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1/12
@skdh
Seeing that Zuckerberg wants to introduce Community Notes and YouTube is allegedly trialling something similar, I predict it will be a spectacular failure and in a few years you'll understand why I said this.

Collective intelligence is a nice idea but it's fraught with difficulties in practice. The question how to get groups to be more intelligent than its member has been studied a lot by sociologists and I don't see that X is doing anything to avoid the obvious pitfalls.

This starts with information cascades and anchoring bias and goes all the way to the problem that ultimately the people who will win are those who can afford to invest more time into it.

It's funny how people on this platform complain about the bias on Wikipedia but at the same time believe that they are immune to the same problem.

Really I'm just writing this so that 2 years down the line I can say I told you so.



2/12
@skdh
I talked about collective intelligence in general here: https://invidious.poast.org/watch?v=25kqobiv4ng



3/12
@paulmidler
I’m with you but some say crowd knows best.



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4/12
@skdh
You should read the book because it's actually not what it says.



5/12
@meo_joule
My experience with community notes so far has been great. They'll be fine as long as they cite sources.



6/12
@skdh
and who checks the sources?



7/12
@D555555D
Yes, but what is the alternative? The current system has been incredibly biased/bad. So I accept your claims that the system will be imperfect, but perhaps it will still be better than the terrible censorship that currently exists.



8/12
@skdh
oh I agree that it will be an improvement on facebook, as their censorship algorithm is ridiculous, but it's going to create an entirely new set of problems



9/12
@severian22
Community notes is very flawed but it's still way better than the previous Political Truth Comities.



10/12
@skdh
so far



11/12
@CTFlyMonkey
This is exactly how market economics work. Individuals make good or bad decisions, but the market moves as a cohesive whole as it "smooths the curve".



12/12
@skdh
Markets integration information not for the sake of integrating information but because people can make money from it -- the incentives (theoretically) optimize the distribution of resources. But not everyone has an incentive to see facts truthfully displayed on social media.




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1/40
Jason Koebler

Meta has repeatedly deleted our articles, including ones about Instagram's censorship and disproportionate moderation against trans people. It put a "fact check" warning on an article we did about hurricane helene AI spam proliferating on the platform

Facebook Is Censoring 404 Media Stories About Facebook's Censorship

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2/40
‪Jason Koebler‬ ‪@jasonkoebler.bsky.social‬

Because my profile is tied to the 404 Media account on Facebook, it has threatened my personal account, which I use for reporting and have had since 2005

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3/40
‪Jason Koebler‬ ‪@jasonkoebler.bsky.social‬

Meanwhile it has left up all sorts of violating content and recently readers have been sending us hardcore porn being put into people's feeds as paid advertisements. A research group just found more than 3,000 outright porn ads:

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4/40
‪Mike‬ ‪@mikeweijer.com‬

Last month at CDG airport, I saw big animated screens about how to spot and avoid counterfeit goods on Instagram, paid for by Instagram.
Meanwhile, all the actual fake e-commerce sites that have copied actual brands' websites and advertise on Instagram never get taken down when I report them 🤔

5/40
‪al fair‬ ‪@oofstar.bsky.social‬

by putting the onus on users to tell what’s a scam, they can still make all the grifter money and make it seem like they give a shyt about it.

6/40
‪Karl Bode‬ ‪@karlbode.com‬

but Jason I was informed by prominent news organizations that zuckerberg's primary interest is in free expression

7/40
‪ddll.bsky.social‬ ‪@ddll.bsky.social‬

Looks like he is playing everybody for Zuckers.

8/40
‪Marisa Kabas‬ ‪@marisakabas.bsky.social‬

i had a similar experience last year

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9/40
‪Fred Rocha‬ ‪@johnfisherman.bsky.social‬

Censoring articles on censorship? They're called Meta, duh.

10/40
‪Emily Rose Varno-Begin‬ ‪@earthandbreath.bsky.social‬

Beat me to it lol

11/40
‪oasisthemepark‬ ‪@oasisthemepark.bsky.social‬

Meta's owner has alethophobia.
That's why your articles are being deleted. OTP vp

12/40
‪David Baker‬ ‪@sparky2024.bsky.social‬

You know what would get their attention, calls to nationalize the internet, nationalize social media, search, and service providers. It doesn't have to happen but the threat would at least be a counter balance to Trump pandering. Right now there is no downside for it.

13/40
‪gary1001.bsky.social‬ ‪@gary1001.bsky.social‬

I also found that my posts, which many were political in nature, weren't getting out to others that were on my friend's list. I found it to be happening before the election. After the election, everything seems to have gone back to normal, so far. My eyes are open for the future.

14/40
‪Hellen‬ ‪@hellenbaker.bsky.social‬

Hi Gary would you like to be a friend ?

15/40
‪rogeralien.bsky.social‬ ‪@rogeralien.bsky.social‬

That’s what Zuck meant by freedom - he was looki by for the freedom to delete what he didn’t like

16/40
‪Love that Turbo‬ ‪@vjmcdonnell.bsky.social‬

fukk Meta and their crap platform.
Have deleted all of it and so much better for it.

17/40
‪Andrew‬ ‪@shak-notstired23.bsky.social‬

Me too. Just can't support these fascists any longer. Views = $ and I'm not going to contribute.

18/40
‪Hellen‬ ‪@hellenbaker.bsky.social‬

Hi can you follow me up ?

19/40
‪Corey Quinn‬ ‪@quinnypig.com‬

A piece of shyt leopard doesn’t change its spots. Facebook has always been rotten to its core.

20/40
‪Natanael, Tech janitor‬ ‪@natanael.bsky.social‬

Never trusted them

21/40
‪Paweł - legomyrstan‬ ‪@legomyrstan.bsky.social‬

Oh they did the same thing with report of Polish government cybersecurity agency after they published report about Facebook not dealing with scammers:
Stanowisko CERT Polska dot. ograniczania przez firmę Meta widoczności artykułu na temat oszustw na tej platformie.

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22/40
‪Paweł - legomyrstan‬ ‪@legomyrstan.bsky.social‬

Seem like it’s their new standard practice

23/40
‪Paweł - legomyrstan‬ ‪@legomyrstan.bsky.social‬

Ah they also did that to another blog that posted about CERT Polska report: META zablokowała nam cały profil sekuraka na Facebooku. Powód? Udostępniliśmy wpis CERT Polska ostrzegający o scam-reklamach na FB.

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24/40
‪RobDej‬ ‪@robdej.bsky.social‬

🖕 suckerburg!

25/40
‪FemKat‬ ‪@femkat.bsky.social‬

So they just give up when it comes to somebody says they want to be a dictator. Wait a stand-up for your beliefs, just cave.

26/40
‪sinistan.bsky.social‬ ‪@sinistan.bsky.social‬

TBF YT might go that route too, they already delete comments and censor if it's monetarily advantageous

27/40
‪Joe Krulder‬ ‪@joekrulder.bsky.social‬

Convo with META AI

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28/40
‪Brett "Solidarity 2025" Banditelli‬ ‪@banditelli.org‬

For what it's worth, our one post is up. I wonder if they're manually targeting your page and not the links? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...63unUHJNGl&id=100069415860460&mibextid=Nif5oz

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29/40
‪arrest-them-all🫘‬ ‪@arrest-them-all.bsky.social‬

fakebook and twitter both just arbitrarily delete photos they don't like. fakebook falsely accuses the poster of "sexual content" and sentences poster to 7 days suspension, twitter just deletes the photo and says nothing.

30/40
⚧️Terra Waters‬ ‪@burnterra.bsky.social‬

fukk Zuck
fukk Facebook
fukk threads
fukk Instagram
fukk WhatsApp
Delete delete delete delete delete
fukk Meta

31/40
‪Antoine C.‬ ‪@ancadweb.com‬

They really converted to X version of free speech.

32/40
‪Noelle Schultz‬ ‪@nrvschultz.bsky.social‬

Attn: Bari Weiss, Michael Shellenbarger, and Matt Taibbi. 😂 Jk, we know you were only pretending to care about censorship when it was MAGA voices getting censored!

33/40
‪Mandy Katz‬ ‪@mandyk.bsky.social‬

The censorship is only needed because you insist on reporting … the censorship.

34/40
‪Frumious Bandersnatch‬ ‪@tootsweet2.bsky.social‬

Only chumps and fascists are still there.

35/40
‪ellen l‬ ‪@elove.bsky.social‬

That's how you know it's working 😩

36/40
‪Max Lobur‬ ‪@lobur.bsky.social‬

It’s been braindead for years. Insta was the most alive, and actually doing ok with bots, but since it voluntarily turned itself into tiktok mirror it’s also dead.

37/40
‪Yuzima Philip‬ ‪@yuzimaphilip.bsky.social‬

We really need to abandon Meta. We need them to be blocked by the UK, Germany, Canada, and any country that values its freedom and autonomy.

38/40
‪mcgummin.bsky.social‬ ‪@mcgummin.bsky.social‬



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39/40
‪Patchouli Woollahra‬ ‪@woollahra.bsky.social‬

I do not understand how revealing the ugly, naked truth about Facebook's behaviors can be considered as posting nudity.

40/40
‪Rebellious Resources‬ ‪@rebelliousresource.bsky.social‬

Zero surprise about any of this. IG has been censoring us for at least 2 years, including erroneously suspending our 1st account for a month with no warning, no valid reason, and no recourse. Would be happy to see that platform follow Xitter into the abyss.

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1/35
Alejandra Caraballo

Next up, Meta allowing people to call Black folks property.

Facebook lifts restrictions on calling women ‘property’ and trans people ‘freaks’

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2/35
‪xX_InVaDr-elliE_Xx‬ ‪@xx-invadr-ellie-xx.bsky.social‬

See I hate how it's angled as he's doing it to "curry favor with Trump" as opposed to the reality which is now that trump is president fukkerberg is relieved to finally be allowed to allow hate speech without consequences like he's always wanted.

3/35
‪Deep Delver 🏳️‍🌈 Rambling Rune Pony‬ ‪@therunepony.bsky.social‬

Then why didn't he do any of this when FB was created back during the Bush years? Why didn't he do this during Trump's first term?

Not excusing him, obviously, but Occam's Razor says this is cozying/self-interest. Why else would he *also* hire random Trump sycophants for show-roles?

4/35
‪ShapeshiftingLizard‬ ‪@ziltoid1991.bsky.social‬

These techbros used to be some flavor of right-libertarian, and didn't really like the social politics of republicans, but democrats were also "too far-left". This slowly started to fade, and the progressive backlash against GenAI was the final nail in the coffin of "techbro wokeness"

5/35
‪John Pontoon, dissident rando‬ ‪@johnpontoon.bsky.social‬

Freedom of being a piece of shyt, now protected by Zuck.

6/35
‪music row in exile‬ ‪@musicrowinexile.bsky.social‬

Deleted

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7/35
‪Grandpop Greggy‬ ‪@grandpopgreggy.bsky.social‬



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8/35
‪tara-lynne.bsky.social‬ ‪@tara-lynne.bsky.social‬

Oh how I wish he were really dead.

9/35
‪thepineinthewoods.bsky.social‬ ‪@thepineinthewoods.bsky.social‬

Oh that's already been done too. They eliminated the section that forbid black folks from being referred to as "farm equipment" and women as "property".

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10/35
‪Kathuryne‬ ‪@kathuryne.bsky.social‬

Black folks and Woman, don't sell the nazi party short. Also remember transgender people are a disease that needs to be eradicated like vermin. They are hitting the nazi trificta.

11/35
‪K. Moore‬ ‪@mynahleague.bsky.social‬

Bezos, Elon, Zuck…following the same playbook.

12/35
‪BeelzeBob Ross‬ ‪@beelzebobross.bsky.social‬

Luigi mangione did nothing wrong, in fact he could've done more.

13/35
‪M Robespierre‬ ‪@mrobespierre.bsky.social‬

I was thinking if he followed that parasite Brian Thompson to the stockholders meeting you could’ve done a lot more good.

14/35
‪socianarcommu.bsky.social‬ ‪@socianarcommu.bsky.social‬

Hey guys, remember when cyberbullying was frowned upon?

15/35
‪Jaina Bledsoe‬ ‪@jainabledsoe.bsky.social‬

Can we in the LGBTQ community crowdsource a cruise missile?

16/35
‪Judau‬ ‪@hydalawn1.bsky.social‬

It would be the most fabulous missile ever and smell of lavender vanilla

17/35
‪meli meli‬ ‪@melimeli.online‬

Alejandra... I don't know if you've used insta or not but uhh... They've allowed that for years... Y'know how many times top comment is just the n word on there?

18/35
‪The Pale Wyrm‬ ‪@thegreatwroggi.bsky.social‬

I think we need to get mean again, like Stonewall but on steroids. We need to be like Rightoids in our protests if we ever want them to take us seriously.

19/35
‪NotQuietMode_M.D.‬ ‪@notquietmodemd.bsky.social‬

It’s clear to me that Trump will will block the forced sale of TikTok ONLY IF they drop content moderation & adopt community notes so that it is unregulated hate speech like X and Meta. Or a MAGA group buys TikTok does same.
I stand with the trans community & others subjected to vile hate speech.

20/35
‪rescuehippie.bsky.social‬ ‪@rescuehippie.bsky.social‬

What the fukk did we do to deserve this timeline?!

21/35
‪BrandxB.bsky.social‬ ‪@brandxb.bsky.social‬

Only 2 years off from Soylent Green’s 2022 setting where women were called furniture. Unbelievable

22/35
‪Mario Augusto Puga Valera‬ ‪@mapugavalera.bsky.social‬

Well, the "anti-Woke" Pop culture "analysts" and "reviewers" on Facebook and YouTube are practically doing that all the time (for example, when they talk about Miles Morales).

23/35
‪a Cherry Ghost‬ ‪@octavius-catto.bsky.social‬

This is what working class voters wanted

24/35
‪caltex‬ ‪@g0blin-king.bsky.social‬

give it a week and people posting the n word with a hard r are algorithmically promoted

25/35
‪G-Money‬ ‪@garrettfesler.bsky.social‬

Democratic leaders must stop bringing pillows to a knife fight. Do not compromise, find common ground, or reach across the aisle. Bipartisanship doesn't work with fascists. Fight them as hard as you can. Sign the petition.
Full statement here:
Sign the Petition

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26/35
‪Twink Tomboy‬ ‪@snowsoracle.bsky.social‬

I am infinitely glad I left. Sad that it took me till 4 months ago

27/35
‪Sierra @ Earth-One‬ ‪@earth-one.bsky.social‬

Techbros sell out, predictable

28/35
‪Brad Presutto‬ ‪@bradpresutto.bsky.social‬

I left as soon as you posted the updates. I warned my folx on meta and asked them to join me here.

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29/35
‪Britt‬ ‪@desqatarian.bsky.social‬

You can make the point without yourself spreading poisonous ideas. Can’t co-sign this one as it came from your own head. Love and respect your views, but not this one.

30/35
‪Pippa‬ ‪@dogsincali.bsky.social‬

Who even wants this 😤
Why?

31/35
‪Ralph Siler‬ ‪@rwsiler1.bsky.social‬

Diaper Don

32/35
‪burgundyems.bsky.social‬ ‪@burgundyems.bsky.social‬

Just like Zuck has always thought they were?

33/35
‪Rafi-Pasque‬ ‪@rafi-pasque.bsky.social‬

I have left instagram and threads. Thank goodness I and others can find a nest here.

34/35
‪feelin' fine‬ ‪@deviouschungus.bsky.social‬

I'm sure you didn't mean to make this mistake, but please use "folx" in the future.

35/35
‪tianamay.bsky.social‬ ‪@tianamay.bsky.social‬

?

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They, FB, restricted me for posting that 'Jew' that vomitted on the black lady head and calling him AshkeNazi


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I agree with Meta. It's not their fault folks don't be double checking sources. Shouldn't be on the platform to spend money and resources trying to fact check every comment made..
 

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Back in the day, the village idiot was largely laughed at and ignored as a harmless moron. Now they meet online, form groups and get taken seriously and attract more dumb dumbs. Just look at the rise of flat earth and anti vaxxers. The internet has collectively lowered our IQ. We need to get back to shaming dumb asses and hurting their feelings. This is a step in the wrong direction.
The internet will never be as good as it was in 2012 ever again. After that point it has been a downhill slide into stupidity and authoritarianism.
 

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Say what you want about the android but Zuckerberg proved he's really a cockroach when it comes to survival. The METAVERSE nearly ruined him and his company. This man lost close to or over ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS. He's back in the top five again, maybe even the top three with a well timed pivot to AI. He's shameless and amoral, but of all the tech oligarchs I find him to be the least irritating. Americans are stupid and deserve to be exploited at this point and we've put in place an Oligarch Technocracy more than willing to do so.
 
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