Michelle Obama criticizes black youth for worship of Rappers & Sport Stars

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Here is the thing though, she basically knew that it would get that national coverage and trickle down to individuals just like it has on the board. So she picked the right way to do it. Whether she travels to 100 local schools or just does it once the message got out.

There is a way to EFFECTIVELY deliver a speech and delivering it to the wrong audience isn't the way to do it.

It's interesting...when Bill Cosby said this years ago, he was lambasted (and he spoke to his audience)...I hope that the first couple will give an even critique to other groups the way they do blacks.
 

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the first lady of the united states with ivy league education and earning power on her solo merits of $300K+ year salary before running for office... can be whatever she wants.

Maybe she should be a better example. Condemning celebrities then putting it into the media you want to be one sends mixes signals. Her accolades are cemented so now, what is she inspiring the youth to be, Beyonce? Stop it.
 

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How the Obama Administration Talks to Black America
"Convenient race-talk" from a president who ought to know better

How the Obama Administration Talks to Black America - Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic

I think the president owes black people more than this. In the 2012 election, the black community voted at a higher rate than any other ethnic community in the country. Their vote went almost entirely to Barack Obama. They did this despite of an effort to keep them from voting, and they deserve more than a sermon. Perhaps they cannot practically receive targeted policy. But surely they have earned something more than targeted scorn.
 

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You are ridiculous.. There u go pointing fingers when the real excuse is at home and u r not taking care of it. Thanks for going out of your way to direct and attack at me even though the fact of the matter says we r talking About the Americans ObAma was addressing... You are going all over the place and to guess what I critisize the same people in Jamaica who are ignorant for the same but you want to take it as an attack.. At the end of the day u don't want to admit any prob but instead attack and talk about Jamaican being low class at the end of the day I am going to eat... And that is definitely media portrayal of Kingston because Kingston also has he most wealthy people.. Billionaires sick areas with people living beyond what u would dream of achieving...I speak the truth and been backing up what obamas said I also speak on crime and poverty in my country it ... I keep it 100 unlike you who are now shifting the focus and making excuses...that rant right there was out of pure bitterness lol

Point the finger elsewhere to take the attention off of what is your own backyard...notice obama was addressing the people in America, these are your problems and mine because I live here

So, it's ok for you to talk about my people, put it's not ok for me to talk about your people.


Really :childplease:



It's the whole pot calling the kettle black.
 

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There is a way to EFFECTIVELY deliver a speech and delivering it to the wrong audience isn't the way to do it.

It's interesting...when Bill Cosby said this years ago, he was lambasted (and he spoke to his audience)...I hope that the first couple will give an even critique to other groups the way they do blacks.

You are taking a brief portion of her speech to draw a conclusion on the entire speech. This is what the media want's you to do, hence the headlines they use. It's sensationalism at it's finest. What other part of her speech do you agree or disagree with? I can almost guarantee you have to go look at the entire transcript now to comment because you haven't yet.
 

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So, it's ok for you to talk about my people, put it's not ok for me to talk about your people.


Really :childplease:



It's the whole pot calling the kettle black.

I know that you were trying to do didnt I just say I talk about my people that are ignorant too:snoop: to try and say something to entrap me is so juvenile
 

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I know that you were trying to do didnt I just say I talk about my people that are ignorant too:snoop: to try and say something to entrap me is so juvenile

You also defended them by saying "that's media perception"

Can you admit that that little rant invoked some of the same responses from you that you got from people in this thread?
 

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You also defended them by saying "that's media perception"

Can you admit that that little rant invoked some of the same responses from you that you got from people in this thread?

You are talking about dangerous city and when people here speak of Kingston it's straight up crime, they never been I can tell u first hand I live it... I can also tell about american society because exposed to it.. That's the difference here I criticize Americans and Jamaicans who are f***ing up, I also praise black excellence also and post on that too... The whole thread is about us having to step up and me calling things out for what they are is exactly what I been doing.. Not sugar coating
 

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Damned if you do / Damned if you don't.

Truthfully, I don't care how they said it or who they said it to.. The truth is the truth..lol
 

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Also in an odd way , I have no problem with a lot of our kids wanting to become Sports stars as long as it

- Keeps them off the streets
- They go to college ( and get a degree )
- Maintain good grades
- Have a backup plan.


I don't care why they are in college getting an education, its a lot better than being a walking zombie. But the parent must stress a backup plan to their child.
 

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Damned if you do / Damned if you don't.

Truthfully, I don't care how they said it or who they said it to.. The truth is the truth..lol

And the same nikkas complaining will be mad when Obama doesn't address the black community. They will be mad if Obama gives a speech talking about how the black community is in good shape and doing things the right way. They would be in here posting videos of WSHH ratchets, talkin bout "yeah Obama, we doing great huh" The against the grain thing is something I see by a small few in real life but on the coli they are becoming the majority.
 

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You are talking about dangerous city and when people here speak of Kingston it's straight up crime, they never been I can tell u first hand I live it... I can also tell about american society because exposed to it..
Well this is what I've been trying to explain to you this entire time. That post was the exact same as your posts about black Americans. He was speaking from a place of ignorance and flawed perception, not reality.

You understand the people and the problems of your own country you've been there. Their problems are yours. So even though you say you condemn their ignorance with each post you throw in an "excuse"(as you would call it) "that's the media" "it's a dangerous city"

You are judging black Americans in much the same way. You don't identify with their struggle, and all you can see is what the media and wordlstarhiphop shows you.

You have a very limited understanding of the plight of black people in America. Yes you are here and yes you are subject to current racism/oppression but that is only part of the equation. There as been a systemic attempt at total genocide of a people an this soil. And that attempt has only been officially off the books for 50 years. My grandmother is 94. So in half of my grandmothers life time, you expect all black Americans to just throw this legacy in the bushes and push forward as if it didn't happen? Sorry but that's not reality. People were torn down and stripped of EVERYTHING on this soil while your parents grew up in Jamaica. It's easy to look at what's available now and downplay these realities but unless you've experienced this legacy or your actively trying to fix it, then You shouldn't be passing judgement on anyone, because you truly don't understand.
 

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I know that you were trying to do didnt I just say I talk about my people that are ignorant too:snoop: to try and say something to entrap me is so juvenile

Then you shouldn't have responded back. :what:

I actually been to Kingston on a church missionary trip, that my mother drag me to come when I was 14. And what I experience was a 85% shytt hole. We traveled all around the metro area.


So, don't get mad. Because the truth is the truth.
 

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NO

NO

NO.

The point is Obama is telling them: "look, after I leave the past DOES NOT MATTER any more. NO ONE CARES what you go through"

Obama knows once he leaves, the game changes for black people.

In the eyes of the majority, there WILL BE NO RACISM any more.

Thats what you don't get. They won't give a flying fukk about what you went through. So soak it up now. Indulge in who and what I am today...but when I leave office, you have to fend for yourselves.

OBAMA IS THE NEW STANDARD AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, ROLL OVER AND DIE. THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO ANYWAYS.

PERIOD.

If black people don't get it together, by 2016, its REALLY a wrap for them.

Literally.


We've got no time for excuses -- not because the bitter legacies of
slavery and segregation have vanished entirely; they haven't. Not
because racism and discrimination no longer exist; that's still out
there. It's just that in today's hyper-connected, hyper-competitive
world, with a billion young people from China and India and Brazil
entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you
anything you haven't earned.



nikkas will do anything to avoid putting in work. :wow:

Told ya'll.

Obama is laying down the law and is telling you nikkas to get ready.





Barack Obama: Incidental black man? - Salon.com

Barack Obama: Incidental black man?
The president gets personal at Morehouse College, as hard questions loom for black men and his presidency

BY RICH BENJAMIN

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TOPICS: BLACK, RACE, COMMENCEMENT SPEECHES, BARACK OBAMA, EDITOR'S PICKS, LATINOS, IMMIGRATION, IMMIGRATION REFORM, DISPARITY, POVERTY, RECESSION, POLITICS NEWS

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Barack Obama gives the commencement address at Morehouse College, May 19, 2013. (Credit: Reuters/Jason Reed)

With all the distracting controversies piling on his political plate, who could blame President Obama for getting reflective at his recent commencement speech to Morehouse College graduates? Who could blame the first black president, typically a cool arbiter of analysis and restraint, for getting personal in his remarks to his receptive, brotherly crowd?

How does a black president deliver 2013 Morehouse graduates realistic advice and a pep talk at the same time? How can he optimistically send them forth — with straight talk, or a straight face?

The average white family has about $632,000 in wealth, versus $98,000 for black families. The overall unemployment rate for whites is 6.7 percent, versus 13 percent for blacks, generally. The unemployment rate for black young adults ages 16 to 24 — those outside the commencement halls — is 25 percent, on par with Spanish- or Greek-level joblessness.

Health. College enrollment. Work. Income. Inheritance. The racial gaps are so appalling, this black man is wary to share them. If not properly contextualized, reciting the numbers can have the reverse effect: Hearing the drumbeat of disparities often backfires, and it subconsciously confirms blacks’ seeming inferiority in many white Americans’ minds. Many people privately believe these differences are rooted in blacks’ shortcomings, not in unequal opportunity or history. Indeed, white Americans believe they suffer more racial bias than blacks do, according to a study conducted by Harvard and Tufts Universities in 2011.

If anything, the president’s commencement speech to Morehouse College has an ironic whiff. The poignant nostalgia springs from the first black president addressing black men, both of whom appear to be in the twilight of their power.

As the president cannily knows, blacks are no longer America’s largest minority. How can this writer forget, soon after the president’s inauguration, all the reports that announced black Americans’ declining population share, a news flash that hit some of us like an eviction notice. Hey, effective immediately, the Latinos have ousted the blacks as America’s largest minority! Now the president is doing his best to master the politics of a quickly demographically shifting nation to achieve immigration reform. As an incidental black man.

The predicament of other black men, the president insisted to the graduates, is not just a result of technological change and globalization. He put partial blame at his brothers’ own feet.

“In today’s hyper-connected, hyper-competitive world, with millions of young people from China and India and Brazil, many of whom started with a whole lot less than all of you did, all of them entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you anything you haven’t earned,” said the president. “Nobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination.”

As Barack Obama winds down an impressive two terms in office, the historic novelty, from a racial milestone, is now obsolete. Black “firsts” are becoming obsolete. So the idea of a “black president” is obsolete. The president surely understands the quaintness and nostalgia of this commencement occasion, with its creaking racial symbolism.

Another thorny question lingers: Is Morehouse itself obsolete? Is the black male liberal arts college obsolete in a supposedly post-black, post-feminist, post-masculinist, globalized, techno-world?

This recession is throwing non–college educated black men under the bus. With or without a black president. Is it also putting a final nail in their coffin, as it were? Leaving us behind? The dark backdrop to the president’s address is black men’s viability in a 21st century world.


Images of Forrest Whitaker in “Ghost Dog” haunt me. As the president will soon take his exit from office, black men seem to be vanishing from participation and sight — declining as a collective political and economic force, vanishing from participation and sight in all the places that matter in America: the office, the voting booth, the trading floor and the college commencement hall.

you right about all of this...but that mindset the problem is its not being taught to the youth at an early age getting them prepared....even if not in schools yo fam is responsible for you so thats where it gotta start but its not starting yet its gonna hit the all of the young kids the bottomline is get elders gotta get them straight imo i actually agree with Obama on all of this
no excuses but at the same time you gotta put them in that kind of mindset to think on that level
 

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Well, Michelle is right. I am generally sickened by grown ass adults that worship celebrities.

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