Mayor Eric Adams: King of NY Official Thread

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Also @Outlaw if you think you can't be a fascist country if you have free and fair elections take a hard fukking look at Isreal when you get a chance. They kind sorta fit the bill
 

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I know a teacher who got Covid. He might of got it over the holidays but the fact remains he is out sick suffering.

dudes want to stick it to the libs and think teachers and their families are expendable for one reason or another. gen x and y are just as bad as boomers they deride


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dudes want to stick it to the libs and think teachers and their families are expendable for one reason or another. gen x and y are just as bad as boomers they deride


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Is the argument that vaccines aren’t effective against Omicron now?

I understand it’s far more transmissible and may lead to short term absences, but vast majority of evidence shows that protection against severe outcomes remains.

If you agree with vaccine protection, why frame it as a life or death decision in January 2022?

Schools are open in all of Scandinavia (including in Denmark with huge Omicron wave), France, UK, Switzerland, Germany, Austria etc

These are countries with vastly different relationships to their social welfare systems and to teachers more specifically, yet they all decided it’s not a fatal proposition to reopen schools given vaccine protection and low risk to kids. It’s only in North America where it’s been framed differently and it won’t age well for liberals and progressives.
 

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Is the argument that vaccines aren’t effective against Omicron now?

I understand it’s far more transmissible and may lead to short term absences, but vast majority of evidence shows that protection against severe outcomes remains.

If you agree with vaccine protection, why frame it as a life or death decision in January 2022?

Schools are open in all of Scandinavia (including in Denmark with huge Omicron wave), France, UK, Switzerland, Germany, Austria etc

These are countries with vastly different relationships to their social welfare systems and to teachers more specifically, yet they all decided it’s not a fatal proposition to reopen schools given vaccine protection and low risk to kids. It’s only in North America where it’s been framed differently and it won’t age well for liberals and progressives.
What exactly do you believe liberals and progressives are calling for?
 

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What exactly do you believe liberals and progressives are calling for?

To be sure not all liberals and progressives agree on this issue. But many in North America are of the view that sending teachers to school in-person in this wave is akin to sending them to the slaughterhouse.

I think it’s defensible to insist on in-person schooling during this wave given vaccine coverage among adults and proof that infections among vaccinated are relatively mild for most part.

Also think it isn’t necessarily a conservative position, even though it’s associated with the right in North America. Denmark, Norway, Germany, Spain, Portugal ( off top of my head) all have left leaning governments at the moment and schools are open. For most part, they havent done anything necessarily exceptional to keep them open aside from testing.
 
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To be sure not all liberals and progressives agree on this issue. But many in North America are of the view that sending teachers to school in-person in this wave is akin to sending them to the slaughterhouse.

I think it’s defensible to insist on in-person schooling during this wave given vaccine coverage among adults and proof that infections among vaccinated are relatively mild for most part.

Also think it isn’t necessarily a conservative position, even though it’s associated with the right in North America. Denmark, Norway, Germany, Spain, Portugal ( off top of my head) all have left leaning governments at the moment and schools are open. For most part, they havent done anything necessarily exceptional to keep them open aside from testing.

It's weird how the framing of all these arguments seems to result in liberals being at fault for many of these issues when if we had listened to liberals and progressives from the beginning we wouldn't be facing a lot of these problems now.....

I wonder why that is :jbhmm:

The big tell where the right wing is never the bad guy in these arguments is the media framing everything in right wing messaging and people eating that garbage as if it's gospel. Hilariously this poster is blaming liberals in a thread where the democratic mayor of new york is calling for a full return of all students.... I'm so confused how people come to any of these conclusions. Most of it lacks logic and just comes from doing the laziest thing possible because republicans going back to Reagan have convinced everyone the government isn't capable of improving your lives (because they made it that way and want people to suffer. The cruelty is the point)

When it comes down to it students and their parents should be allowed to choose between online and in person learning. Public schools aren't being given that option yet private schools are. It almost seems like the citizenship and their kids and being told you have to be sacrificed for the economy unless of course, you have money.
 
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