Michael Keaton Would Play Batman Again; Explains Passing on ‘Batman Forever’

[Savior]

nah we haven't had a batman movie done properly, every director seems to want to put their own self indulgent spin on it. Burton took a witty gothic operatic approach, schmacher was tongue and cheek camp both franchises seemed to think batman didn't exist before the tv show . Then there was Nolan whose movies behaved as if the genre was beneath it and comics/superheroes was a dirty word.

We need a dude that can respect the source material, have a serious tone while embracing the genre.

Thats what the Batman animated series was for . You can't properly tell a story as big as Batman's in a movie anyway. Always gonna be something left out

 

[BXKingPin82]

Had them all but as Kevin Smith has said on his podcast: This movie should not have a happy meal attached to it lol

 

[MartyMcFly]

Breh if you want to laugh at the insanity of that movie and just laugh period, listen to his fatman on batman commentary for Batman Returns. It's him and a Hollywood Reporter Editor, Marc Benardin (also a brother, black excellence) and it's hilarious

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I think it depends...Dark Knight captured the tone of stuff like the long halloween perfectly. It all depends on which batman you're referring to and which story and which writer

right but in a different way. that "noir" feel was missing from nolan's movies.

and i'm not saying it's a knock on them, because it was obviously it's own distinct take, but for me personally i think batman always lended itself most to noir.

 

[MartyMcFly]

right but in a different way. that "noir" feel was missing from nolan's movies.

and i'm not saying it's a knock on them, because it was obviously it's own distinct take, but for me personally i think batman always lended itself most to noir.

Hm fair enough. I think Dark Knight had a good crime noir vibe to it but obviously that's subjective.

@BXKingPin82 he's got other commentary's too and it's just a good podcast to listen to if you're a fan of Batman..He and Marc did commentaries for Batman and Batman Forever and he's had Paul Dini on and they did some commentary on Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker

 

[Rapmastermind]

Burton's Gotham > Nolan's New York, Chicago, LA Gotham.

 

[TheGodling]

Batman Returns is an excellent movie that at times removes logic so it can add more layers.

In essence the entire movie is about the animal totem of Batman, Catwoman and Penguin as people who are driven by tragedy into embracing animal instincts. Notice how in that order the three descend into animals more and more. Batman is really just a guy in a costume, whereas Catwoman embraces cat-like behavior and movements and at the bottom you have Penguin who is pretty much a literal human-animal hybrid. In that same order, their tragedies have all set them on paths of revenge-driven justice. Batman on all of crime (a greater path), Catwoman on her 'murderer' (a neutral path) and Penguin on all of mankind (a misguided path). Max Shreck represents all three paths as the criminal mastermind that drives Batman to seek him out, the murderer of Catwoman who sets her sights on him and the representative of the person Penguin could've been if society had accepted him.

The entire movie is built around that concept and that's why at times the movie has non-sensical bits because they push the theme of the movie and not the story.

 

[Remote]

A buddy of mine said that Karl Urban (based on is role as Judge Dredd) would make a good Batman.

Thoughts?

 

[Roman Brady]

but wouldn't you agree that burton captured the tone better than anyone else has? from the music, to the grim gotham, to the neal adams inspired bat-costume (albeit decked in black), etc.

^^ that looks like it was ripped straight from a comic book.

when batman is fighting catwoman on the rooftops of gotham city, that is how i always envisioned it.

believe me I am the last guy you will hear say Nolan captured the true essense of batman the best. If Burton did it's by default of the others going overboard with their ego/vision of what they wanted batman to be. As for your point even tho I juggle between TDK and returns on which is the best Burton's batman was essentially "60s tv show with a Burton makeover and higher production"

 

[nieman]

he was cool back then, but now knowing more of Bruce's back story especially with the League of Assassins, no way Keaton looked or fought like a trained assassin in Bat 89 and it still funny that he couldn't turn his head in that bat suit

But the Bat-turn became iconic in it's own way and was even incorporated into the animated series.

You have to compare the movies, because they are the same, but I still say the '89 is as close as you can get to the then-modern Batman, in tone and atmosphere, without taking away the comicbook aspect.

sometimes I wish that a director would look at everything that has worked prevously, throughout all of the mythos and see what works and what doesn't, then give their own spin to it. Burton was Burton, that just happened to fit Batman. That's why it works. Schumacher was all camp without the fun. Nolan created his own thing, then threw a bat over it.

You can tell that they try to do it with the Superman films, they just can't recapture that magic of the first.

 

[FlyRy]

i think the burton flicks have aged well

saw em both last year first time in ages

this thread makes me wanna cop the 4 film favorites batman blu collection

 

[Bruce Wayne]

its time to leave batman alone. period....

its been done to death

The Love.
The Hate.
The Facts.
The fukkery.
The Comparisons.
The Discussions.


I've been Reading this in between Meals all day and I'm Loving it.

 

[Lefty Gunz]

The Love.
The Hate.
The Facts.
The fukkery.
The Comparisons.
The Discussions.


I've been Reading this in between Meals all day and I'm Loving it.

Which actor capture the best essence of Bruce Wayne and his alter ego? In your opinion

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

sometimes I wish that a director would look at everything that has worked prevously, throughout all of the mythos and see what works and what doesn't, then give their own spin to it. Burton was Burton, that just happened to fit Batman. That's why it works. Schumacher was all camp without the fun. Nolan created his own thing, then threw a bat over it.

i don't know man, i don't think that's fair. what nolan did with the character is still pretty amazing.

batman isn't defined by any one single interpretation. he's a mythological character. he's a legend. the version of the story you see and hear depends on the one telling it. you wanna know what defines batman? a guy dressed as a bat who wears a cape and fights bad guys. that's pretty much it.

nolan just took that same basic premise and shot it through a lens we hadn't seen before. it was a batman for the real world.

 

[drugxglory]

My fav batman