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[Robbie3000]

Protecting the unalienable rights of the individual is a state function libertarians support. Are you asking whether or not blacks would be property or not? cause thats a whole different issue...

Well prominent libertarians like Rand and Ron Paul are opposed to using state power to stop the violation of those rights.

They would rather leave it to the free market. A free market that perpetuated the existence of that very institution. Surely you see the hypocrisy in such a position.

 

[Richard Wright]

Atlas Shrugged was enough for me... . Ayn rand was a disgusting anti-human piece of filth.

Not a racist, you say?

I ignore everything she said post 1960s. The virtue of selfishness and atlas shrugged are timeless though.

And Dostoyevsky wrote TBK. He is 22342942x times the writer and thinker rand ever was.

 

[Robbie3000]

@Eric Blair, @DEAD7

How would you have handled the slavery and segregation question?

Do you think the government was justified in the emancipation slavery and ending segregation in private businesses?

 

[The Real]

Protecting the unalienable rights of the individual is a state function libertarians support. Are you asking whether or not blacks would be property or not? cause thats a whole different issue...

Yeah, but some modern libertarians count Black people as individuals while also presenting themselves as strict constitutionalists when it comes to government reach, whereas the framers of that very same constitution obviously did not consider Black people such. If libertarians were around during slavery, they wouldn't necessarily have legally opposed it, assuming their views on government were the same as they are now, for the simple fact that it would constitute drastic and serious government intervention into the status quo. Also factor in that slavery was contentious from the very beginning of the constitution's emergence- on those issues, traditionally, libertarians have opposed using the government to silence a close minority or majority on civil rights issues or on things like gay rights (not just marriage, but basic privileges of civil unions, for example,) so we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have done the same with regard to slavery, adopting either a states rights stance, saying that it would take care of itself through the market and without legislation, or even saying that it didn't need any regulation or change at all.

You yourself might not hold that position, but there is a strong tension in libertarian philosophy that makes it a coherent position to hold, and is why many people continue to hold similar positions (for another example, the position that no public anti-discrimination laws are necessary, allowing the majority to have de facto power over minorities, while simultaneously decrying democracy itself as majoritarian evil.)

 

[Richard Wright]

@Eric Blair, @DEAD7

How would you have handled the slavery and segregation question?

Do you think the government was justified in the emancipation slavery and ending segregation in private businesses?

There is no such thing as a state's right for men to vote to take away the rights of other men.

They federal government was wrong, but the southern states were more wrong - on slavery

On segregation, If I was a black man in the 1960w I would have been a segregationist like Malcolm x was. Integration was the worst thing to happen to black people. Why would I want to intermingle with my enemy?

The new tea party libertarians and these democrats were the enemy then and they are still my enemy now.

Libertarians and Democrats

 

[Robbie3000]

There is no such thing as a state's right for men to vote to take away the rights of other men.

They federal government was wrong, but the southern states were more wrong - on slavery

On segregation, If I was a black man in the 1960w I would have been a segregationist like Malcolm x was. Integration was the worst thing to happen to black people. Why would I want to intermingle with my enemy?

The new tea party libertarians and these democrats were the enemy then and they are still my enemy now.

Libertarians and Democrats

So it seems you are fine with Jim Crow laws. Fair enough. How would you have handled slavery?

I'm just trying to ascertain the method you would recommend to end a practice that considered slavery legal and regarded slaves as private property.

 

[DEAD7]

There is no such thing as a state's right for men to vote to take away the rights of other men.

They federal government was wrong, but the southern states were more wrong - on slavery

On segregation, If I was a black man in the 1960w I would have been a segregationist like Malcolm x was. Integration was the worst thing to happen to black people. Why would I want to intermingle with my enemy?

The new tea party libertarians and these democrats were the enemy then and they are still my enemy now.

Libertarians and Democrats

I can respect that.

 

[Richard Wright]

So it seems you are fine with Jim Crow laws. Fair enough. How would you have handled slavery?

I'm just trying to ascertain the method you would recommend to end a practice that considered slavery legal and regarded slaves as private property.

WTF when did I say that? Stop putting words in my mouth dude. I dont have a political opinion on either topic aside from if I was alive I would have been a nat turner or malcolm x type. And people can not morally be property bro. Slavery only happened because of government tyranny and the stupid white middle/lower class falling for propaganda. The same class of people that have sent the country to shyt.

I am absolutely and unequivocally opposed to all political and scientific acknowledgement of race. However, idiots have allowed race to control them in this country and racism is our single largest social issue. Look up double consciousness , DEB DuBois. That explains how I feel about race.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

If it was free it would...

Bruh do you ever feel pathetic about the fact that the Mises Institute or the Cato Institute or whoever your handlers are dispatched you to this popular hip-hop message board as their token black guy?

 

[Robbie3000]

WTF when did I say that? Stop putting words in my mouth dude. I dont have a political opinion on either topic aside from if I was alive I would have been a nat turner or malcolm x type. And people can not morally be property bro. Slavery only happened because of government tyranny and the stupid white middle/lower class falling for propaganda. The same class of people that have sent the country to shyt.

I am absolutely and unequivocally opposed to all political and scientific acknowledgement of race. However, idiots have allowed race to control them in this country and racism is our single largest social issue. Look up double consciousness , DEB DuBois. That explains how I feel about race.

How you personally feel is irrelevant. what is relevant is the method you use to end certain practices.

It was morally right to own people as property at one time. It took people using the power of the government to end such practices. That is my main beef with Libertarian's dogmatic beliefs in the power of the free market to correct immoral practices. Sometimes it takes the power of the state to end or regulate practices that are harmful to society as a whole and I extend that to the environment, discrimination, safety etc.

 

[DEAD7]

Yeah, but some modern libertarians count Black people as individuals while also presenting themselves as strict constitutionalists when it comes to government reach, whereas the framers of that very same constitution obviously did not consider Black people such. If libertarians were around during slavery, they wouldn't necessarily have legally opposed it, assuming their views on government were the same as they are now, for the simple fact that it would constitute drastic and serious government intervention into the status quo. Also factor in that slavery was contentious from the very beginning of the constitution's emergence- on those issues, traditionally, libertarians have opposed using the government to silence a close minority or majority on civil rights issues or on things like gay rights (not just marriage, but basic privileges of civil unions, for example,) so we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have done the same with regard to slavery, adopting either a states rights stance, saying that it would take care of itself through the market and without legislation, or even saying that it didn't need any regulation or change at all.

You yourself might not hold that position, but there is a strong tension in libertarian philosophy that makes it a coherent position to hold, and is why many people continue to hold similar positions (for another example, the position that no public anti-discrimination laws are necessary, allowing the majority to have de facto power over minorities, while simultaneously decrying democracy itself as majoritarian evil.)

You're right, under the belief that blacks are not human beings(equal ones at least). It would be no different then how we look at dogs today... actually take that back, some dogs have it better than slaves did. But you get the point. Once that key perception changed, everything changed.





oh and greed is all the anti-discrimination you need.

 

[Robbie3000]

You're right, under the belief that blacks are not human beings(equal ones at least). It would be no different then how we look at dogs today... actually take that back, some dogs have it better than slaves did. But you get the point. Once that key perception changed, everything changed.



oh and greed is all the anti-discrimination you need.

Bruh, it took America another 100+ years just to end defacto segregation and protect black people's voting rights.

Where was the free market during this time? And if the govt did not intervene how long should black people have waited for the free market to take care of things? I hate to belabor this slavery point, but I strongly believe all the other protections that we have....whether it be environmental laws, labor laws, food and drug safety laws would not happen without legislation and regulations.

Libertarians give humans too much moral credit, while dangerously ignoring our history of how we treat each other.

 

[DEAD7]

Bruh do you ever feel pathetic about the fact that the Mises Institute or the Cato Institute or whoever your handlers are dispatched you to this popular hip-hop message board as their token black guy?

Yes, cause blacks have made such enormous strides under progressive policies . The African American communities best chance to obtain property and real wealth is in a free market, but your democac masters have twisted the reality of what a free market is. Like literally every account or assessment of the free market made by a liberal negro is not just ridiculous, but the very thing the free market fends off.

If their goal was to control you, not only have they succeeded, but they have gotten you to cheer-lead and campaign for increases in their power all for a bite to eat.
Govt. is as big as its ever been, the rich are richer than they have ever been, there are more regulation then ever before, and niqqas are still scraping around the bottom of the barrel.
and what comes out of you niqqas mouths? More govt.! More power for cacs! It'll work this time! This reform is the one!

I libertarian comes along, and suggest maybe we should roll back govt. and fend for ourselves since we actually have our own best interest at heart and you call him a cac plant

Slaves that dont know they are slaves

 

[DEAD7]

Bruh, it took America another 100+ years just to end defacto segregation and protect black people's voting rights.

Where was the free market during this time? And if the govt did not intervene how long should black people have waited for the free market to take care of things? I hate to belabor this slavery point, but I strongly believe all the other protections that we have....whether it be environmental laws, labor laws, food and drug safety laws would not happen without legislation and regulations.

Libertarians give humans too much moral credit, while dangerously ignoring our history of how we treat each other.

The free market moves slower than govt. force. This is true. Not gonna argue that ...

 

[Robbie3000]

The free market moves slower than govt. force. This is true. Not gonna argue that ...

My only beef is Libertarians dogmatic belief in the power of the free market. It's the best system we have now, but it is by no means infallible. I would rather we look for pragmatic solutions free of dogma.