Meek Mill Feat. Quentin Miller - Wanna Know (Drake Diss) (Prod. By Jahlil Beats & Swizz Beatz)

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What does any of that have to do with Meek droppin a weak ass response :dead:

Because in comparison Drake's weren't really any better, and definitely not to the extent that people are acting like it is. Back to Back might be a better sounding song than Meek's, but not enough that people should be completely overlooking what Meek has proven and exposed about Drake in the last week.
 

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he had some good shots, the references and the beat but but his verses were as soft as Drake's...

he got the audio of Flex from last night?
 

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They were judged by the same audience that's judging this one. You thought people were diving deep into those disses and beefs to determine a winner but they weren't. Most people were judging them by the same criteria I listed.

No I don't think people were diving deep into those disses, again, that's part of the problem, but at least that audience was a real authentic hip-hop audience, now you got politicians, hipsters, yuppy white chicks, and corporations swaying the outcome in favor of a dude who 10-15 years wouldn't even have a place in the culture.
 

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& people wonder why there is never any rap beef anymore, it's no longer about rap, it's about whose media presence will overwhelm the other. I'm watching my TL like literally ALL of you have the exact same opinion on this? :francis: We couldn't even unanimously agree that iggy was trash when she first came out lol

Social media made it the 'in' thing to bash meek & his track because drake is the bigger, more popular artist. And there's nikkas that are literally saying, 'I haven't heard the track but my whole TL says it's trash and Drake won so it must be true.' Then they retweet a whole bunch of meek memes and corporate diss tweets.

:francis:

True but Meek could have still made a better diss track
 

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You really think it's just females and old white people clowning Meek?

Do you have social media? :russ: Black Twitter in general has been clowning Meek for days.

No, that's why I said "swaying public opinion", because that's who people are using to validate the opinion that Drake's killing Meek, when really Drake's credibility has been completely destroyed in the past week to a true hip-hop audience, but no one wants to be the odd man out. I don't care what a bunch of old washed up rappers say either, most of them just don't want to seem like the bitter old dude going against the grain. Meek can't win this, the odds are too stacked against him.
 

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No, that's why I said "swaying public opinion", because that's who people are using to validate the opinion that Drake's killing Meek, when really Drake's credibility has been completely destroyed in the past week to a true hip-hop audience, but no one wants to be the odd man out. I don't care what a bunch of old washed up rappers say either, most of them just don't want to seem like the bitter old dude going against the grain. Meek can't win this, the odds are too stacked against him.
What is a "true hip hop audience" that isn't a monolithic unit that subscribes to some laws of rap

You're not making any sense
 

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Because in comparison Drake's weren't really any better, and definitely not to the extent that people are acting like it is. Back to Back might be a better sounding song than Meek's, but not enough that people should be completely overlooking what Meek has proven and exposed about Drake in the last week.

Bro, Back 2 back was waaaaay better than the trash meek put out. Meek is the "real emcee" here so he should have bodied Drake with bars. He should have put the same energy and ferocity as he did on the "Intro" off dreams n nightmares.

Meek exposing Drake using QM is more fuel for for meek to use in a song. But he didn't. Meek had a lot of talkin, bullshyt skits and he was mumbling.


Meek can only blame himself :manny:
 

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Meek won :wow:

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Imagine if Drake got Paul Heyman to cut a promo and talk shyt on his response track :wow::dead:

nikkas bookin' rap beefs now...Kayfabe Commentaries Guest Booker: The East Coast/West Coast fued...

shyt, Paul Heyman can spit...

This is some Jay-Z, "D.O.A." shyt...

"Get a beat, put the 'Taker gongs on it//
Let Paul E. talk, let 'em know what he did wrong on it//
Get Thuganomics Cena, go no vaseline, Monday Night RAW on it//
Find that classic Vince McMahon commentary, 'HA-HA-HA' on it//"

#Bars



Would be pretty ironic given Heyman's history in Philly

Swanson & Ritner are so disappointed in Meek...
 

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True but Meek could have still made a better diss track



Nikkas dont get it, meek could have murdered drake with some of the stuff he had but his diss came out flat. I mean cmon that piss shyt could have destroyed drake, and the end of the day back to back has 3-4 quotable s and is gona get fukking radio play :snoop:


meek blew it.
 

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Bro, Back 2 back was waaaaay better than the trash meek put out. Meek is the "real emcee" here so he should have bodied Drake with bars. He should have put the same energy and ferocity as he did on the "Intro" off dreams n nightmares.

Meek exposing Drake using QM is more fuel for for meek to use in a song. But he didn't. Meek had a lot of talkin, bullshyt skits and he was mumbling.


Meek can only blame himself :manny:
yup
 

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What is a "true hip hop audience" that isn't a monolithic unit that subscribes to some laws of rap

You're not making any sense

People that come from a struggle, and relate to it and recognize it in another person. Meek's got a chip on his shoulder and is cocky as hell, and sometimes is real hard to like, but at least it's authentic. If he wasn't where he's at now he'd probably be dead or in jail. Hip-hop/rap, it's culture, and the business of it was built by people like that, and then bought out by corporate America, who made sure that someone like Drake became the poster boy for it.
 

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Drake pointed out that Meek is opening for his girl--thats $50k+ a night, and every current rapper in the world, minus Drake, Cole, & Kendrick would be opening for Nicki, Drake makes more but let's not act like this is a real life loss for Meek. It might fukk with him slightly that his girl is a bigger star, but that's a rich person problem, and one that we'd all kill to have.

Drake points out that Meek tweets a lot and calls him a snitch, which is him admitting that he has ghostwriters, and lets be clear, this isn't even close to the same thing as snitching, though I don't like the idea of putting another person's livelihood in jeopardy even if it's someone like Drake who is already filthy rich. 4 tracks have leaked since then showing Quentin Miller has written substantial amounts of music for Drake, anyone denying that doesn't understand hip-hop, songwriting, etc.

Meek questions Drake's credibility in the streets, which is pretty interchangeable with his credibility in hip-hop. We all know Drake has never had any credibility here, people were willing to overlook this because Drake makes some really good music, but now we find out that he may not have written a great deal of that.

Meek calls Drake out on Puffy smacking him and TI's boy pissing on him. Real life shyt here that hurts a man's pride and self-esteem. Retaliation against Puff could've possibly led to blackballing, and who knows what TI's boy is capable of, so I can understand why Drake didn't respond, with that said these are both inescapable losses, no way to spin this into any kind of W, these are both take ur L and keep moving situations if you're not about that life. We all know Drake is not.

But Drake is winning this hands down? Makes sense in 2015

Anyone who knows me can tell you that I prefer Drake's music to Meek's, and I'm from Philly, but being as objective as I can be, the charges Meek's levied against Drake SHOULD be far more damaging than what Drake's thrown at Meek. Sad state of affairs for hip-hop/rap.

In no lifetime are you supposed to get pissed on and keep it moving. Especially if you rap about "catching bodies". Fear shouldn't be an option. Hands should have been thrown. Even if Drake risked losing the fist fight. But he has enough money, security, and goons (so he claims) to not worry about 'retaliation'.

And for the Diddy thing, Drake is big enough that he doesn't have to worry about being blackballed for a fight with Diddy. I'm not saying he had to retaliate after the fact. But if Diddy threw a punch and Drake didn't throw one back at that very moment for fear of being blackballed or whatever, then that's true sucker shyt.

And I'm not even trying to sound tough or hard. I have no problem with avoiding fights that aren't worth it, especially someone of Drake's stature. But nah if someone swings at me first or pees on me, at that point, I HAVE to retaliate then and there. That's ultimate disrespect and all bets are off after that. Plus in Drake's case, ain't nobody in Diddy camp or TI camp literally dumb enough to shoot him up then and there on the spot.
 
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