Marriage rates are collapsing for lower income and middle income families

[NinoBrown]

Outside of providing a stable household for children, what benefit is there to marriage? Besides shared tax benefits and insurance?

If the woman decides to give up on sex and the man doesn't? What happens?

 

[1LurkerChick9]

That's a lie

The title of this article is terrible, but the study under it seems sound

Is There a Shortage of Men Worth Marrying?



I see it in the kids I grew up with. If a dude makes decent money he's basically guaranteed to have a well paid + attractive wife. But it's a crap shoot for women. I know a lot of women making good money who are single in their mid to late 30s and starting to get desperate But broke dudes are completely out of the picture. I don't know what the answer is but I'm not sure it's settling. Would you?

The title was definitely terrible ,but ultimately a good read. Copy and pasted :

• Older women have an even smaller dating pool of economically desirable men than younger women, who would have a slightly easier time finding a suitable partner
• Well-educated women face more of a shortage of economically desirable men than lesser educated women
• Minority women, particularly Black women, have a heightened unlikelihood of finding a partner who is economically desirable.
• In general, it's harder to find an economically desirable man in one's own close geographic area than in the broader, nationwide comparison.

 

[How Sway?]

finances is a crutch for falling marriage rates

the truth is trust and loyalty is at an all time low

being broke has some effect, im sure, but most people are just scared of being played when you get down to the root of it

Thisss x 2

Case in point:
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/num...ing-sex-with-their-work-husband.765215/page-6

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

The title was definitely terrible ,but ultimately a good read. Copy and pasted :

• Older women have an even smaller dating pool of economically desirable men than younger women, who would have a slightly easier time finding a suitable partner
• Well-educated women face more of a shortage of economically desirable men than lesser educated women
• Minority women, particularly Black women, have a heightened unlikelihood of finding a partner who is economically desirable.
• In general, it's harder to find an economically desirable man in one's own close geographic area than in the broader, nationwide comparison.

So it's all men's fault again.

 

[EndDomination]

American society for folk thinking the type of job they have and how much money they make is attached to their self worth and self esteem... You hate to see it

Capitalism.

 

[Mensch Fontana]

#GMBB

 

[1LurkerChick9]

So it's all men's fault again.

I blame the economy

 

[ogc163]

I wonder what the geographical breakdown would look like. NYC/SF/LA upper income people have a very different set of cultural incentives than their midwestern/southern counterparts.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

this is why I hate when people use Black marriage stats to drive home a narrative they want to run with most of their talking points is to either ridicule, attack, or belittle other black people(and its usually to attack Black men).
Not realizing that black people are making families, its just not the traditional way of making it go thru marriage.

BM & BD aren't making families. It's making broken families.

 

[NinoBrown]

The title was definitely terrible ,but ultimately a good read. Copy and pasted :

• Older women have an even smaller dating pool of economically desirable men than younger women, who would have a slightly easier time finding a suitable partner
• Well-educated women face more of a shortage of economically desirable men than lesser educated women
• Minority women, particularly Black women, have a heightened unlikelihood of finding a partner who is economically desirable.
• In general, it's harder to find an economically desirable man in one's own close geographic area than in the broader, nationwide comparison.

Women need to stop being picky, the Idris Elba/Michael B. Jordan 6 cert breh should have been snagged by women while in their 20s....you can have the career or the man, but not both....

By the time women hit 35, they have Andre from the dealership who makes 50k, but he doesn't have a degree or may never see six figures...he isn't "good enough" for her and can't stunt on her other cac friends who are married....

She dies alone or ends up with a flabby cac who is 20 years her senior....

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

BM & BD aren't making families. It's making broken families.

Sadly, I have to agree.

 

[Fillerguy]

Incentive for men to date/marry is a request that falls willfully deaf ears because then everybody continues asking "why aren't people getting married anymore" when the reasons being cited have been more than apparent in rhetoric and factual research.

I know dating and marriage isn't a cakewalk for women regarding safety, but they do get the registries designed in their favor, ceremonies, tradition of not having to pay, apps designed around their dating interests, court leverage, free drinks after 11 in clubs on singles night, you name it, various things to at least pique their interests.

Men ask for dating/marriage incentive and you get:
"immature" "manchild" "what do you mean incentive?" "you're suppose to want to marry" "if you don't want to get married just say it" "you're clearly not ready to be married"
I'm like

I just hit 30 and everybody i know hitting me with this bs. That and having children. My mom spent 15 not wanting me to have sex now she wants to be a grandmother. she even tried to set me up with some hoodrat. We ran from that life 20 years ago

 

[UpAndComing]

Honestly a lot of women aren't going to tell you a lot of things about their past. So even though you might think you know, you don't know what she has done in her past. The only way you can tell if a woman is ready is by the day to day, week to week, year to year, time that you spend with her and see what her character is all about. If you're trying to rush it, you're going to mess up.


Again, we're all sinners. So saying that you're not going to marry another person because they had sin in their past doesn't make sense.

If they clearly don't care about what they did in the past and don't regret it, then that's a person you shouldn't be trying to hang around anyway.

That's a selfish way of thinking breh.

The most important part of the relationship is the spiritual part.
If you're worried about losing what you have to the woman YOU chose to marry then you weren't listening to the Lord.




You're going to make it more difficult on yourself if you don't come to terms with you have to listen to God and go the way that He says go.....Nobody is guaranteed that the person they marry is going to be perfect and that relationship won't end at some point.
Your relationship with God is more important. Otherwise, you're more than likely going to go from relationship to relationship trying to find something you only find in God. Getting deeper and deeper in debt and depression.

There's good women out there breh. You're acting like all women do is try and find a way to bankrupt a breh.

Also, you're not going to take any of that stuff with you when you die. You could die the day after you get married. What then? Your treasure is not on Earth.

You can do what you want. You don't have to get married. In fact, Paul said it's better not to get married if you can live that type of life without sin and being devoted to God's will.

Honestly, most people can't live that life. The Catholic Church shows you that. They are losing membership because they can't find men that want to be priests and celibate for life.

This has gotta be @Typical Simp 's alternative account

 

[DrBanneker]

That's a lie

The title of this article is terrible, but the study under it seems sound

Is There a Shortage of Men Worth Marrying?



I see it in the kids I grew up with. If a dude makes decent money he's basically guaranteed to have a well paid + attractive wife. But it's a crap shoot for women. I know a lot of women making good money who are single in their mid to late 30s and starting to get desperate But broke dudes are completely out of the picture. I don't know what the answer is but I'm not sure it's settling. Would you?

I mostly agree, but I think our generation was a bit different. A lot of younger professional dudes I know are having trouble finding chicks and they aren't scumbags. In the old days being a good dude and having a good job was a power up in the dating game. It still is to an extent but women seem a lot more picky.

 

[DrBanneker]

The title was definitely terrible ,but ultimately a good read. Copy and pasted :

• Older women have an even smaller dating pool of economically desirable men than younger women, who would have a slightly easier time finding a suitable partner
• Well-educated women face more of a shortage of economically desirable men than lesser educated women
• Minority women, particularly Black women, have a heightened unlikelihood of finding a partner who is economically desirable.
• In general, it's harder to find an economically desirable man in one's own close geographic area than in the broader, nationwide comparison.

Just to throw it out there I have wondered if Black people, especially on the higher education and income end, would benefit from formal matchmaking like they did when I lived in Asia. Not online dating but professional (mostly women) that have dossiers and profiles of paying customers that they match up based on compatibility.