Mathematics, reading skills in unprecedented decline in teenagers

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Blame hip hop culture

Man, please tell me that is a skit. Don't only did he not know the word "simultaneously", he sounded like he could barely speak coherently

 

[God Of Art]

Assign better books. A lot of these books are boring. Best book I was ever assigned to read was Sodoku and The 1000 paper cranes.

Things Fall Apart and Invisible Man.

Give them asses Game Of Thrones atleast

 

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You got to blame the parents for giving small children phones and tablets to keep them quiet instead of giving them activities that they can use their imaginations and build critical thinking. Also parents should be reading to their kids before they are old enough to start talking.

 

[Wild self]

I think the problem is the types of books that they usually assign kids to read. I always loved reading book but back in school even I didn’t enjoy the stuff that they assigned us. Analyzing books and understanding the themes isn’t that hard, but the teachers went so in depth with it that it took the fun out of things.

I always assumed that a lot of other students thought analyzing every detail was how you were supposed to read and didn’t bother reading for fun because they didn’t know that was even an option. We read a lot of classics and they thought the language was dry and boring and just looked up the Sparknotes instead of reading. If they want kids to read without struggling then maybe they could assign more modern books instead of only reading classics.

The problem is that the Scandinavian School Model aka TED Talks style of education is the ONLY quality style education going forward for humanity.

These 20th Century Prussian Empire style military teaching is outdated and makes learning as a chore or a form of disciplinary PUNISHMENT. When you make learning into a PUNISHMENT, you inspire anti intellectualism.

 

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Assign better books. A lot of these books are boring. Best book I was ever assigned to read was Sodoku and The 1000 paper cranes.

Things Fall Apart and Invisible Man.

Give them asses Game Of Thrones atleast

Many in education for decades have turned their noses up at genre fiction as it has know literary value. In doing so, I believe they have turned many young people off of reading because many of the assigned books are boring to teenagers and written in a non-engaging way. Not saying they should only give kids genre fiction books but I think they should include as a way to get kids into reading as a hobby and not as a choir

I think this speech by King is relevant to that

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Assign better books. A lot of these books are boring. Best book I was ever assigned to read was Sodoku and The 1000 paper cranes.

Things Fall Apart and Invisible Man.

Give them asses Game Of Thrones atleast

Start volunteering in a low-performing school.

Expose the students where you are volunteering to those books.

Tell me how many actually read them on your suggestion.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You got to blame the parents for giving small children phones and tablets to keep them quiet inside of giving them activities that they can use their imaginations and build critical thinking. Also parents should be reading to their kids before they are old enough to start talking.

I agree the parents are responsible, but you don't suddenly have all the parents fail at the same time unless there are larger societal issues at play. Most of these parents got addicted to the devices first, that's why the kids are addicted now. The fact that we allowed rich people to develop intentionally addictive products and then market them to the general population with zero constraints is an all-society problem, not just a parental problem.


We regulate nicotine and tobacco. We regulate gambling and porn. But we don't regulate social media and smartphones in any meaningful way at all (at least not in any way that addresses the addictive aspect), while these companies were hiring dozens of psychologists to design their products to be as addictive as possible and then fukking up society with them.

 

[Canon]

I believe it these young hoes dumb as rocks

 

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I agree the parents are responsible, but you don't suddenly have all the parents fail at the same time unless there are larger societal issues at play. Most of these parents got addicted to the devices first, that's why the kids are addicted now. The fact that we allowed rich people to develop intentionally addictive products and then market them to the general population with zero constraints is an all-society problem, not just a parental problem.


We regulate nicotine and tobacco. We regulate gambling and porn. But we don't regulate social media and smartphones in any meaningful way at all (at least not in any way that addresses the addictive aspect), while these companies were hiring dozens of psychologists to design their products to be as addictive as possible and then fukking up society with them.

Yeah, all of us are addicted to these devices to some degree. I wonder how many of those parents actually even care about their kids education.
I don't know how a parent can be okay with their kid barely being able to read at grade level.

 

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I believe it these young hoes dumb as rocks

Many posters in TLR are, too

 

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Also, they should have more non white authored books. Maybe even open the door to audiobooks



Something that Evan touches on is that it is also important for the adults to read.
I only know one other male that actually reads and he is more of a casual reader which is fine because most don't read at all.
I have no problem bringing a book to work and I actually had someone come up to me and say that it was nice to actually see a black man reading a book. That made me think that when I go into a book store I rarely ever see another black male in there.

 

[TM101]

My brain is cooked from technology. I use an OCR pen to stimulate my brain or I don't read at all.

 

[Sleepy Floyd]

The previous generations are just as retarded, but the teachers just let them pass


Look at how many adults use the wrong form of their/there/they're. How many of them can't name 3 countries or even point out Mexico on a map

 

[Dorian Breh]

The previous generations are just as retarded, but the teachers just let them pass


Look at how many adults use the wrong form of their/there/they're. How many of them can't name 3 countries or even point out Mexico on a map

Maybe kids are getting their minds twisted by tiktok

But facebook / youtube is straight up mind control for boomers / older gen x

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The previous generations are just as retarded, but the teachers just let them pass


Look at how many adults use the wrong form of their/there/they're. How many of them can't name 3 countries or even point out Mexico on a map

Nah, the difference between how kids were in even the 2000s and how they are today is profound. If you just spent 1-2 days in the classroom with them (or look objectively at those test scores) you would see it. Has nothing to do with social passing, there's way more social passing now than ever before due to Covid and that's not really here or there in causing or fixing the problem.

The fact you talk about "they're/their/there" is indicative. If that was the sort of spelling mistake I was worried about right now I'd be overjoyed. These students regularly misspell four-letter words on quizzes and tests, they can't even spell words that don't sound anything like each other. Since they don't read at all and their lives are built around either social media / texting (where spelling is irrelevant) or using google / chatgpt to give them the answers (where the spellings are all just copied), they virtually never work on their spelling at all.