No upgrade path for phones running WP 7.5 tho?
7.8 for existing owners.
MS Windows Phone 8 announcements ( they just stepped their game up)
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7.8 for existing owners.
Cat piss martini
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I been telling nikkas windows was gonna own
the phone and tablet market.
the phone and tablet market.
qwerty_jones
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Dont forget the Xbox 720, Smart Glass etc.
we will see about the 720. They keep pushing all that kinect shyt then Nah
qwerty_jones
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Windows Phone wont catch up in 2 years maybe in 3 to 4. An ecosystem will sell the smartphone maybe not right now because the word "ecosystem" is nothing to consumers today but wait until they get drilled with "ecosystem" advertisements.
You tell me unless the person is heavily invested in Google or Apple's ecosystem. A person that owns a Xbox 360, a Windows PC and Laptop why would you buy an Android or iPhone?
If you look at the numbers you have 1.4 billion people owning Windows PC's and 44 million people owning Xbox's you have ALOT of people to potentially move them over to Windows Phones.
WP customer satisfaction scores are on Apples level peep Amazons top rated phones.
If you look at it MS has phones that people love, affordable and work why is it not selling.. Its because people at the retail level cant sell a phone they haven't used before. I cant sell something that I haven't used and I'm sure a lot of sales people are like that to.
But if you look at it now
- MS, Nokia and AT&T partnership is working Lumia 900 second to iPhone sales.
- T-mobile sales are going strong and thats with 1 Windows Phone handset.
- Verizon is joining up this fall
Nokia is commited to making exclusive phones carrier specific. Plus with all this carrier add-on's to WP8 like
- Integrated Voip whether its Skype or Carried Related
- NFC wallet can also be Carrier Related
This is the shyt carriers want from OEM's they want shyt that can make them more money. Apple ain't doing that not too sure what Google is offering yet but Microsoft is really taking carrier partnership seriously.
The more serious the partnership is the more the carrier will push WP over other platforms. Also carriers will now see a cut from Application sales as well.
To sum it up the biggest problem is at the retail level not at the OS level but at the retail level and with the WP8 carrier features and exclusive phones carriers will push WP8 like no other.
The more they push the ecosystem the more apps the more apps the more user pull the more user pull = the more marketshare.
qwerty_jones
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we will see about the 720. They keep pushing all that kinect shyt then Nah
Kinect is for families. Kinect is only going to make the app experience, game experience better in due time.
Breh I understand your enthusiasm but you are making a few mistakes, let me set you straight on a few things.
1. The MONSTER that is known as Android, 1 million act a day, 1,000,000 a day nikka let that sink in for a sec.
2. Microsoft market share is right around 1%, Android and iOS basically takes the rest so Smartglass and other MS services has to support them both.
3. Do you think for a sec that Android and iOS is going to sit by and not advance themselves? Jellybean is right around the corner.
4. Choice! One of androids biggest advantage, manufacturers like to be able to differentiate themselves and android for better or worse allows that.
Now they are going in the right direction and is very impressive in what they are putting out. But I feel its a little to late to be one of the big dogs. I feel they have a real opportunity to take the lucrative RIM enterprise market. Now if this was 2-3 years ago this would have been a different story. But now I fear its a little to late. Lets be honest Win 7 phone was a failure.
end of the day two words will keep WP8 in a decent third place
OPEN SOURCE.
OPEN SOURCE.
its to late
will never happen
yea that's exactly what i mean, if they really wanted to make that jump from #3 to #2 they would have to open source and it would never happen
i like the direction there taking this though, this should have been the WP they dropped , still i want to see prices they cant try to come in with some of these phones and have TOP Android/Iphone prices on them, they have to go low end on the phone , or like i said offer computer/phone, xbox/phone bundles during the holidays for there lower end phones
being as TMO bullshytted me with the One S promo for fathers day am keep my eye on these wp8
aXiom
Maximized Potential
My dude... You work for Microsoft? I understand you enthusiasm, but you're posting hopes and dreams and numbers don't lie. If it doesn't come with and "App Store" or "Play Store" icon it's gonna be a distant 3rd.
As far as the WP7 sales... watch the GS3 outsell all windows phones combined this year, watch apple move another 30+ million iphones next quarter... again, numbers don't lie.
Even if iOS and Android device sales were to come to a halt today, at the rate WP7/8 is moving it would take MS over 30 years to match what iOS/Android did in 5.
Nokia sales last quater = 1.5 Million phones
Android Activations = ~1 Million/day
iPhone sold last quater = 35+ Million
it aint happenin bruh
fwiw... there are over 60 million xboxes worldwide, gonna be 70+ by years end.
qwerty_jones
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Breh I understand your enthusiasm but you are making a few mistakes, let me set you straight on a few things.
1. The MONSTER that is known as Android, 1 million act a day, 1,000,000 a day nikka let that sink in for a sec.
2. Microsoft market share is right around 1%, Android and iOS basically takes the rest so Smartglass and other MS services has to support them both.
3. Do you think for a sec that Android and iOS is going to sit by and not advance themselves? Jellybean is right around the corner.
4. Choice! One of androids biggest advantage, manufacturers like to be able to differentiate themselves and android for better or worse allows that.
Now they are going in the right direction and is very impressive in what they are putting out. But I feel its a little to late to be one of the big dogs. I feel they have a real opportunity to take the lucrative RIM enterprise market. Now if this was 2-3 years ago this would have been a different story. But now I fear its a little to late. Lets be honest Win 7 phone was a failure.
Remember Nokia and RIM were on top before and what happened. Anything can change in this market you can be going from 1 million activations a day to 10,000.
I respect Apple and Googles work but Microsoft is everywhere man if you look at a major corporation you look at the IT infrastructure the backend and the frontend is Microsoft.
Google is ahead when it comes to consumer services but thats because non of the MS services were ever built into the OS. Now people have to sign up for Live Accounts to get Skydrive to work. So now you will see more Live activations and people might be using services like Hotmail and Messenger alot more now since its required for Window 8.
This isn't going to change overnight its going to take 2 - 3 years to re-climb up that throne. Execution and communication is important from Microsoft to the OEM to the carrier to retail.
I understand that it might be too hard to believe but in this ever changing environment anything is possible and yeah there is a possibility of MS flopping because Metro is completely brand new and the 95% hate brand new things I understand that. But its a good change and it improves the way people use computers.
Now speaking of specs the number 1 feature of WP8 debuted today is hardware. OEM's can now spec a phone to however they want it and add custom applications to make the experience different. So you can expect OEM's to release Windows Phone alongside Android phones competition will be tougher. Previous WP couldn't do that because of locked specs.
WP isn't a failure if it failed people would hate it and devs wont support it but if you look at Amazon 7 out of the top 10 rated phones are Windows phones. If you look at applications it reached 100,000 apps with 4% marketshare in the US and devs don't even have native access that's pretty incredible.
If you want to talk about sales AT&T and T-mobile two big parters have been saying sales have been good even Rogers and TELUS up in Canada has been happy with Nokia products.
So overall you have high customer satisfaction, developer support and sales how is that a failure?
Also one more thing consumers need an OEM they can trust. Nokia is putting in work when it comes to customer satisfaction and I know your going to say no WP8 but we haven't seen all the features thats going to be added to 7.8
qwerty_jones
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My dude... You work for Microsoft? I understand you enthusiasm, but you're posting hopes and dreams and numbers don't lie. If it doesn't come with and "App Store" or "Play Store" icon it's gonna be a distant 3rd.
As far as the WP7 sales... watch the GS3 outsell all windows phones combined this year, watch apple move another 30+ million iphones next quarter... again, numbers don't lie.
Even if iOS and Android device sales were to come to a halt today, at the rate WP7/8 is moving it would take MS over 30 years to match what iOS/Android did in 5.
Nokia sales last quater = 1.5 Million phones
Android Activations = ~1 Million/day
iPhone sold last quater = 35+ Million
it aint happenin bruh
fwiw... there are over 60 million xboxes worldwide, gonna be 70+ by years end.
That's this year.. Is this going to go on forever did Blackberry stay on top forever. I don't know you tell me.