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True.

But they both went up 5 divisions in the end. 130 to 154 for PBF. and MW to Heavyweight for L.O

So, there's that. Floyds a little dude. I think he's maxed out at 147, but can box at 154 on skill. Maybe 160, and that's maybe.

Welter is SRL first division and Floyds fourth.

No doubt but you don't see any of the above mentioned except for one refer to himself as tbe :cmsas1: and this was off a three year lay off :999: nikkas were going loco for beating up a small Marquez after one year lay off :cmsas2:
 

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Clinching is not boxing. Thats all I said.

Its a part of boxing and its up to the ref to determine how much. if you can clinch to negate offense and the ref allow its all good. If you can clinch an hit nikkas in the other side low where the ref can't see its a part of the game. They fighting not figure skating.
 

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No doubt but you don't see any of the above mentioned except for one refer to himself as tbe :cmsas1: and this was off a three year lay off :999: nikkas were going loco for beating up a small Marquez after one year lay off :cmsas2:
I'm starting to believe him about him being calculated. I doubt he really thinks he's the best, I think he knows how to sell himself. Even in an interview before the fight. He said he wanted to go down as "one of the best" I think all that TBE shyt is just for marketing purposes.

Top 10 ATG though. Just not the greatest.
 

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I wouldn't necessarily call clinching apart of defense. However, it's apart of Floyd's savvy.

Mayweather's defense and generalship are two aspect that makes him a great fighter.

I could do without clinching though. Hate it in boxing, hate it in mma. Understand it happens, but don't like to see it initiated.
 

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Its a part of boxing and its up to the ref to determine how much. if you can clinch to negate offense and the ref allow its all good. If you can clinch an hit nikkas in the other side low where the ref can't see its a part of the game. They fighting not figure skating.
Its only a part because for some reason, refs allow it. But it has no value as a tactic. Its a demeaning part of the sport just like low blows and head butts, the difference being, it doesn't cause physical damage. But in no way can it be called a skill or attribute.
 

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Its only a part because for some reason, refs allow it. But it has no value as a tactic. Its a demeaning part of the sport just like low blows and head butts, the difference being, it doesn't cause physical damage. But in no way can it be called a skill or attribute.

It has no value as a tactic? :heh:

You okay breh?
 

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This fight wouldn't even qualify as one of Floyd's top 10 best defensive nights. He beat Pac on novice level abilities. He escaped to his left at comical rates. Pac couldn't even figure out how to close the door. After giving 7x Trainer of the Year five years to gameplan, he beat the "Fighter of the Decade" simply with a jab and circling to his left. Both Frederick and Emmanuel should be ashamed of themselves. Also, it's time to give Floyd's offense some props. He is a complete fighter. His offense, or the mere thought of his offense, aides his defense in so many ways. Dude is like a snake charmer. He have these world class fighters stuck in mud within 2-3 rounds almost every fight. So when we start parsing words and say "greatest defensive fighter of all time" we're being disengenuous.....he might possibly be the most complete fighter of all time, since saying the "greatest" or "the best" seem to get people's panties in a bunch.
 

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This fight wouldn't even qualify as one of Floyd's top 10 best defensive nights. He beat Pac on novice level abilities. He escaped to his left at comical rates. Pac couldn't even figure out how to close the door. After giving 7x Trainer of the Year five years to gameplan, he beat the "Fighter of the Decade" simply with a jab and circling to his left. Both Frederick and Emmanuel should be ashamed of themselves. Also, it's time to give Floyd's offense some props. He is a complete fighter. His offense, or the mere thought of his offense, aides his defense in so many ways. Dude is like a snake charmer. He have these world class fighters stuck in mud within 2-3 rounds almost every fight. So when we start parsing words and say "greatest defensive fighter of all time" we're being disengenuous.....he might possibly be the most complete fighter of all time, since saying the "greatest" or "the best" seem to get people's panties in a bunch.


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you can say but there are many who still believe sweet pea was the goat defensive fighter ever :manny: both fighters have some similarities but pea used alot of upper body movment (which is lost in todays boxing) and would get in these low stances and still couldn't be hit while standing in front of you. i find his defensive performance against de la hoya incredible considering he just came out of rehab. toss up imo, depends on what you like both were effective were there defensive style
 

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People tried to clinch Tyson and got knocked the fukk out after the let the clinch go (or their ear went missing).
It's not some type of dominant strategy, if it was more people would do it a lot more. Floyd has developed the dynamics of his repertoire of defensive strategies over the years, the only thing that keeps on getting better per fight. He has a new successful style for every fight, which is what makes him different from other boxers I've seen.
 

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you can say but there are many who still believe sweet pea was the goat defensive fighter ever :manny: both fighters have some similarities but pea used alot of upper body movment (which is lost in todays boxing) and would get in these low stances and still couldn't be hit while standing in front of you. i find his defensive performance against de la hoya incredible considering he just came out of rehab. toss up imo, depends on what you like both were effective were there defensive style

Yeah that's why I originally said it's between Sweet Pea and Floyd.


This nikka Sweet Pea was out here doing upper body defensive maneuvers while crouched down with his ass like an inch off the ground. shyt boggled my mind as a kid I'd be like "Is this nikka from the future :dwillhuh: "
 
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