conclusion that the only way to gentrify the BX is to nuke it

Nah. Bloomberg already did his part. The same thing that happened to BK and parts of Manhattan and Queens will happen there. Once everybody is priced out of where they were, they'll go into other parts like the BX, raise the rents, displace families and working class people who will have to no choice but to move out to greener pastures. More than likely, those greener pastures will be out of New York City completely...maybe Jersey city (but that's already on it's way to becoming gentrified and there are transplants there already. I mean, there was already a NYT piece about Jersey City becoming the new "place to be". And anytime NYT does that, it's essentially just a sign to leave before it gets too crowded/expensive).

That's whats phucked up about gentrification in NYC, it was all done with economics...cause lord knows you just can't tell poor people to just move the phuck out from where they are to give room for "cool and trendy" rich people.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Nah. Bloomberg already did his part. The same thing that happened to BK and parts of Manhattan and Queens will happen there. Once everybody is priced out of where they were, they'll go into other parts like the BX, raise the rents, displace families and working class people who will have to no choice but to move out to greener pastures. More than likely, those greener pastures will be out of New York City completely...maybe Jersey city (but that's already on it's way to becoming gentrified and there are transplants there already. I mean, there was already a NYT piece about Jersey City becoming the new "place to be". And anytime NYT does that, it's essentially just a sign to leave before it gets too crowded/expensive).

That's whats phucked up about gentrification in NYC, it was all done with economics...cause lord knows you just can't tell poor people to just move the phuck out from where they are to give room for "cool and trendy" rich people.

That's geographically impossible to pull off. The Bronx would have to burn again for that to happen, and even then the geography makes some spots forever cheap.