Microsoft / Activision Deal Leaves Sony Stans in Shambles | M$ Wins Fight Against FTC

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Meh, no need to try and pin this as maga spin.

Khan had made it clear they intend to litigate all big mergers. It’s ideological, so taking an FTC suit to necessarily mean these mergers are particularly harmful or won’t go through is just reading it wrong.

yep, they immediately sued to block, before they started actually looking into the deal
 

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Yea I'm reading on Era now that CMA apparently got that work in court today

South Korea now in the group supporting....now confident MS gonna try to bully this sale through. Gonna rewrite a new deal and leave the UK out of cloud streaming completely......that political pressure gonna be something


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All this for what cod...and what else blizzard and blizzards shyt don't push consoles

Just because they don't want to make games inhouse
They have more in house AAA games in the pipeline than any other company not named Nintendo. Actually, they making way more than Nintendo NOW with Al the studios they acquired.

Nintendo does the same thing, they acquire studios, and they definitely acquire talent from other studios. So you sound butt hurt
 

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Even Sony knows the decision from the CMA is bullshyt.
The problem keeps being that y'all read "cloud gaming" as live streaming the entire game

But if you read the CMA report, THEY view "cloud gaming" as gamepass, psn plus, etc.... Places where you download games off the cloud, then play them locally

Sony is speaking on the live streaming here but opposes Gamepass getting activision games solely for sale/play there
 

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The problem keeps being that y'all read "cloud gaming" as live streaming the entire game

But if you read the CMA report, THEY view "cloud gaming" as gamepass, psn plus, etc.... Places where you download games off the cloud, then play them locally

Sony is speaking on the live streaming here but opposes Gamepass getting activision games solely for sale/play there
You're wrong, if you read the CMA report they see cloud gaming as a service that allows people to stream games without having to buy a particular platform. They think that 10 years from now streaming games could be the norm and that microsoft owning popular franchises like call of duty will give their service an unfair advantage.

The reason the CMA conclusions are bullshyt is because cloud gaming shows no evidence of replacing the current business model in the industry. There were much better reasons to block the deal than the one they gave.
 

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The problem keeps being that y'all read "cloud gaming" as live streaming the entire game

But if you read the CMA report, THEY view "cloud gaming" as gamepass, psn plus, etc.... Places where you download games off the cloud, then play them locally

Sony is speaking on the live streaming here but opposes Gamepass getting activision games solely for sale/play there
They said Microsoft had a 70% market share or something similar to that. If their argument is cloud gaming is the same as downloading games and playing them then the argument collapses on itself. That means Steam is cloud gaming. PSN. Nintendo Online. It just further weakens their case.
 

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You're wrong, if you read the CMA report they see cloud gaming as a service that allows people to stream games without having to buy a particular platform. They think that 10 years from now streaming games could be the norm and that microsoft owning popular franchises like call of duty will give their service an unfair advantage.

The reason the CMA conclusions are bullshyt is because cloud gaming shows no evidence of replacing the current business model in the industry. There were much better reasons to block the deal than the one they gave.
The Cma is right, in ten years Sony not being future proof will lead to them exiting the console market and will become Netflix gaming basically. Sony already been negotiating with Microsoft over how they'll do it but I'm assuming they ultimately don't love the offer after proclaiming their business with Microsoft is "deepening" (pause)
 

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You're wrong, if you read the CMA report they see cloud gaming as a service that allows people to stream games without having to buy a particular platform. They think that 10 years from now streaming games could be the norm and that microsoft owning popular franchises like call of duty will give their service an unfair advantage.

The reason the CMA conclusions are bullshyt is because cloud gaming shows no evidence of replacing the current business model in the industry. There were much better reasons to block the deal than the one they gave.
They said Microsoft had a 70% market share or something similar to that. If their argument is cloud gaming is the same as downloading games and playing them then the argument collapses on itself. That means Steam is cloud gaming. PSN. Nintendo Online. It just further weakens their case.
That is why I said from jump, they don't know what they're talking about. But look at this part of the report:


Microsoft has a strong position in cloud gaming services and the evidence available to the CMA showed that Microsoft would find it commercially beneficial to make Activision’s games exclusive to its own cloud gaming service.

Microsoft already accounts for an estimated 60-70% of global cloud gaming services and has other important strengths in cloud gaming from owning Xbox, the leading PC operating system (Windows) and a global cloud computing infrastructure (Azure and Xbox Cloud Gaming).

The deal would reinforce Microsoft’s advantage in the market by giving it control over important gaming content such as Call of Duty, Overwatch, and World of Warcraft. The evidence available to the CMA indicates that, absent the merger, Activision would start providing games via cloud platforms in the foreseeable future.




Ok so why would Microsoft buy Activision and put all the games on the cloud only, but not PC or Xbox? In what world could a current COD even be played on the cloud? Why do they then list PC and XBOX as strengths in cloud gaming when they just said they wouldn't put games on PC and XBOX if it went through? Why if they denied the merger, would Activision then start making games for "cloud platforms" when there are no cloud platforms outside of MS and what happens to console and PC users when they do?


Seems like, again, they don't know what the fukk cloud gaming is
 
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