Movies Getting Ruined by Forced Romantic Subplots Unappreciation

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I can't stand the fact that Hollywood feels the need to force a romantic subplot into so many movies that would have been great without them. I'm assuming it's to gain female moviegoers, but many of these movies don't even reference the romance in the previews, so how would they know that shyt exists without buying the ticket in the first place?

I'm watching Hancock right now and the relationship between Will and Charlize Theron just threw everything off. The movie had some other issues (no white superhero would go to jail over destroying property while saving people) but this shyt goes downhill once they introduce the romantic twist and that garbage about them staying away from each other to keep their powers.

That got me thinking about other movies being similarly affected, and Flight came to mind right away. I didn't see any real reason to have Denzel fall in love with the coked out white chick. I doubt that I'm the only one who would have much rather seen him repair things with his ex-wife and son.

I still love Flight but I leaned back like :why: once I realized why they introduced the white woman.

What other movies got derailed by this nonsense?
 

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You nikkas just need to make a "Women Unappreciation Thread" and get it over with :aicmon:

The point of Flight was for Denzel to finally reach a point where he's honest and stops making excuses for himself and his obvious addiction. He needs to lose everything before he gets there. He lost his wife a long time ago and seemingly loses his son during the movie, he loses his job (and freedom) at the end and they needed him to lose something else in the process of the movie. The relationship with that chick isn't in the slightest bit forced. She's an addict just like him, but just the different side of the same coin. It's not like he had anywhere or anyone to go to after that crash. A lot of insight into just how fukked up Denzel's character is happens around her. She's also there to illustrate that it doesn't matter how much others try and help you if you don't want to help yourself.

As for Hancock, that movie was just sloppily written and conceived. The premise of them being paired but getting weaker when they get close to each other is actually really interesting as far as superhero movies go. They can live normal human lives together or be gods apart. Problem is the movie starts with some silly shyt and ends being serious. It needed to pick one and ride with it.

To answer the thread, most Jason Statham and Vin Diesel movies movies fit the bill. Most apocalyptic movies also. A lot of war movies. The Transformers movies. The Departed is one too.
 

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Romantic subplots are mainly for movie trailers and movie posters. To draw in females. They hardly ever get it right.

The romantic subplot in Flight was completely unnecessary. Her character was underdeveloped, no one really cared about her (when she left), and there was no chemistry between her and Denzel. There were no stakes in their relationship. You could literally pull her role from the movie and pretty much nothing would change.

Plus, the two broken people thing is so cliched and has been done to death.

If you want to know whether a romantic subplot works or not just ask yourself 1 question. If there was ever a sequel would anyone care if she/he wasn't in it?

An example of getting it right? Hans Solo and Princess Leila. She's essential to the plot of the movie so the subplot doesn't seem forced.
 

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You nikkas just need to make a "Women Unappreciation Thread" and get it over with :aicmon:
:whoa: I'm definitely not one of the dudes on here who hate women. This is just about something that bugs me in movies, nothing more.

The point of Flight was for Denzel to finally reach a point where he's honest and stops making excuses for himself and his obvious addiction. He needs to lose everything before he gets there. He lost his wife a long time ago and seemingly loses his son during the movie, he loses his job (and freedom) at the end and they needed him to lose something else in the process of the movie. The relationship with that chick isn't in the slightest bit forced. She's an addict just like him, but just the different side of the same coin. It's not like he had anywhere or anyone to go to after that crash. A lot of insight into just how fukked up Denzel's character is happens around her. She's also there to illustrate that it doesn't matter how much others try and help you if you don't want to help yourself.
I know the point of flight, but their relationship just felt forced and out of place to me. Obviously different people will view it in different ways, but I would have preferred to see him redeem himself with him wife instead. I agree with everything about Hancock though.

This pretty much sums up my exact views on the relationship in Flight:

The romantic subplot in Flight was completely unnecessary. Her character was underdeveloped, no one really cared about her (when she left), and there was no chemistry between her and Denzel. There were no stakes in their relationship. You could literally pull her role from the movie and pretty much nothing would change.

Plus, the two broken people thing is so cliched and has been done to death.
 

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:whoa: I'm definitely not one of the dudes on here who hate women. This is just about something that bugs me in movies, nothing more.


I know the point of flight, but their relationship just felt forced and out of place to me. Obviously different people will view it in different ways, but I would have preferred to see him redeem himself with him wife instead. I agree with everything about Hancock though.

This pretty much sums up my exact views on the relationship in Flight:

I agree that nobody cared when she left, but I think the reason is because Denzel didn't even care, really. I honestly didn't even see it as a romance. We meet up with Denzel's character smashing a stewardess and doing lines. The fact is he has nothing to go back to regardless of how that flight goes. I just saw the relationship with the white chick as him subconsciously seeing someone that reminds him of himself but mostly just somebody to keep him company that wont judge him.:yeshrug: I feel like, just from the few scenes we saw, true redemption with his wife was out the window. I'm assuming they came to a truce at the end when it came to seeing his son. If you took the whole airplane part out and just made it a movie about Denzel struggling with (and denying the presence of) his alcoholism, losing everything, and then trying to get his family back, that could be an amazing movie:ohhh:
 
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The Expendables with Sly basically fighting a whole town over a chick :beli: ruined the movie for me. Stathams love interest was enough for the movie
 

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I agree with op 100%. World War z was a great movie partly because they limited the stupid love scene bullshyt. I shouldn't have to think about some stupid white bytch and lovey dovey crap in the middle of an action/zombie flick. Save that gay shyt for drama movies and the lifetime network.
 

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I know its done to for women to be interested in the movie but shyt is ridiculous.They dont force an action sub plot into chick flicks.Its the equivalent to if the two dudes in the notebook had a 10 minute fist fight. Movies need to be able to survive without played cliches

Every movie doesn't need a romantic sub plot or love interest. The dude in cloverfield went back for his ex girlfriend during a monster attack who he wasn't going to see again after that night anyway :beli: and the arious action heroes whose characters are loners who get stuck like glue to some broad they just met just as they have to do some life or death mission
 
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