Mos Def showed way more potential, ability, and rhyming skills then Bigge based

[Capitol]

I did that purposely cause Mos Def the person you are saying showed more potential than Big considers Biggie GOAT Status. Look this myth that NY is the only people that think Biggie is the GOAT is something people try to say to discredit Big. Big gets love all over the world. His rhymes are bitten by every single region including West Coast. Mos Def wouldn't even co-sign your thread. Why not just do a thread and big up Mos? Why bring Biggie into it? You know why, cause like I said, Biggie is the Standard. You could of compared Mos to any rapper, why Biggie? This is my point it's like some fans are upset Big is GOAT status like he didn't drop 2 of the greatest rap albums of all time. Dudes need to let it go. It's 15 years later, there's a reason Big Legend is still growing.

First of all stop asking questions then filling the answers in for yourself. You look like a dumb ass

I have not once tried to discredit anything Biggie accomplished. I'm saying there are people that have accomplished more or the same amount and receive not even half of the credit that he gets and thats a problem. Like I said, even when he was alive Ghost had more great albums with his name attached to it and he STILL isn't considered to be better then him years laters? Thats the problem. Thats why I think Biggie is on a pedestal.



This thread was influenced by that other new york thread btw. I didn't pull Biggie out of thin air so I could tarnish his legacy

 

[Vlazz]

Mos is in my top 5. He would get a lot more respect from others if he didn't spend so much of his career acting. A lot of people know him from tv and movies more than music.

 

[daze23]

Then why isn't Big Pun and Big L always on these lists? Pac gave us numerous classics why he was alive and had a pretty damn good career so I'm not mad at anyone putting him on the list at all even if they give him a nod for the potential he had.

some people do put them up on their lists (shout out to dude that posted after you)

Biggie's always gonna come out on top of the consensus, because he had more successful songs than those dudes. but personally I don't think Biggie has enough work to be considered in the discussion

 

[Rapmastermind]

First of all stop asking questions then filling the answers in for yourself. You look like a dumb ass

I have not once tried to discredit anything Biggie accomplished. I'm saying there are people that have accomplished more or the same amount and receive not even half of the credit that he gets and thats a problem. Like I said, even when he was alive Ghost had more great albums with his name attached to it and he STILL isn't considered to be better then him years laters? Thats the problem. Thats why I think Biggie is on a pedestal.



This thread was influenced by that other new york thread btw. I didn't pull Biggie out of thin air so I could tarnish his legacy

Look I'm not saying you are tarnishing his legacy, I'm only saying that again the thread could of been done without even mentioning Big cause I think you can make a strong argument about Mos being an under-rated emcee who doesn't get his props. On that point I agree, "Black Star" and "BOBS" are both very quality rap albums with amazing replay value till this day. As for the Ghost Argument, nobody would debate I think Ghost not having a solid catalog cause in my view he does but as an emcee I believe most would say he's not seeing Big. It is what it is. Big just had that impact. I think people need to stop focusing on "Big only had 2 albums, why is he on this pedestal" and look at what those 2 albums did to the game. But I don't want to derail your thread cause again I think Mos Def doesn't get his credit as an emcee, I'm a huge fan.

 

[Ian1362]

mos def was never a better rhymer then biggie imo way shape or form imo

nah






I'll put the two tracks mentioned up against any NY emcee lyrically. It's not like Mos wasn't there in the late 90's either, he ripped that Bush Babees album, was great on Stakes Is High, etc.

I don't think Black Star's album is better than Ready to Die, but tracks like Respiration, Definition, Thieves in the Night are up in that same plateau in terms of quality IMO.

 

[Anti-Anime]

get the fukk out the here. you and the rest of the skinny jeans wearing faggets co singing can throw ya self in the bushes.

Stop it. nikkas been huge Mos Def fans before it was cool for hipsters to rep "conscious rap".

 

[Zach Lowe]

Lol @ this Rick Ross stan championing Mos Def to get his rep back up from full red

 

[Wild self]

get the fukk out the here. you and the rest of the skinny jeans wearing faggets co singing can throw ya self in the bushes.

I swear you have the heart of a C a C white supremacist.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The realer you are the more boring you are.

I never hear about Future or Wakka being boring.

How boring can money, cars, women, drugs get? We've been hearing it for years.

This is the most stupidest....... *sees screenname*..... nevermind.

 

[Capitol]

Lol @ this Rick Ross stan championing Mos Def to get his rep back up from full red

I would have just made a Mos appreciation thread instead of stating a controversial opinion then dikk head. Fall back

 

[Ineedmoney504]

mos is def nice, dont think he better than big tho

 

[NamelessPimp]

It's all subjective. Mos def is dope but Biggie made hits for clubs and radio.

Got it on point. These are two of my favorite emcees and I enjoy them in two completely diff ways that it really is difficult for me to compare the two.

 

[-Quikness-]

for mentioning the Mighty Mos Def. As controversial as your claim is, I'ma have to agree with you. Mos Def's first album was in fact BETTER than Ready to Die.

black on both sides is a classic but c'mon man

 

[HARLEM AL]

Stop it. nikkas been huge Mos Def fans before it was cool for hipsters to rep "conscious rap".

yeah right nikka.

 

[Ian1362]

yeah right nikka.

His debut came out in 1999 (13 years ago) and sold over half a million copies in a year.

All the people that bought it were skinny jean hipsters?

You don't remember these?

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his second best selling album came out in 2009 and did nowhere near the numbers, which is the direct opposite of what should have happened had iphone-release-camping-skinny-jean lovers carried his torch.