Mass murders a white-male, not mental-health, issue

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The Real said:
Seems like you're starting to move to a different point now.

First, I just want to reiterate what I said before. You didn't question the disproportionately Black composition of general homicide rates. So, assuming that you're not suggesting that white homicides are underreported, then we have no reason to assume that Black crime is underreported with respect to mass murders, which are merely magnified homicides, and logistically dealt with in the same way.

No. Mass killings are a different category, not just magnified homicides. That's why I didn't question the general homicide rates.

The Real said:
Now, to answer your question, first, let's lay out more groundwork. It's obvious to anyone that violent crime in general is portrayed as a Black thing, with regard to the media, and there is a long history of stereotyping in that regard that goes beyond the admittedly disproportionate nature of crime. So, your argument is that there is media bias that specifically bucks said pattern with respect to mass murderers, and only them. I find that hard to believe, for obvious reasons, but you'll have to explain why this bias exists and what causes it.

See my above post in answer to Blackking.

The Real said:
I'm beginning to notice a general structural pattern in all of your arguments so far- you're suggesting that the bias is always against the white men in one, particular subcategory of crime, despite all evidence showing that the larger category is biased against Black people.

I'm suggesting that the bias is always against 'Black' people.

The Real said:
I personally think the answer is pretty simple- mass murder is defined at 4 bodies or up. Separate the higher from the lower numbers within the category, and you'll find that white men generally tend to occupy the higher range, while Black men do not. This is further established in the breakdown of categories like "school shootings," for example. Media attention is obviously more likely to be given to the bigger sprees. Furthermore, Black victims are not nearly as likely to show up in the media, for the same reason that Black crime is largely depicted as a universal threat, rather than as a phenomenon that also means that Blacks are the most likely victims.

That's part of what I'm saying. The media portrays these dudes as some sort of 'evil geniuses' (instead of the nut jobs they actually are), but that would give a 'Black' perpetrator too much credit.​
 

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List Of Black Serial Killers | Black Peoria. You said 5? Well, here is a link to 57 black mass murderers/serial killers in the states alone, and that is not even including niccas in the streets who have knocked down a ton of niccas and are still free.

Why are you linking to a blog that prominently endorses Mein Kampf and Rudolf Hess on its sidebar? Anyway, a large number of the people on that list killed under 4, which is the legal minimum. Several of them only killed 2... that's not a "killing spree" or "serial killing."
 

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I'm afraid I can't agree with that. According to Wikipedia, 75% of the rampage killings on US record were perpetrated by white males, along with 71% of massacres in schools, and 60% of workplace rampages, which is a disproportionate percentage for the number of white males that make up the general population when you consider that the vast majority of violent crime in general, and homicides in particular, as Domingo Halliburton pointed out, is not commited by white people. In other words, if population is not the determining factor in homicides or all other violent crimes (and it clearly isn't,) there is no reason to suddenly reach for it to explain the disparity with respect to mass murder.

As for "ethnicity," it's not a simple cause, and there's obviously nothing inherent about whiteness that predisposes one to mass murder, but the point is that there is a sociological reality that is not being addressed, often intentionally.
For some reason the mass murders/massacres scream of pent-up suburbia rage. It's a very strange phenomenon though but I think we really have to look at the environment that these killers were raised in (what area, were they wealthy etc). Environment is the biggest influence on crime.
 

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Why are you linking to a blog that prominently endorses Mein Kampf and Rudolf Hess on its sidebar? Anyway, a large number of the people on that list killed under 4, which is the legal minimum. Several of them only killed 2... that's not a "killing spree" or "serial killing."

My bad lol, but all the other sites list the same #, same names and other sites have more people
 

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White males usually have brains, so call it what you want its still a mental health issue. And I don't think as black folks we should be in favor of assigning certain crimes to certain demographics based on statistics and anecdotes. That conversation won't end well...
 

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It's actually a secret initiation into whiteness that we have. It's kind of like a "coming of age" custom but for whiteness. Once every white boy reaches the age of 16 you must got on a mass murder spree. Some get caught, other's go on to become politicians, CEO's of companies, investors and many other successful white male jobs. I did my murders low-key on that Dexter Morgan tip :demonic:
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But with you whiteboys i can never tell if youre just kidding or theres actual bodies in the river :wtb:

75% leaves 25%. 'Black' people comprise about 14% of the general population and commit about 35% of reported mass murders, so the numbers aren't an issue. The issue is why are 'Black' mass murderers under reported. I think it may be an issue of racism.

:whoo: I Agree ...but this one time this is one kind of cism im willing to let slide...Perhaps we should sweep that back under the rug
 

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List Of Black Serial Killers | Black Peoria. You said 5? Well, here is a link to 57 black mass murderers/serial killers in the states alone, and that is not even including niccas in the streets who have knocked down a ton of niccas and are still free.
This list is crazy. I'm glad you posted it cuz I was really curious about black serial killers. I wouldn't define a brother that killed his girl and one other as a serial killer... but if we are going by that type of classification..

13,000 white serial killers in US history - and most of them did more than a crime of rage... . Even though Blacks have violent crime rates that are high compared to population, most of that is socioeconomic based and not linked to psychopathy - like many of the white killers. You will really have to count all the random teenagers and low 20's n1ggas that killed n1ggas over drug related crimes to even come to a 3rd of the number of white 'serial' killers.
 

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Its about power and masculinity and the ability to see others as less than human. Anyone could fall into that mindset, but its much more common and likely in suburban White males. If Adam Lanza could have gotten the pharms he needed I'm sure he would have turned out to be a perfectly respectable st0rmfr0nt member/ Hip Hop forum troll.

All that aside, we focus way too much on outliers like Newton and not enough on the daily violence that goes on.
 

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I'll be the first to admit it sounds insane, but there is a method to the madness. Serial Killers/Mass Murderers are always reported as these highly intelligent 'loners' or someone they'd never suspect since they 'blended in so well' due to their intelligence they were able to keep that side of themselves 'hidden' for decades (BTK, Green River Killer, Ted Bundy, etc).

This is a bold-faced lie, but that's what most people believe and why most don't believe 'Black' people can commit this type of crime. We're not 'smart' enough.

Meanwhile, the FBI Crime Stats tell an entirely different tale.

The types of crime and nature of the events surrounding the killings, is why most people think blacks aren't serial killers.. but I guess you might have a point with the media.

If you hear that a man killed 45 woman in atlanta today, and ate 4 dogs. What race would you guess that was? If you hear that some n1gga AK'ed a few dudes sitting on a stoop - what race would you guess that was.

And fyi, many of the white guys were manipulated and set up by the government. And Fyi the brothers that did commit serial killing crimes- fit the same personality profile as most white serial killers.
 

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Random shootings are RARE? Do the research on how many mistaken identity killings take place in black communities, or a nicca missed his target. How about that 6 month old baby that got popped in Chicago some weeks back, or those THREE BABIES ages 5 and under that were murdered in Oakland over the last 18 months. What about that 15 year old black girl that was murdered in Chicago, weeks prior she had just sang at obamas inauguration? Or the 16 year old gang member in west oakland who couldnt find a rival gangmember to kill, so he just blew away a man walking to the store to get some cigs. Man, you can multiply the facts i just gave you over and over again. In 2005 there 8000 black homicides, 93 percent of them were black on black crime, I highly doubt a majority of them were intended targets. It's a ton, and I mean a ton of blacks In Their graves due to dumb azz niccas who can't shoot right. Or just don't care. In 1995, there were over 10,000 black homicides bro. I refuse to believe that most of those victims "had it coming"
Not saying there aren't missed bullets (i actually was hit and I'm not even a street person) .
I'm saying the intended targets are know and involved more with the black number - even if the numbers are astronomical. The random deaths are mistakes.

The white killers, go on random rampages.. they really mean to kill random people.
 
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