Microsoft vision for Xbox future on 15th February on the official Xbox podcast at 12pm PT. 3PM ET. 8pm GMT

[Diondon]

 

[Fatboi1]

This is literally @The Mad Titan 's talking points lmao

 

[Methodical]

Am I missing something or what?

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Am I missing something or what?

‘There’s going to be more change’: Phil Spencer speaks on Indy PS5 news | VGC

Exec claims Xbox console player numbers this year are “as high as they’ve ever been”…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

Case by case basis means just that

Case by case, y'all want them to commit to things that they aren't willing to because they aren't sure. Therefore games going to other platforms are case by case, which means they might start, stop and start again.

Phil is saying that to placate you. I remember when Quantum Break was released day and date on the PC. Phil said that going forwards PC releases will be a case by case basis

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Phil is saying that to placate you. I remember when Quantum Break was released day and days on the PC. Phil said that going forwards PC releases will be a case by case basis

 

[daze23]

Phil is saying that to placate you. I remember when Quantum Break was released day and date on the PC. Phil said that going forwards PC releases will be a case by case basis

Spencer explains that Microsoft are “committed to bringing [the] biggest franchises from Xbox to Windows, we’ve said that” but that it “doesn’t mean, necessarily, that every game ends up on both platforms, because there could be some differences in how things play.”

sounds like they committed to bringing their games to PC, but left some wiggle room if certain games weren't ported for whatever reason

edit: yall bring up this quote like Phil was reassuring console players some games would remain exclusive to consoles. really it was a statement for PC Gamers, so they wouldn't say "b-b-but you promised..." if a certain game stayed on consoles

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

sounds like they committed to bringing their games to PC, but left some wiggle room if certain games weren't ported for whatever reason

edit: yall bring up this quote like Phil was reassuring console players some games would remain exclusive to consoles. really it was a statement for PC Gamers, so they wouldn't say "b-b-but you promised..." if a certain game stayed on consoles

So doublespeak and marketing talk. This is the issue SOME Xbox fans have with Phil Spencer.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So doublespeak and marketing talk. This is the issue SOME Xbox fans have with Phil Spencer.

It’s not doublespeak to be honest about future possibilities.

Things change quickly in the industry and the honest thing to do is to say that.

It’s weird yall would rather be lied to.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Phil Spencer: Xbox's New Plan Is 'Not A Change To Our Fundamental Exclusive Strategy'

"We're making these decisions for some specific reasons"

www.purexbox.com

Phil Spencer On Game Exclusivity: 'We Have To Anticipate There's Going To Be More Change'

The Xbox boss weighs in

www.purexbox.com

He’s not a liar, things change!

It would just be easier to admit that no matter what this man says or does yall would defend it

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Sony stan strategy is to remove context then play dumb.

I think as an industry right now, there's a lot of pressure on the industry... it's been growing for a long time, now people are looking for [new] ways to grow. Us as fans, as players of games, we just have to anticipate there's going to be more change in some of the traditional ways that games are built and distributed... that's going to change, it's going to change for all of us.

We're making these decisions for some specific reasons. We make every decision, really, with the long-term health of Xbox in mind. And long-term health of Xbox means a growing platform, our games performing, building the best platform for creators, reaching as many players as we can."

Full context these statements aren’t contradictory.

Y’all would rather be straight up lied to

Went from “not all games will come.

Don't Expect All PlayStation Exclusives To Come To PC, Says Sony

Despite announcing Horizon Zero Dawn for PC, Sony says it won't be the rule.

www.gamespot.com

To “after two years”

Sony Studios boss says not to expect future PS5 exclusives to hit PC at launch

Hermen Hulst says that if you want PlayStation games at launch, then you should get a PlayStation console.

www.pcgamer.com

To “after one year”

PlayStation exclusive games will release on PC one year later from now on - Dexerto

According to PlayStation Studios Head Hermen Hulst, PlayStation’s exclusive single-player games will begin releasing on PC after one year.

www.dexerto.com

To “only multiplayer”
x.com

Less than a week later




But yall in here talmbout xbox tho

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Sony stan strategy is to remove context then play dumb.





Full context these statements aren’t contradictory.

Y’all would rather be straight up lied to

Went from “not all games will come.

Don't Expect All PlayStation Exclusives To Come To PC, Says Sony

Despite announcing Horizon Zero Dawn for PC, Sony says it won't be the rule.

www.gamespot.com

To “after two years”

Sony Studios boss says not to expect future PS5 exclusives to hit PC at launch

Hermen Hulst says that if you want PlayStation games at launch, then you should get a PlayStation console.

www.pcgamer.com

To “after one year”

PlayStation exclusive games will release on PC one year later from now on - Dexerto

According to PlayStation Studios Head Hermen Hulst, PlayStation’s exclusive single-player games will begin releasing on PC after one year.

www.dexerto.com

To “only multiplayer”
x.com

Less than a week later




But yall in here talmbout xbox tho

I thought you put me on ignore

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Xbox Needs To Pick A Lane, And Soon

At this point, Microsoft needs to simply pick a lane for Xbox, and one singular release strategy, even if it’s not the one fans want to hear.

www.forbes.com

There is no reversion possible now. Pandora's Box is open and Microsoft has demonstrated they are willing to share really any game that would have formerly been exclusive with even their oldest rivals like PlayStation. They are not simply going to walk that back and in some cases, like Call of Duty, they cannot walk that back. The same is true for Overwatch and Diablo at Blizzard, which of course aren't going to be stripped from PlayStation.

The strategy now has to be one of band-aid pulling. Go third party developer. Release everything on Xbox and PS5 at the same time, with of course, one main caveat, Xbox players get all these games on Game Pass day one. PlayStation players have to buy them. I think that's as good as you're going to get, given where things are now.

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There is little point trying to crawl back toward Sony in console sales. What was previously a 2:1 ratio in Sony's favor as of late may be closer to 5:1, according to analysts. Even Phil Spencer admits there's just no competing on that front anymore.

It devalues the Xbox brand, but guess what? That's already happened. The Xbox community has become barely a community at all recently in the wake of these confusing PlayStation announcements. What was once the idea that Xbox was buying devs to revive the console and create a slate to compete with Sony's much-heralded first party studios is simply not happening. And again, there's no going back now.

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Xbox is currently caught between three or four different strategies right now. It needs to be simplified:

- Release Xbox studio games on PS5 day one at full price.
- Release Xbox studio games day one of Game Pass for "free," with no confusing new tiers.
- Rely on the idea that the best place to play those Game Pass games is Xbox hardware, even if cloud streaming and (expensive) PCs make Game Pass playable elsewhere.
- Admit to yourself that you have sacrificed what once was a loyal community in the name of "we want everyone to play Xbox games as many places as possible" which has finally manifested in PlayStation releases. You won't win them back, it's done.

Is this a great path forward? No, but I would argue it's better than whatever the hell is going on now, which is a confusing mess, hurting the brand and upsetting players anyway, and a system that is trying to have it both ways when that's effectively no longer really possible.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I thought you put me on ignore

Naw i’ll keep you around so i can call you a lying fakkit every chance i get.

You lying ass fakkit you

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Naw i’ll keep you around so i can call you a lying fakkit every chance i get.

You lying ass fakkit you