"Mr. Robot" Season 4 Official Thread

[OJ Simpsom]

Vera is what ruined the episode for me.
Imagine having such an emotional revelation with a crazy meth head yelling at you, and then consoling you after. I thought they were about to kiss.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

awful acting? check.

embarrassing writing? check.

cliche lightning as Elliot screams out a window? check.



what the fukk did you guys see that I missed that has you gassed on this abomination of an episode? and they bit the other slapstick dramedy with 'i am the gun' / 'i'm the one who knocks' line.


what a sad, sad state of affairs when cats are bigging up trash like this as if it's any more believable of better acted than a Son's of Anarchy episode. WE. ARE. DOOMED.

Of course your grumpy ass not only wasn't impressed but are calling it trash.

It's a logical fallacy to appeal to the masses, but it's got a perfect 10 on IMDB, is being praised by both fans, and critics alike. So I'm just pointing out that it's not that you have a different opinion that's crazy to me, but rather that the gulf between your opinion and everyone else's is so strong that the options are basically that you and you alone are entirely right...or that everyone else is entirely wrong.

There's basically no room for any middle ground with you on this, because it's just a terrible abomination and everyone else is dumb for enjoying this.

This is the epitome of a contrarian post with a cynical slant for the sake of being different.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I don't understand people acting like this is just a minor diversion from the Dark Army stuff. It's probably the single most important episode in the entire series.

There was a meme a few years ago, what if "Breaking Bad" took place in Canada. Aka, there is no series because Walt has health care.

Which is funny but obviously not true, because Walt was given an out (via Gray Matter) in season 1 and still chose to continue down the same path. That episode probably defined the character better than any other moment in the series.

The same goes for this. Elliot started this whole vendetta to avenge his dead father. Now he finds out his father was a piece of shyt and this whole "war" was predicated on a lie. So....what the fukk? What happens next will define Elliot more than the last 3 seasons combined.

And cats are like "what's the point of this?"

Fred.

Exactly

 

[Big Mel]

Of course your grumpy ass not only wasn't impressed but are calling it trash.

It's a logical fallacy to appeal to the masses, but it's got a perfect 10 on IMDB, is being praised by both fans, and critics alike. So I'm just pointing out that it's not that you have a different opinion that's crazy to me, but rather that the gulf between your opinion and everyone else's is so strong that the options are basically that you and you alone are entirely right...or that everyone else is entirely wrong.

There's basically no room for any middle ground with you on this, because it's just a terrible abomination and everyone else is dumb for enjoying this.

This is the epitome of a contrarian post with a cynical slant for the sake of being different.

I can assure you I'm right. This is laughable. The acting is atrocious, the writing is absurd and the audience seems content to look for inconsequential Easter eggs over well written/acted stories.


This is absolute bozo shyt. There’s no way you can tell me the acting isn’t terrible. You will lose every bit of credibility defending the garbage dialogue Vera spit. The psychiatrist goes from being nearly raped/killed to gathering her bearings and coaxing a buried memory of molestation out of Elliot in a matter of minutes. Really?

even the facial expressions are bad in this. These are poor actors.

“IM WITCHOO BRUH”

this shyt is beyond trash.

 

[jdubnyce]

I can assure you I'm right. This is laughable. The acting is atrocious, the writing is absurd and the audience seems content to look for inconsequential Easter eggs over well written/acted stories.


This is absolute bozo shyt. There’s no way you can tell me the acting isn’t terrible. You will lose every bit of credibility defending the garbage dialogue Vera spit. The psychiatrist goes from being nearly raped/killed to gathering her bearings and coaxing a buried memory of molestation out of Elliot in a matter of minutes. Really?

even the facial expressions are bad in this. These are poor actors.

“IM WITCHOO BRUH”

this shyt is beyond trash.

Guaranteed we'll see you in this thread next Sunday

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I can assure you I'm right. This is laughable. The acting is atrocious, the writing is absurd and the audience seems content to look for inconsequential Easter eggs over well written/acted stories.


This is absolute bozo shyt. There’s no way you can tell me the acting isn’t terrible. You will lose every bit of credibility defending the garbage dialogue Vera spit. The psychiatrist goes from being nearly raped/killed to gathering her bearings and coaxing a buried memory of molestation out of Elliot in a matter of minutes. Really?

even the facial expressions are bad in this. These are poor actors.

“IM WITCHOO BRUH”

this shyt is beyond trash.

I might defer to @hex and he can probably explain better than me, but realism has never been a criterion for good fiction. Vera is a ridiculous character. he always has been. Elements of this show have bordered on creeping into supernatural or at east surreal territory since day 1.

There are totally ridiculous aspects to the show but nothing is incongruent with what we've always been presented with.

Is the show being a little self-indulgent in its final season? Yes. Is it dramatically departing from any major areas of style and substance than they've established so far? I would say no.

So it's fine if you think this episode is wack, but it's only sightly dialed up from most of what we've already seen.

 

[nyknick]

Yeah, I stopped looking at previews and the previously on parts when I was watching Mad Men.

The previously on will throw a character in there that's been gone for 3 seasons and then you're like "Oh, I guess he's coming back "

And on Mad Men, the previews always framed shyt one way and it would be completely different during the episode.

I never watch trailers, previews or any of that shyt.

But the only previews I didn't mind seeing was for Mad Men because they would never show shyt

They would just show like 2 second shots of characters saying:
"What?" "Hello" "Of course" and then just a shot of Draper looking hungover

 

[Big Mel]

I might defer to @hex and he can probably explain better than me, but realism has never been a criterion for good fiction. Vera is a ridiculous character. he always has been. Elements of this show have bordered on creeping into supernatural or at east surreal territory since day 1.

There are totally ridiculous aspects to the show but nothing is incongruent with what we've always been presented with.

Is the show being a little self-indulgent in its final season? Yes. Is it dramatically departing from any major areas of style and substance than they've established so far? I would say no.

So it's fine if you think this episode is wack, but it's only sightly dialed up from most of what we've already seen.

I can sum up my experience with this show like so:

Ive seen every ep, every season, and when Vera appeared this season I’d forgotten he was even a character form seasons past. Maybe I was distracted by the Chinese transvestite or Joey Badass looking like a cross between 2chainz & BCC member.

im all for fiction. It’s usually lighthearted nonsense to zone out to. This started out a fine show to zone out to. It’s now become something I usually can’t even pay attention to without grabbing the phone. I had to rewind this episode at least 5 times in spots because I’d become more invested in the jump rope tutorials I’m engrossed in these days.

 

[jdubnyce]

I can sum up my experience with this show like so:

Ive seen every ep, every season, and when Vera appeared this season I’d forgotten he was even a character form seasons past. Maybe I was distracted by the Chinese transvestite or Joey Badass looking like a cross between 2chainz & BCC member.

im all for fiction. It’s usually lighthearted nonsense to zone out to. This started out a fine show to zone out to. It’s now become something I usually can’t even pay attention to without grabbing the phone. I had to rewind this episode at least 5 times in spots because I’d become more invested in the jump rope tutorials I’m engrossed in these days.

That dedication
I'd say you're a fan

 

[Tres Leches]

vera or white rose were the only ones that could force the therapist to push eliott

 

[KalKal]

Damn man.......

So much for the “3rd” you guys was hyping and hoping for

i mean this shyt still happened so:



who do yall hypothesize the other one is if we all goofed?




i think there is still a lot more to this.

He was on the subway platform with what looked like the kid version of Elliot in the promo for next week's episode.

It's possible that being one of the three, he stands in for Mr. Robot for the meantime - at least until we meet the potential third personality perhaps

The youtube clip above shows the kid seated around a table with four chairs. I think that means there are FOUR personalities. The kid is one of them, plus Elliot, Mr. Robot, and the 3rd one we're waiting for.

It was the plan that got me... I don't care how much Meth you smoking... You ain't taking over NYC and having them sell drugs in legal establishments... nikka what?? The second he found out about the money, he should have took that and ran.. Mr Robot called him out on being the dumbest plan in the history of the world, but still... His whole island of PR/Haiti didn't tell him first?

What does it even mean to "run an island"? I'm glad that they "lampshaded" that that's a dumb idea, but we're supposed to think Vera is a threat and not stupid so I still think that part of the writing is a bit weak. His goal is to be some kind of cartoon Kingpin?.Is he going to be Issac Hayes from "Escape from New York"?

I think the whole "Island" comparison/metaphor is doubly stupid. Vera says he ran one island, and now he wants to run another by running "The Five Boroughs". But if he ran DR he would only be running HALF an island, and if he were running The Five Boroughs he'd be running two whole islands, a part of another really big island, and a part of mainland North America. Running "AN island" wouldn't work in either case. Looks like Esmail might not have a very good grasp of Caribbean OR American geography .

Reminds me of the trailer for the "21 Bridges" movie where they're like "We have to shut down the island!!!". Whoever came up with that


It's always funny to me how NY is so important to the media industry in general, but TV writers consistently fail to understand anything about the basic arrangement of the city at all. Its seems that all TV writers simply don't know the difference between "Manhattan" and "New York". Imagine telling the average TV writer that Brooklyn is on the same island as "Long Island" .

Nobody would EVER refer to NYC as "THE ISLAND" in any context.

 

[DerrtySouthpaw]

Lol at y’all going back and forth with that fakkit cracker in this thread

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The youtube clip above shows the kid seated around a table with four chairs. I think that means there are FOUR personalities. The kid is one of them, plus Elliot, Mr. Robot, and the 3rd one we're waiting for.






What does it even mean to "run an island"? I'm glad that they "lampshaded" that that's a dumb idea, but we're supposed to think Vera is a threat and not stupid so I still think that part of the writing is a bit weak. His goal is to be some kind of cartoon Kingpin?.Is he going to be Issac Hayes from "Escape from New York"?

I think the whole "Island" comparison/metaphor is doubly stupid. Vera says he ran one island, and now he wants to run another by running "The Five Boroughs". But if he ran DR he would only be running HALF an island, and if he were running The Five Boroughs he'd be running two whole islands, a part of another really big island, and a part of mainland North America. Running "AN island" wouldn't work in either case. Looks like Esmail might not have a very good grasp of Caribbean OR American geography .

Reminds me of the trailer for the "21 Bridges" movie where they're like "We have to shut down the island!!!". Whoever came up with that


It's always funny to me how NY is so important to the media industry in general, but TV writers consistently fail to understand anything about the basic arrangement of the city at all. Its seems that all TV writers simply don't know the difference between "Manhattan" and "New York". Imagine telling the average TV writer that Brooklyn is on the same island as "Long Island" .

Nobody would EVER refer to NYC as "THE ISLAND" in any context.

rewatch the scene breh... He says he took PR.... then it wasn't enough... So he took Haiti too



nikka couldn't pull off one of those things, let alone two. I'm sure 1 man doesn't even run half of half that island... And that includes the damn president of each.. That was too wild

 

[CouldBeWorse]

rewatch the scene breh... He says he took PR.... then it wasn't enough... So he took Haiti too



nikka couldn't pull off one of those things, let alone two. I'm sure 1 man doesn't even run half of half that island... And that includes the damn president of each.. That was too wild

Like someone me said in this thread, methhead ramblings.

 

[Jmare007]

Yeah, I don't understand why anyone would believe Vera's ramblings about "owning" DR and Haiti. He just wanted to show Elliot he "did something" and that he could takeover New York because he had already done that with the other island, so he just made that shyt up