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Women already feel like they settling so why should I be pressed to pursue? Go head and get what they think they deserve
Precisely if I/you/any man isn't desired off existing (attractiveness) or can't simp and or trick on the highest level, you'll always be second fiddle to those who are/can, through human history women have made that clear they never really DESIRE average.
 
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This where all these men in the middle are for the most part but society (older women, and women approaching the wall) have an issue with dudes not being pressed
The global economy depends of thirsty Men. If the bottom 20% of Men just said fukk it that would throw the economy into a long ass reccession.

Basically that's what Japanese Men did with the grasseater/kikkimori "movement". Japanese nikkas just collectively said fukk it and Japan went from the 2rd largest economy to the 4th. with population declines by a couple percent each year.

Not end of the world shyt but it hurts everyone collectively.
 

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Precisely if I/you/any man isn't desire off existing (attractiveness) or can't simp and or trick on the highest level, you'll always be second fiddle to those who can, through human history women have made that clear they never really DESIRE average.
To keep it a stack the human development depends on this. i.e survival of the fittest. at no time in human history did more than 50% of Men had children, almost all women did. The only problem is male death rates declined dramacticaly.
 

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Precisely if I/you/any man isn't desire off existing (attractiveness) or can't simp and or trick on the highest level, you'll always be second fiddle to those who can, through human history women have made that clear they never really DESIRE average.
Also some woman don’t think they are average in the first place so this issue will always be present
 

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There aren't any women out here trying to make it just like you? That should be common ground amongst upward mobile young people.. I don't understand how its so fcked up out here that men and women can't come together and honestly attempt to make it through this shyt as a unit..


Something is totally wrong with society..

Social media is the game changer bruh...:francis:

There are alot of women who fake the funk and would rather "Appear" like they got it like that..

900 dollar bags but won't even max out an IRA account...:gucci:

You gotta literally rebuild these broads from the ground up while trying to keep yourself steady...

It's essentially less work to fukk them and let them figure it out themselves:yeshrug:

And I'm not advocating it as being right, but that's really where it's at for most men
 

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The bolded is true but I feel that a lot of people are missing the growing amount of men and women not willing to settle for non ideal relationships. Women don't want average guys. And guys don't want to jump through endless hoops to get women or be women's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. choice. Leads to a ton of single people, and I don't see that changing anytime soon


I think some women saw or heard what their grandmothers and mothers went through and are not signing up for it. Most people do not want to commit to mediocrity.
Think about as men we are taught to just provide and to act masculine. But we are not really taught in how to be great partners. Meanwhile, women are expected to cook, clean, birth kids, be a therapist and provide amazing sex.


Social media has given people an incentive to actually be social. And to make things worse, we are going to be a generation of workaholics.
 

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I think some women saw or heard what their grandmothers and mothers went through and are not signing up for it. Most people do not want to commit to mediocrity.
Think about as men we are taught to just provide and to act masculine. But we are not really taught in how to be great partners. Meanwhile, women are expected to cook, clean, birth kids, be a therapist and provide amazing sex.


Social media has given people an incentive to actually be social. And to make things worse, we are going to be a generation of workaholics.

When people say this; what do ya'll mean?

My assumption is you subscribe to the idea "Women don't have to deal with men's abuse, anymore?" Which is bullshyt.

The biggest modern factor on marriage is the economy and what hypergamy has made normal as the job market has moved away from manufacturing.

But, women never changed wanting to have the man make more money.

All of this can be supported with data. While this "women saw or heard what their grandmothers and mothers went through" is Color Purple/Waiting To Exhale/Tyler Perry fantasy.
 

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When people say this; what do ya'll mean?

My assumption is you subscribe to the idea "Women don't have to deal with men's abuse, anymore?" Which is bullshyt.

The biggest modern factor on marriage is the economy and what hypergamy has made normal as the job market has moved away from manufacturing.

But, women never changed wanting to have the man make more money.

All of this can be supported with data. While this "women saw or heard what their grandmothers and mothers went through" is Color Purple/Waiting To Exhale/Tyler Perry fantasy.

I have explained in a simple sentence. Millennial women are embracing celibacy and are not rushing to get married and to have kids. It was men that created patriarchy. But the truth is that men are threatened by the idea that women as a collective are no longer putting up with the bullshyt.
 

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I think some women saw or heard what their grandmothers and mothers went through and are not signing up for it. Most people do not want to commit to mediocrity.
Think about as men we are taught to just provide and to act masculine. But we are not really taught in how to be great partners. Meanwhile, women are expected to cook, clean, birth kids, be a therapist and provide amazing sex.


Social media has given people an incentive to actually be social. And to make things worse, we are going to be a generation of workaholics.

I can't as a logical pragmatist get past the bolded because most people are average/mediocre. The entitlement is so ironic. That's basic statistics, moreover I disagree on the expectations of women but I won't debate them here. Regardless that's fine if people won't settle but they need to STFU about loneliness and unhappiness seeking partners, just kill yourself already or keep looking in slience.

One of my favorite Mac Miller lines "I be I be I be I be over shyt, the world don't give a fukk about your loneliness"

 

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To keep it a stack the human development depends on this. i.e survival of the fittest. at no time in human history did more than 50% of Men had children, almost all women did. The only problem is male death rates declined dramacticaly.
Yes, but they went to family units to have more societal stability and sustained growth as opposed to constant hoards of idle unhappy men waging war ever so often, but people have more less rejected imposed family units. As those dissipate so will stability
 

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The global economy depends of thirsty Men. If the bottom 20% of Men just said fukk it that would throw the economy into a long ass reccession.

Basically that's what Japanese Men did with the grasseater/kikkimori "movement". Japanese nikkas just collectively said fukk it and Japan went from the 2rd largest economy to the 4th. with population declines by a couple percent each year.

Not end of the world shyt but it hurts everyone collectively.

I know, but the constant catering to and absolution of responsibility/accountability of women will make a lot men stop playing the game of life the way the higher ups would prefer, and we will follow in Japan's footsteps. When hypergamy is present so is instability
 

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I have explained in a simple sentence. Millennial women are embracing celibacy and are not rushing to get married and to have kids. It was men that created patriarchy. But the truth is that men are threatened by the idea that women as a collective are no longer putting up with the bullshyt.

Okay, thank you for letting me know not to take anything you say about this subject seriously.
 

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I have explained in a simple sentence. Millennial women are embracing celibacy and are not rushing to get married and to have kids. It was men that created patriarchy. But the truth is that men are threatened by the idea that women as a collective are no longer putting up with the bullshyt.
This is completely false. My god…
 

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I think some women saw or heard what their grandmothers and mothers went through and are not signing up for it. Most people do not want to commit to mediocrity.
Think about as men we are taught to just provide and to act masculine. But we are not really taught in how to be great partners. Meanwhile, women are expected to cook, clean, birth kids, be a therapist and provide amazing sex.


Social media has given people an incentive to actually be social. And to make things worse, we are going to be a generation of workaholics.

They'll go through it as long as they find the man sexually attractive.
 
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