Very impressive. Getting into Chinese U is not easy at all.
My Husband And I Thought Education Was A Way Out Of Poverty. Now We’re $718,000 In Debt.
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Very impressive. Getting into Chinese U is not easy at all.
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real estate in Cleveland Ohio? yea ok
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Not going to lie Baruch does seem pretty white/Asian for a CUNY school.
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Not the ones the Cacs work in.
I believe it has the biggest Asian demographic among every NYC college and university.
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The head PR Rep from my company makes 6 figures in Alabama, and she has an English degree... the point is a lot of people don't like STEM, so what would be the point in them majoring in it.... the real crime is the tuition that colleges charge... it should at least be in accordance to what your degree could possibly earn you in the private sector
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Just gonna quote what I wrote on another thread a few days back...
Otis and I were students in the same second-grade class in Cleveland back in the 1990s. I distinctly remember his braces and big ears. He was quite mischievous, and I may have fallen in love watching him run on the playground; the sun beaming from his metal grin. The little girl back then, with curly pigtails and unlaced K-Swiss shoes had no idea that she was staring at her future.
When my family moved to another city in Ohio, I assumed that I would never see Otis again. That was until the birth of social media, which changed everything. Ten years later, his Facebook friend request sparked our destiny.
It was the summer of 2008. The best summer of my life. We were both 18 and heading off to separate colleges. Starting a new relationship was very ambitious of us. Our friends thought we were crazy, but it just felt right. Otis wasn’t like most guys. Since the age of 16, he knew that he was going to be a dentist. I knew that Otis was the stable man that I needed to build a successful life with.
I think our troubled pasts were driving forces in our relationship. I grew up in inner-city Cleveland. My parents were teenagers when I was born, and I don’t remember them ever being together. I lived with my mom most of the time and she did the best that she could, raising six children alone. Although my family was on welfare and frequently moved around, my parents would constantly remind me of the importance of education and financial independence.
Neither of my parents had a college education. After high school, my mother became a hairstylist, and my dad was a mail carrier. My grandparents were also trade workers. Money was always an issue for my family, and I recall being aware of our economic status as a child. The option of my parents paying for college did not exist. There were no college accounts or trust funds. We struggled to live, and college was my answer to break the cycle.
Otis, on the other hand, grew up in a stable home. His parents were married, lived in the suburbs and made a profitable living as successful real estate brokers. When Otis turned 12, his family’s stability came spiraling down. It started with the tragic death of his older brother and the incarceration of his father. His mother tried to support the family on her own during the recession. Every bit of their savings was used, but overall they were unable to recover. Otis and I were young, hopeful and eager to learn from our parents’ mistakes. Together, the sky was the limit.
I applied to Miami University of Ohio after reading a mail brochure. The school launched a scholarship program for underprivileged students. I was accepted and later committed to the university without any idea where it was or what the campus looked like. Attending Miami was the best decision. Not only was the majority of my tuition covered with scholarships, but the campus was beautiful. I graduated in 2012 with $23,025.88 in student loans. With my English degree in hand, I was ready to face the world and chase down a dream job in magazine publishing, but I was stuck. I had zero leads on where to start job-hunting and lacked the confidence to try. I was frozen, Otis had to stay in Pennsylvania for another year to finish his degree in biology at Lincoln University. So, I made the decision to go back home to Cleveland and work until Otis graduated. From there we would make plans to get married and move to wherever he was accepted for dental school.
Life did not go as planned. Otis and I could not secure high-paying jobs. Otis accumulated $80,000 in undergraduate debt, grappled studying for the Dental Admission Test and couldn’t get the test score needed for acceptance. I doubted my ability as a writer and began to explore a career in the mental health field.
If Otis and I agreed on anything, it was definitely the importance of family. We were married in 2014 and due to some birth control errors had a surprise baby in 2015. Although we were not planning to have children yet, starting a family was a big deal. The two things that we wanted in life were children and financial happiness. I stopped working to stay home and raise our son with plans to expand our family. After leaving work, I was confronted with intense identity issues: Who was I without a career?
I’d scroll down my social media timeline and compare myself to others. They appeared to be traveling, shopping and building perfect homes. On the other side of the screen, I was pregnant, full of dreams and broke. I later enrolled in school for my master’s degree to fill an emotional void. A decision that cost me $64,595.44. After three years of rejections, Otis gave up on being a dentist, and he earned an MBA in health administration for a whopping $101,000. Whew, I’m out of breath typing about it! Our problem was that we were trying to fit into a life that I don’t believe was designed for us.
Otis and I come from a city where healthy and educated Black families were few and far between. Without any resources, Otis and I were drawing the road map to success while voyaging to our destination. Externally, we did everything right. We graduated from college, were married, purchased a house and had children. Our career paths just didn’t follow along, and worse yet, we were drowning in $268,621.32 in student loans. Looking back, I understand that we couldn’t have it all when we wanted it.
The American dream requires sacrifice. Love and family simply wasn’t something we were willing to give up. I didn’t have married parents. I lived between two homes with half-siblings. I was determined to create the family I never had. I think we live in a culture that measures a person’s worth in numbers. It’s about credit scores, salaries and bank accounts. From what I see, love is desired by many but is deemed negotiable. If I were to live by numerical standards, my life would be over. But it is the love that we have for God, each other and our children that have kept Otis and me hopeful.
The itch of an old dream reemerged and Otis applied to dental school a final time. On Feb. 27, 2019 he was accepted. The American dream is not cheap, and when he graduates it will cost my family a total of $718,000 in student loan debt. So you can imagine my excitement when presidential candidate Bernie Sanders announced his plan to cancel all $1.6 trillion of student debts if elected.
My husband and I were first-generation college students in our respective families. Choosing to attend a four-year university was not a lighthearted decision for either of us. Our education was the way out of poverty. Now, my husband is a first-year dental student. Despite his earning ability, we are still burdened with massive debt. His salary as a medical professional cannot save us. It seems as in our attempt to flee destitution; we are peddling back towards it.
America has the highest average tuition cost in the world. The U.S. is also the land of opportunity but crawling out of the sand hole of poverty requires tremendous loss. Nothing is free here. Otis and I grew up fiscally challenged but as American citizens, we had the chance to work hard and achieve success. Every postgraduate decision was a leap of faith. My husband’s road to dental school was competitive and expensive. Our upward ladder to success was a slick one.
Today, we are eager to provide a fruitful life for our two children. We desire to give back to our community, support businesses and help our parents. The expectation was to work and support our families in a country that would support us in return. But the high tuition costs and ballooning interest rates limit us. I feel that Americans are sold a dream and then punished for pursuing it.
I hope that our nation will learn to empathize with others and value its citizens more than monetary gain. The future should look bright for us, but life currently resembles rush-hour traffic while driving through a dark tunnel. My husband and I have experienced many struggles and, with perseverance, have overcome those barriers. Whether or not our student loans are erased, we’ve found our peace and will pay it off slowly. Although our debt cannot be avoided, it does not rule our lives, it will not stop us from being happy.
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Edit: Here are both of their LinkedIn’s so you can get a better picture.
Hers
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-bevel-42b40518a/
In case the link doesn’t work:
His
https://www.linkedin.com/in/otis-bevel-b5913a183/
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We have a real problem in our community with getting this information out there though. Most peoples' families aren't up on the realities of how this all works - they assume that it's still 1980 or whatever and an MBA or a JD from anywhere means a whole lot.
That's why I can't dump on folks who find themselves in this trap. When your family, friends, guidance counselors, pastor, etc. are all praising you for pursuing a graduate degree, it's real tough to move the other way.
For a lot of these folks, their best move is to get into any sort of government gig and take advantage of PSLF. At least they'll have a predictable income stream / career track and their loans will go to 0 after 10 years. A lot of them aren't the entrepreneurial type - just getting back to 0 net worth (after eliminating all that student loan debt) pencils out a whole lot better than most other approaches.
Prayers up for this young black family. I hope they're able to navigate through all of this and get to the other side.
There are top colleges and there are regional powerhouses. Baruch is a regional powerhouse because it feeds into NYC’s corporate community. The first black partner of KPMG attended Baruch, so Big 4 recruits heavily from Baruch.
Every major city has a college/university that may not be “elite” but still has connections, is well regarded, and places well into the local economy. Being smart means thinking about that option if you know what you want to do. The problem is, people are using their 20’s to figure out what they want to do, which puts them behind the curve because they miss out on opportunities thay would have been available to them if they were focused and prepared earlier.
If your LSAT couldn’t get you into a top 30 Law school and you had dreams of white show law, think about Howard Law, which isn’t elite, but elite law firms will do diversity recruitment at the school because of Howard’s great alumni network and it’s rep for being the alma mater of a Supreme Court Justice - Thurgood Marshall. You have to think smart, but you also have to prepare early.
Ain’t she supposed to be an English major?Okay. This is a nitpick and all, but why did the writer of this article use a semicolon here and not a comma? "It seems..." isn't an independent clause, so the author should've used a comma afterwards...
I believe the current CEO of Deloitte is a Baruch alumnus.
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I work in a “quasi” legal government contracting job...supervising actual attorneys so the degree helped get my foot in the door but my people skills and being level-headed and strategic is what got me promoted. At the end of the day people like people that they like and will promote them. technical skills and education are great but the soft skills are what makes you stand out. 8 times out of 10 the smartest and hardest worker are just looked at as a work horse while the person who can get people to like and follow them are looked at as a leader and promoted and paid accordingly.
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One of the biggest things that families need to research before selecting a college is what the on campus recruitment is like. A lot of these schools feed into big companies with no trouble at all meanwhile you go to a no name school for the same degree and you are fukked in the job market smh 
Also you go to a big name school and get a bullshyt degree you could still end up with a solid job bc of the alumni network
Also you go to a big name school and get a bullshyt degree you could still end up with a solid job bc of the alumni network
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They can both find work with their degrees and live a comfortable life. A lot of information is missing here.