Mayor Eric Adams: King of NY Official Thread

[88m3]

Is the argument that vaccines aren’t effective against Omicron now?

I understand it’s far more transmissible and may lead to short term absences, but vast majority of evidence shows that protection against severe outcomes remains.

If you agree with vaccine protection, why frame it as a life or death decision in January 2022?

Schools are open in all of Scandinavia (including in Denmark with huge Omicron wave), France, UK, Switzerland, Germany, Austria etc

These are countries with vastly different relationships to their social welfare systems and to teachers more specifically, yet they all decided it’s not a fatal proposition to reopen schools given vaccine protection and low risk to kids. It’s only in North America where it’s been framed differently and it won’t age well for liberals and progressives.

lolwut?

Omicron isn't the only variant going around in case you didn't know. If it the vaccine was mandatory for children I would be a little less concerned but that isn't the case. A lot of parents aren't getting their children vaccinated and they're in schools getting infected and spreading it other children, teachers, support staff, caregivers and the list goes on.

Europe has done a pretty piss poor job with the Covid so I don't know why you're holding them up as some shining example.

It's a political and economic decision and not a public health decision from where I'm sitting.

 

[thatrapsfan]

lolwut?

Omicron isn't the only variant going around in case you didn't know. If it the vaccine was mandatory for children I would be a little less concerned but that isn't the case. A lot of parents aren't getting their children vaccinated and they're in schools getting infected and spreading it other children, teachers, support staff, caregivers and the list goes on.

Europe has done a pretty piss poor job with the Covid so I don't know why you're holding them up as some shining example.

It's a political and economic decision and not a public health decision from where I'm sitting.

Omicron is the variant that’s most likely to escape vaccine protection and lead to infection but thankfully, appears protection against severe outcomes has remained robust.

The vaccines are even more effective against the other variants to date (including Delta) both in terms of transmission and severe outcomes.

I brought up Europe because they’re comparable to US in terms of being open, democratic societies that are well connected to global economy. You can find many examples within Europe itself that hold well globally in terms of overall COVID outcomes. Denmark and Norway, for example, have very good outcomes by any measure ( deaths etc) and still have taken a similar approach on schools.

Besides kids (and teachers) don’t exist in a vacuum. They will still be exposed to COVID while schools are closed whether from other caregivers, other kids, or during day to day tasks. It’s a certainty that everyone will get exposed now, it’s only a matter of time. The saving grace is that adults can be protected from bad outcomes from vaccines and the risk ratio is far lower for kids.

 

[88m3]

Omicron is the variant that’s most likely to escape vaccine protection and lead to infection but thankfully, appears protection against severe outcomes has remained robust.

The vaccines are even more effective against the other variants to date (including Delta) both in terms of transmission and severe outcomes.

I brought up Europe because they’re comparable to US in terms of being open, democratic societies that are well connected to global economy. You can find many examples within Europe itself that hold well globally in terms of overall COVID outcomes. Denmark and Norway, for example, have very good outcomes by any measure ( deaths etc) and still have taken a similar approach on schools.

Besides kids (and teachers) don’t exist in a vacuum. They will still be exposed to COVID while schools are closed whether from other caregivers, other kids, or during day to day tasks. It’s a certainty that everyone will get exposed now, it’s only a matter of time. The saving grace is that adults can be protected from bad outcomes from vaccines and the risk ratio is far lower for kids.

I don't see a solution here and you're still ignoring the elephant in the room that kids aren't getting vaccinated.

I guess you see these people as expendable. That's a very entitled position to take.

 

[thatrapsfan]

I don't see a solution here and you're still ignoring the elephant in the room that kids aren't getting vaccinated.

I guess you see these people as expendable. That's a very entitled position to take.

Not what I said at all, but you know that

I don’t think open schools are a deadly proposition in context of mass vaccination.

You may disagree and I’d welcome any evidence that shows otherwise.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I’m pretty sure makes mandatory in European schools so unless that happens in the US it’s a dumb comparison

 

[88m3]

Not what I said at all, but you know that

I don’t think open schools are a deadly proposition in context of mass vaccination.

You may disagree and I’d welcome any evidence that shows otherwise.

a lot of children aren't vaccinated because of their parents even here in NY and it goes across racial lines

according to google 62% are fully vaccinated in the US and 21% have received the booster


there are alternatives that mitigate risk and they're not being used

 

[GunRanger]

So Eric Adams is another Rahm Emanuel?

Hes a cop and former republican. Wasnt hard to see

 

[Miles Davis]

I’m pretty sure makes mandatory in European schools so unless that happens in the US it’s a dumb comparison

Hold up, masks ain't mandatory in NYC schools?!

 

[Wargames]

 

[88m3]

Surprised he didn't call them disposable

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Hold up, masks ain't mandatory in NYC schools?!

have no idea I know they aren’t mandatory in most places in the country

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Hold up, masks ain't mandatory in NYC schools?!

Of course they are mandatory

But you got some knucklehead faculty members who don’t always wear them. I have many friends that are teachers

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I’m already sick and tired of Adams and he’s been in office for a week

 

[ogc163]

I expect this place to be a shyt show by the 19th. That's my benchmark.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I expect this place to be a shyt show by the 19th. That's my benchmark.

Why the 19th