Matthew 28:3..."And his clothes were white as ICE!" The Official 2017 Atlanta Falcons Season Thread

How do the 2017 Atlanta Falcons finish the season?

  • Wild Card

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • Division Winner

    Votes: 10 14.3%
  • NFC Champion

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Super Bowl Champion

    Votes: 25 35.7%
  • *Insert cornball 28-3 joke from a fan of a team that hasn't made the playoffs in years* :beli:

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No playoffs

    Votes: 19 27.1%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

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If some of you are true Falcons fans yall should be happy Gregg Knapp is back
being the fact Knapp worked with Vick during his tenured.

Knapp knows and understands the concept of a west coast offense
it shouldn't be a bad move.

And far as Sark goes, Falcons gotta stick with him (Atleast for one more season)
can't make progress if your constantly pulling up roots.

Sidenote: Why isn't there any buzzing going around for Raheem Morris?

Knapp is a solid move to work with Matt as QB coach and really to coach Sark on the finer points of this offense. I disagree with the idea that Sark can't improve. The main issue was red zone...we were a top 10 red zone scoring team last yr, this yr we slid into the mid 20s. If you look at the team's metrics on offense they're actually pretty good, but again situationally (red zone) we weren't good. Y'all gotta allow people to figure out the job, firing Sark (which isn't gonna happen, he's confirmed to return) wouldn't have made the offense better. We have to execute better and need guys to practice (i.e. Julio) during the wk. We need the OL to block better up front (both guard spots need to be upgraded). I need the WRs not to lead the league in drops (which resulted in 8 Matt Ryan INTs). I get the frustration with Sark but there were a lot of miscues and errors with this team as a whole that resulted in the offense not performing well
 

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We have a staff of at minimum 3 that are making a half a million dollars that chose that play.

Any Everyone even my simpleton Coli writing, 92.9 callin ass knew what that play call was.:mjcry:


He's gotta go. Stark ain't the answer.

Atleast Shanahan had some reasoning for his insanity.

Starks a p*ssy play caller held back by a purebred defensive coach. We can't win with him.

Quinn is settin up the d, and I believe in that.

we need a non conservative innovative oc down here

I saw a great comment on the falcons reddit or somewhere talking about why Sark's such a bad coach. It's because he hasn't 100% realized he's playcalling for the NFL, not CFB.

EDIT: Here it is.

I've been thinking about this for a while, and the video explains it perfectly. Sark doesn't gameplan because he doesn't think he has to. That's a lesson he learned from college football, and it's a big reason why I think a lot of college coaches fail in the NFL.

The reason: they simply cannot comprehend the talent parity in the NFL.

College football is so uneven in terms of talent because of a few reasons. First, players are recruited and ultimately get to choose where they play. This means teams like Alabama and Clemson have five-star recruits two deep at every position. Second, the best players usually leave every three years, so even if a star emerges at a lesser school, you'll still need recruits to replace him. Revert to Step 1, and the cycle continues. Third, the talent pool is just too diluted. There are 130 D-I programs, each with 70+ players. That's over 9,100 players, whereas the NFL has only 1,696 (32 teams with 53-man active rosters). And the NFL players play as long as they want/can.

So coaches at top-tier college programs simply gameplan as they please. They know they have more talent, and talent normally wins. These guys are so used to being able to inflict their will on the game that they don't even consider what the opponents might try. They run the same plays over and over because they know the opponents can't stop them (a trademark Sark move). They don't get how this doesn't work in the NFL.

Where do we see this with Sark?

He abuses the Hooper motion on so many plays. Usually, as the video says, he uses motion to diagnose the coverage, and normally, he motions Hooper in. I'm sure college coaches don't trust their defenses enough, but the NFL defenses can disguise coverage. The Eagles even said they know the fourth down playcall as soon as Hooper went into motion. They knew his play because his love affair with Hooper motion. Also, his insistence on toss sweeps shows his college ways. Very rarely did they work to Atlanta's advantage, but he insisted on them. He kept doing it because "Hot damn, they can't stop my awesome toss plays all night!" In the NFL, they can.

As the video says, he doesn't game plan. "Why should I? I have Julio. He can do what he wants." Sark seems to think his offense will just work against anyone. Why else do you line a FB out wide against a corner on the season's decisive play? Because, as college coaches think, the offense's talent will win out. Why make them respect that side of the field when my talent on the other side will win? Sark calls plays like a college coach, and it's so hard to watch.

Tl; dr: College coaches are tainted by the college game, and when they get to the NFL, they think they will be able to dominate with no planning. This doesn't happen.

I mean...how else do you explain that shyt except for Sark having some jager at his side?
 

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I saw a great comment on the falcons reddit or somewhere talking about why Sark's such a bad coach. It's because he hasn't 100% realized he's playcalling for the NFL, not CFB.

EDIT: Here it is.



I mean...how else do you explain that shyt except for Sark having some jager at his side?
Knapp should help there.
 

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I'm not much of a TCole fan (Mainly because hes a impatient runner) I'd be fine if Falcons let him walk.

Falcons 100% need an upgrade at fullback.
 
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I'm not much of a TCole fan (Mainly because hes a impatient) I'd be fine if Falcons let him walk.

Falcons 100% need an upgrade at fullback.
Would rather keep him if the money works but I doubt it will.
 

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Sign Matt Ryan to a team friendly

draft/ sign a Russell Wilson esque Qb to put Pressure on Matt Ryan every waking second of his Falcon career

That's not going to happen. The Falcons & Matt Ryan are about to re up for at least 5 years, why would you draft a QB who isn't going to play and is gonna sign a 3-4 year deal and be eligible to leave before Matt's contract is up? Matt is the QB brehs, he's not perfect and can do some things that leave you scratching your head but for all of y'all who hate Matt so much go find me 5 QBs in the league right now you'd rather have. Y'all forget that there aren't a lot of good QB options out there
 

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That's not going to happen. The Falcons & Matt Ryan are about to re up for at least 5 years, why would you draft a QB who isn't going to play and is gonna sign a 3-4 year deal and be eligible to leave before Matt's contract is up? Matt is the QB brehs, he's not perfect and can do some things that leave you scratching your head but for all of y'all who hate Matt so much go find me 5 QBs in the league right now you'd rather have. Y'all forget that there aren't a lot of good QB options out there
If it’s an asset and it make sense at the draft position you do it......

What did NE get for Brissett........
 

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If it’s an asset and it make sense at the draft position you do it......

What did NE get for Brissett........

But that's NE, with the GOAT at QB & arguably the best organization in sports. Who do you trust to develop a QB here? The same Steve Sarkisian that most Falcons fans want to run out of town and Greg Knapp? Even if we drafted a QB do y'all really trust this current offensive staff to develop them to get a return like you're suggesting?

This team has issues but QB isn't a need/want at all
 

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But that's NE, with the GOAT at QB & arguably the best organization in sports. Who do you trust to develop a QB here? The same Steve Sarkisian that most Falcons fans want to run out of town and Greg Knapp? Even if we drafted a QB do y'all really trust this current offensive staff to develop them to get a return like you're suggesting?

This team has issues but QB isn't a need/want at all
You don’t have to develop them that much in IMO. Half of the intrigue is their potential. I think taking one should be looked at IMO.
 

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You don’t have to develop them that much in IMO. Half of the intrigue is their potential. I think taking one should be looked at IMO.

I think we're at least 2-3 years away from drafting a legitimate replacement, not a 6th or 7th round on a non athletic pocket passer like we have done recently. But TBH this discussion is being driven mostly by the fans, the Falcons aren't considering drafting a QB unless a QB they absolutely love and have rated highly on their board drops
 

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I think we're at least 2-3 years away from drafting a legitimate replacement, not a 6th or 7th round on a non athletic pocket passer like we have done recently. But TBH this discussion is being driven mostly by the fans, the Falcons aren't considering drafting a QB unless a QB they absolutely love and have rated highly on their board drops
That’s really my point. If someone you like is there and you filled other needs, why not......
 
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