Mobb Deep - Murda Muzik - 20th Anniversary Celebration

[Danie84]

So young that you wouldn't even exPect to be bursting off guns like a Vietnam Vet

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Yeah I heard the retail when it came out, years later I started digging into their entire discography and checked the bootleg MM cuts on YT. Only started REALLY bumpin' rap in 97/98 as a youngin

Dope!

I've noticed a pattern with Mobb Deep that usually people's favorite album of theirs (out of the big 3) is the first one they heard. People might say, "No shyt. That's true with most artists" but it seems to happen with Mobb at an even higher rate. Murda Muzik is their album that I can lay the most no matter what mood I'm in. I like HOE and TI more if it's fall or winter, or if I'm in an aggressive mood, but I can pretty easily bump MM anytime of the year without having to be in a Mobb Deep mod first.

 

[shopant]

Yeah this is a good find. I like the deeper bass but I do think I prefer the final version with the intro and the Hav hook.

Here's some fun Mobb trivia (@old boy you might dig this)...Havoc was asked if there was any beat he could go back and re-work, and he said Quiet Storm was easily his top choice. He said he never thought he got the bass quite the way he wanted it, and that he'd tweak the drums a little bit if he could go back. Also, Quiet Storm was the inspiration for Got It Twisted. Alc liked that Hav took an 80's sample like White Lines

Spoiler

and flipped it into something sinister that was also catchy and could make it on the radio. He wanted to make a joint for them that could be a single, and Prodigy's nickname was Science, so he took another 80's sample (She Blinded Me With Science) and also went for the same "turn it into something sinister but catchy" sound. I mean there's no question that Quiet Storm is a better song but I always thought that was a cool story.

Here is a story about mixing Quiet storm. I suppose the other producer from the story must be steve sola? I love how the beginning of the album version is more dramatic. It's also funny how both Sola and Nastee claim putting thunder and storm at the beginning.



Steve Sola Interview:
Producer's Corner: Steve Sola Explains Working With Mobb Deep For 15 Years, The Label Not Feeling "Quiet Storm"


However, it's a definiton of a classic track, actually both Quiet Storm and Got it twisted are classics. Some of the coldest / darkest club bangers ever.


Btw, this performance is fire. Kim really brought that energy in addition to Noyd wilding on the mic as always (in a positive way :bandanap5: )

We can discuss this in a few months when it's the HNIC 20th anniversary, but I wish Pile Raps and Basics had gone on there.

HNIC 20th anniversary is actually next year.

 

[InfamousThoro]

I'm late as fukk with this but let me chime in on this amazing album.

Just imagine this though. Without the bootleg we wouldn't have gotten It's Mine and that track is beyond fire. And to comment on @mobbinfms and @TheDarceKnight. Thug Muzik originally had Mike Delorean from Bars & Hooks on it but was replaced by Prodigy.


They took the Prodigy verse at the end of Murda Muzik and put it on Thug Muzik. Originaly Murda Muzik was a long ass track.

the full version of 3 the hard way or 3 from NYC was released on the Mobb Misses part 2 CD by J-Love. There where snippets on Mobb Misses part 1 and the HNIC part 1 mixtape but it didn't get released until 2002.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I'm late as fukk with this but let me chime in on this amazing album.


They took the Prodigy verse at the end of Murda Muzik and put it on Thug Muzik. Originaly Murda Muzik was a long ass track.

You're never late to a Mobb thread. You may not be here when it starts but you're always on time.

at the bolded. Is there a version of this Murda Muzik track anywhere with P's Thug Muzik verse at the end?

This is gonna sound mad dumb, but I always liked Murda Muzik (the title track) but it was never one of my favorites because of where it was placed on the retail. After bumping the bootleg this week and hearing it as the intro track, I've listened to it every day for about a week, and I appreciate that shyt way more now that it's not awkwardly crammed in between Thug Muzik and The Realest.

EDIT: I got this take from Evidence, but anytime you've got multiple producers on your album, I think it tends to sound best when their beats are placed next to each other, if possible. The beats were usually made in the same machine, probably mixed the same, etc. So that's why I've mentioned a couple times in this thread why I think Thug Muzik and The Realest vibe well when played back to back, like on the bootleg. Evidence was saying he couldn't get the track sequence right for his last album, so he noticed he had a lot of 2 beats from different producers. So he put the 2 Budgie joints together, the 2 pairs of Alc joints together, the 2 Nottz joints together, his 2 joints together, etc, and it made the album flow sound better.

 

[InfamousThoro]

You're never late to a Mobb thread. You may not be here when it starts but you're always on time.

at the bolded. Is there a version of this Murda Muzik track anywhere with P's Thug Muzik verse at the end?

This is gonna sound mad dumb, but I always liked Murda Muzik (the title track) but it was never one of my favorites because of where it was placed on the retail. After bumping the bootleg this week and hearing it as the intro track, I've listened to it every day for about a week, and I appreciate that shyt way more now that it's not awkwardly crammed in between Thug Muzik and The Realest.

EDIT: I got this take from Evidence, but anytime you've got multiple producers on your album, I think it tends to sound best when their beats are placed next to each other, if possible. The beats were usually made in the same machine, probably mixed the same, etc. So that's why I've mentioned a couple times in this thread why I think Thug Muzik and The Realest vibe well when played back to back, like on the bootleg. Evidence was saying he couldn't get the track sequence right for his last album, so he noticed he had a lot of 2 beats from different producers. So he put the 2 Budgie joints together, the 2 pairs of Alc joints together, the 2 Nottz joints together, his 2 joints together, etc, and it made the album flow sound better.

Sure there is, here you go: https://www86.zippyshare.com/v/9m4tmbrq/file.html

Personally I like the delivery of the Thug Muzik verse better. There's more emotion in it. I always liked the Murda Muzik track and think the album should've started with it since that's the album title

 

[BUSINESS AS USUAL]

this album was beyond fire..like another level..only one track i skip is eightball mjg ish..rest are all knockin..cant even pick a favorite and quiet storm has to be a top 10 single of all time

 

[x2y]

This album is a certified classic. damn 20 years?

 

[THE 101]

"Dunn these nikkaz is actresses, and they tryin to play the man's role
Can't they see us wildin on the video?
Don't they see us in the club swingin elbows?
Or on the street with our jewels on the cell phone?"

Love how P starts this verse.

Allustrious and Adrenaline back to back is

Them church organs

 

[Kaydigi]

I wish Thrill Me was on the retail

 

[Asicz]

21 year anniversary now

 

[Pop123]

H.O.E.
Infamous
MM

I'll put them shyts against any other rappers/groups top 3 and I would probably win.

 

[drugxglory]

“Blast out the pockets of coats”

 

[Stick Up Kid]

This will forever be a Top 10 track for me

 

[TheDarceKnight]

This will forever be a Top 10 track for me