Money Williams- 2023-2024 Detroit Pistons Thread

[djthegreat88]

Ausar looking like a Pippen clone for real

Time to start looking at these draft boards

 

[Detroit Wave]

Gonna have to hire a eastside dusty nikka to break killian kneecaps. thats the only way to stop monty from giving that fakkit minutes.

shyt i would rather sasser gets his minutes

 

[Brandsdale]

6 games is enough to notice where team/system isnt gonna work with this team

I dont see how Monty is doing anything that much different from what Casey is doing (with the exception of Killian having more minutes)

 

[Brandsdale]

it sounds like Monty knows it's a long season and probably a lengthy rebuild. I interpret this as him demanding effort and IQ on defense regardless of how talented the player is on offense. That probably explains Killian minutes. I don't know because I didn't get league pass this year. Is Killian reliable on defense?

I think its similar to how Cory would start last year until Isaiah Livers was then rotated

 

[djthegreat88]

Its weird, i have faith in Weaver but i don't at same time. He definitely has an eye for talent. Only Killian is his only glaring whiff. Even his second rd picks Liver, Sasser, Lee are capable NBA players. Just too many reclamation projects (Wiseman, Josh Jackson, Lyles, Diallo, Knox) and no win now moves.

 

[who_better_than_me]

At some point Weaver has to make his big move. Been patient to a fault. Failed they Wemby sweepstakes. Stars don’t hit free agency anymore. Needs to swing a big trade. Like Cavs trading for Mitchell or Kings trading for Sabonis. If they could get someone like Lavine or Towns it would be perfect. Just keep core of Cade Ausar and Duran

Bey isn’t doing anything in Atl

Would y’all do the trade for Markannen? Hes a young star on the come up and him next to a real big like Duren would be complimentary. Only problem is Ainge don’t like to leave you any remaining asset. He’s on a great contract but some whispers is Aigne doesn’t want to Super max him while his team is clear still In rebuild mode.

I wouldnt be interested in him personally becaue he’s not a defensive big(luckily yall could have him surrounded by Thompson and Duren) but he’s also not a big you can run the offense through(at least he hasn’t shown that in Utah) and nowadays all the contenders have bigs you can run the offense through (Sabonis, Ad, Embidd, Towns, Jokic, Sengun) and that’s one of the biggest issue hampering yall. The offense only can really run through Cade and teams are taking that away and just forcing Cade to be a scorer instead of letting him creat

 

[djthegreat88]

Would y’all do the trade for Markannen? Hes a young star on the come up and him next to a real big like Duren would be complimentary. Only problem is Ainge don’t like to leave you any remaining asset. He’s on a great contract but some whispers is Aigne doesn’t want to Super max him while his team is clear still In rebuild mode.

I wouldnt be interested in him personally becaue he’s not a defensive big(luckily yall could have him surrounded by Thompson and Duren) but he’s also not a big you can run the offense through(at least he hasn’t shown that in Utah) and nowadays all the contenders have bigs you can run the offense through (Sabonis, Ad, Embidd, Towns, Jokic, Sengun) and that’s one of the biggest issue hampering yall. The offense only can really run through Cade and teams are taking that away and just forcing Cade to be a scorer instead of letting him creat

Markannan is perfect fit. A true stretch 4.

 

[manyfaces]

Its weird, i have faith in Weaver but i don't at same time. He definitely has an eye for talent. Only Killian is his only glaring whiff. Even his second rd picks Liver, Sasser, Lee are capable NBA players. Just too many reclamation projects (Wiseman, Josh Jackson, Lyles, Diallo, Knox) and no win now moves.

I don't think it was realistic to expect a win now move when he hadn't got a good idea on what the team looks like with the most foundational piece in the lineup. Gotta evaluate that first to decide what's needed to compliment the roster. Should be happening this summer though.

Would y’all do the trade for Markannen? Hes a young star on the come up and him next to a real big like Duren would be complimentary. Only problem is Ainge don’t like to leave you any remaining asset. He’s on a great contract but some whispers is Aigne doesn’t want to Super max him while his team is clear still In rebuild mode.

I wouldnt be interested in him personally becaue he’s not a defensive big(luckily yall could have him surrounded by Thompson and Duren) but he’s also not a big you can run the offense through(at least he hasn’t shown that in Utah) and nowadays all the contenders have bigs you can run the offense through (Sabonis, Ad, Embidd, Towns, Jokic, Sengun) and that’s one of the biggest issue hampering yall. The offense only can really run through Cade and teams are taking that away and just forcing Cade to be a scorer instead of letting him creat

Duren, Thompson, (Sasser, Ivey, Killian, whichever one it ends up taking the role) are all good enough passers to the point we shouldn't be really heavily depending on our offense to run through one guy. They've just got to continue to gel and get used to each other and cut down on the dumb to's. Markannen would be a good fit.

 

[dh86]

….we talking about minimum contracts and trading Trey Lyles for Bagley.

Funny thing is some folks crying about moving Bey will kill Bagley when they both at the same damn level as players .

Bagley and Wiseman aren’t minimum players, they combine for $25 million. The Warriors were staring down financial armageddon this year because of the luxury tax and Troy swooped in to save them. The Pistons didn’t get anything out of doing so. Troy did the same thing taking Burks and Noel so the Knicks can sign Brunson to make them competitive, taking on Harris to help the Nets retain Cam Johnson, taking on Bog to help Utah expedite their rebuild. Troy helped other teams out without the Pistons gaining anything from it. I was okay with Bogdanovic, but he should have been traded by now as his value has diminished. We’re seeing the same useless moves done repeatedly. How can I not call attention to it, I’ve been watching this team since the Microwave hit the jumper at 007 and this is the worst run we’ve ever had. There’s been numerous major trades in the past year, why havent the names I mentioned above been moved yet?

 

[dh86]

Weaver was presented to be a scouting wiz, since 2020, has any of the g league/summer league guys stuck? Does anyone think Umude or Rhoden are going to stick and get real contracts? He’s looking like Bob Quinn in the light

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Bagley and Wiseman aren’t minimum players, they combine for $25 million. The Warriors were staring down financial armageddon this year because of the luxury tax and Troy swooped in to save them. The Pistons didn’t get anything out of doing so. Troy did the same thing taking Burks and Noel so the Knicks can sign Brunson to make them competitive, taking on Harris to help the Nets retain Cam Johnson, taking on Bog to help Utah expedite their rebuild. Troy helped other teams out without the Pistons gaining anything from it. I was okay with Bogdanovic, but he should have been traded by now as his value has diminished. We’re seeing the same useless moves done repeatedly. How can I not call attention to it, I’ve been watching this team since the Microwave hit the jumper at 007 and this is the worst run we’ve ever had. There’s been numerous major trades in the past year, why havent the names I mentioned above been moved yet?

Yeah, the salaries aren't even in a good space. Wiseman makes more than Cade and he gets dnps consistently and Bojan, as the highest paid, is a money pit too. I don't know what the hell Weaver is doing honestly.

 

[dh86]

Yeah, the salaries aren't even in a good space. Wiseman makes more than Cade and he gets dnps consistently and Bojan, as the highest paid, is a money pit too. I don't know what the hell Weaver is doing honestly.

Troy took all of our cap room the last few years only to save other teams of their mess, with nothing in return. We may as well overpaid a good player or kept Grant for that. I don’t have faith that Harris and Burks gonna do anything for the pistons but be bought out in the spring and Wiseman deal just gonna expire and be useless. I assumed the Bagley deal was a prelude as a throw in for a trade for a star but no one believes that now. Troy gonna have to prove me wrong

 

[djthegreat88]

These bad boy theme jerseys

Pistons need a rebrand bad. There current look is so generic. Feels like they been wearing same jerseys since going to work days

 

[NormanConnors]

it sounds like Monty knows it's a long season and probably a lengthy rebuild. I interpret this as him demanding effort and IQ on defense regardless of how talented the player is on offense. That probably explains Killian minutes. I don't know because I didn't get league pass this year. Is Killian reliable on defense?

Killian is in there for IQ across the board, 3pt shot isn't always there (which is some weird shyt to trip about imo) but he is a smart player

 

[IrateMastermind]

Killian is in there for IQ across the board, 3pt shot isn't always there (which is some weird shyt to trip about imo) but he is a smart player

I wanna get league pass so bad, but last year killed me. Cade being hurt killed its value for me. The other issue is there's always a star on "load management" during the other games i'd watch. That, or it's on TNT/ESPN. I don't know what to do, I really can't speak on this team intelligently without it