Missouri Pastor’s fiery speech against gay rights

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Can you refute that point?

Sure, Ephesians 6:5-9

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free.

And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Just like you, they didn't read the whole thing.​

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

This is such a clownish analogy that I'm not sure why I'm responding to it. No one wants to trample on religious people's rights to their ignorant bigotry. This is a secular nation, though, and religious prejudices can't be the law of the land.

The proper analogies to religious people trying to make gay marriage illegal here would be if Hindus were campaigning to make beef illegal, if Jews and Muslims were campaigning to make pork illegal.

I don't care if gay marriage is legal or not.

I don't like the attack on religious people and especially DON'T the connection to the plights of Minorities in the united states. That's not okay.

white liberals and their colored enablers like yourself, allow them to talk this way, and it's insulting to me. White liberals are not the protectors of non-whites and they CERTAINLY have not earned the right to speak about minorities so freely. Their "A" in sociology isn't a hood pass. . Sorry.

 

[The Real]

I don't care if gay marriage is legal or not.

I don't like the attack on religious people and especially DON'T the connection to the plights of Minorities in the united states. That's not okay.

white liberals and their colored enablers like yourself, allow them to talk this way, and it's insulting to me.

So you don't like the "attack" on religious people, but you don't care about the religious bloc's attack on the secularism that was foundational to this nation?

 

[Type Username Here]

Sure, Ephesians 6:5-9

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free.

And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Just like you, they didn't read the whole thing.​

So if they treated them as property but were good to them it would be okay to have them as slaves? Seems like the Bible is contradicting itself. Hmmm

Sure, and just like you, you didn't read the whole thing either.

On sinning and judging:

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...

Why are they judging sinners? Seems like a command to me.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

So you don't like the "attack" on religious people, but you don't care about the religious bloc's attack on the secularism that was foundational to this nation?

They are an organized special interest group that has the legal right to influence politics in like any other interest group.

 

[Type Username Here]

They are an organized special interest group that has the legal right to influence politics in like any other interest group.

Except the Constitution forbids it.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So if they treated them as property but were good to them it would be okay to have them as slaves? Seems like the Bible is contradicting itself. Hmmm

No. Read a few more chapters (in total) and get into the history of the region at that time and you'll understand.​

Why are they judging sinners? Seems like a command to me.

That's a warning NOT to judge others......​

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Except the Constitution forbids it.

The constitution doesn't forbid an interest group from lobbying and organizing for policy or supporting it.

If the majority of a state is devote Christians and they happen to vote-down gay marriage, I don't see anything illegal or wrong with it.

The supreme court decides what is constitutional not you.

 

[porque]

Sure, Ephesians 6:5-9

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free.

And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Just like you, they didn't read the whole thing.​

did you really just come back with that? its ok to have slaves just dont mistreat them

 

[The Real]

They are an organized special interest group that has the legal right to influence politics in like any other interest group.

No, they don't. I know your poli sci 101 status sometimes, but seriously... do you know that the combination of the establishment clause and the legal status of Churches as institutions mean for religious law?

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

No, they don't. I know your poli sci 101 status sometimes, but seriously... do you know that the combination of the establishment clause and the legal status of Churches as institutions mean for religious law?

Okay show me where in the constitution that it forbids the church from supporting policy or candidates?


Karl rove used the church to get Bush elected. I guess that was illegal?

 

[DANKTHRONE]

lollin @ quoting Leviticus. Why don't Evangelical Christians try to pass constitutional amendments banning cotton/poly blends? Or eating shellfish?

Leviticus 19:19 "You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together."

Leviticus 11:10 "But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you." And shellfish is right in that wheelhouse.

It's so demonic, friends.

 

[Atlrocafella]

Dope.

 

[5n0man]

The constitution doesn't forbid an interest group from lobbying and organizing for policy or supporting it.

If the majority of a state is devote Christians and they happen to vote-down gay marriage, I don't see anything illegal or wrong with it.

The supreme court decides what is constitutional not you.

You exposing yourself breh, first its ok to have slaves as long as you don't treat them to bad? What aboult the fact that they are people and your saying its ok to treat humans like property.

Now its cool for religion to effect laws?

Just like you don't wanna be force fed gay agendas, not every body wants to be force fed christian agendas

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[acri1]

Okay show me where in the constitution that it forbids the church from supporting policy or candidates?


Karl rove used the church to get Bush elected. I guess that was illegal?

I don't know if it's constitutionally legal or not, but it's still illegal for churches to endorse political candidates.

Johnson Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Johnson Amendment refers to a change in the U.S. tax code made in 1954 which prohibited tax-exempt organizations from endorsing or opposing political candidates.

Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.

If nothing else, churches that do so ought to be taxed.