Mos Def showed way more potential, ability, and rhyming skills then Bigge based

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Truthfully I don't think Mos Def himself would co-sign this thread. He himself ranks Biggie as a GOAT.

And Mos never became who he was "supposed" to. The expectations may have been too high for him. But dude was too dope, not to be mentioned among the best to ever do it. I blame the low output from him.

Biggie was killed, he's got an excuse. Mos should've stuck to music, and left the acting alone for awhile. He lost focus somewhere..
 

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I would have just made a Mos appreciation thread instead of stating a controversial opinion then dikk head:dead:. Fall back:beli:

I make good threads and get negged for them :skip:

You make shytty threads to beg for reps :youngsabo:
 
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I make good threads and get negged for them :skip:

You make shytty threads to beg for reps :youngsabo:
If it makes you feel better I only got one rep for this thread. I still don't understand how dissing one of the most liked rappers = begging for reps but do you :yeshrug:
 

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The reason why Mos Def is never mentioned in top 5/10 is because he is on a higher plateau.

HipHop deaded.
Singing deaded.
Acting deaded.
Fashion deaded.
Knowledge deaded.

No one is even close to Mos Def too.
 

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Biggie is overrated as a lyricist. Mos Def is definitely higher on my list if you are talking lyrics. Biggie was a great rapper though. His flow and his style was his best attributes...not his lyrics. Mos style is not easy to digest for the masses. If you are talking pure lyrics, Mos is underrated, even by me because I dont know if I would put him in my top 10 ranking pure lyricists, but he easily could be.

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This thread is exactly why Biggie will never leave GOAT discussions. Everyone compares their favorite rapper to Biggie, and this happens on message boards all across the net. You know why this is? Biggie is the STANDARD Period. Now being one of Mos Def's Biggest fans, I would agree that he is criminally under-rated as an emcee. "Black Star" is a Classic album, it's time for people to admit it and not just call it a back packer Classic. "Black on Both Sides" is also a Classic album that showed Mos Def to have a great range in rhyming skills. The problem I have with this thread is the attempt to somehow elevate Mos by saying he's better than Biggie. Look, music is subjective, if someone likes Mos better than Big that's their business but the reality is Biggie is considered the superior Emcee. "Ready To Die" is better than anything Mos has ever done.

That's not to disrespect what Mos has done but I haven't met anyone who wasn't taken aback when they 1st heard Biggie rhyme. I don't know if I can say the same for Mos. He's dope but Big bars hit listeners hard, instantly. When I 1st heard "Warning" or "Me and my B!tch", it's like how could you not push the rewind button after you finished "Ready To Die". I feel there are just more Classic songs on "Ready To Die". They were both versatile but I'd say Biggie was also a little more versatile mainly cause of his flow. I don't know if Mos could do an album like "Life After Death" that would require him to come out of his comfort zone and spit on other regions beats or sounds. There no doubt that yes Mos is versatile cause he started to sing but he does for the most part stay in his lane. Big made a habit of going outside of his lane many times including spitting with Bone Thugs. So again Yes Mos is under-rated but Overall the answer is no. Mos did not show more potential than Biggie did when they both dropped cause Biggie is called the greatest rapper ever based on what he did in his limited time. Also after "Black on Both Sides' Mos's solo material fell off quality wise and wasn't as strong as his debut. But I think that more people feel Big had a stronger potential even if he didn't live to fully see it. Also let's look at the fact that Biggie's "Who Shot Ya" beat is actually used by Mos Def on his debut album. In Mos Verse he admitted Biggie was GOAT STATUS and though I love the song "Brooklyn", he did not rip that beat harder than Biggie did. Cased Closed:

Mos Def - Brooklyn - YouTube

"Where one of the greatest emcee's was a Local Kat" - Mos Def (Admitted Biggie was GOAT Status)

You made my point better than me

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Also on a side note, a lot of you 80's and 90's babies are trying to throw shade at genre defining rappers to elevate guys that were more relevant in your era and that's a strange stance to take. In reality you can't call rappers like Nas and Big overrated, because they set the standard for the genre whether you like it or not. You always use these guys to prop up arguments there for diminishing them in the process. Also I'm gonna call :duck: on people all of a sudden saying Mos Def is top 5 or even 10 of all time, he's not, not to say he isn't one of the best rappers of the past 15 years he is, in fact he's in my top 15, but all this stuff about dude being better than Big, when you had people a little while ago arguing if he was even better than Common.
 

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Now that's just bad judgement. Thats not even Biggie's best track. fukking...even MEMPHIS BLEEK (yes I'm going there) has better songs than Juicy.
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memphis fukkin bleek has better songs that juicy ???? :what:

MEMPHIS BLEEK :why:

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Biggie is overrated as a lyricist. Mos Def is definitely higher on my list if you are talking lyrics. Biggie was a great rapper though. His flow and his style was his best attributes...not his lyrics. Mos style is not easy to digest for the masses. If you are talking pure lyrics, Mos is underrated, even by me because I dont know if I would put him in my top 10 ranking pure lyricists, but he easily could be.

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People kill me with "Biggie is overrated Lyrically". Then why can't Hip Hop keep his bars out their mouth? I mean how is a rapper sampled lyrically as much as Biggie and be overrated lyrically? Obviously his bars have impacted not just listeners but other rappers.
 

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People kill me with "Biggie is overrated Lyrically". Then why can't Hip Hop keep his bars out their mouth? I mean how is a rapper sampled lyrically as much as Biggie and be overrated lyrically? Obviously his bars have impacted not just listeners but other rappers.

because you are always going to quote your favorite rapper. that doesnt mean he is the best lyrically....or even close to it. I aint gonna argue with you, I love Biggie, but lyric for lyric bar for bar he aint fukkin with Nas, AZ, Black Thought, Kool G Rap, etc. Nobody should be saying Biggie wasnt nice and a good lyricist but he just dont rank that high to me lyrically as he does overall complete MC. People talking bout he the best ever and all that nonsense....I grew up with Rakim and Biggie not even in the same stratosphere as the God MC.
 

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lyrically a whole lot of MCs were better than Biggie. but pharoah monch is better than mos def
 

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